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  • #17,801
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:38am Dec 17, 2015 3:38am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Do you have any open positions now? You bullish still on this?
I'm waiting for the US and the SP500 pull back from 2 077 80 85, whenever the Fed and on rolling contracts eats the other way now the UP and DOWN

see parallels with the previous rollover and the Fed euphoria followed by a rebound
  • #17,802
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:42am Dec 17, 2015 3:42am
EU stimulus monetary funds buying buying today. This should go pat 10800 or where ever they want options to close at this week.
  • #17,803
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:43am Dec 17, 2015 3:43am
Quoting littspaniard
morning, shorts {image}
sl hit and reenter shorts
The only constant is change
  • #17,804
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:43am Dec 17, 2015 3:43am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} I'm waiting for the US and the SP500 pull back from 2 077 80 85, whenever the Fed and on rolling contracts eats the other way now the UP and DOWN see parallels with the previous rollover and the Fed euphoria followed by a rebound
Options expire tomorrow for this last quarter of the year.
  • #17,805
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:44am Dec 17, 2015 3:44am
gap still not closed on the spot market
  • #17,806
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:46am Dec 17, 2015 3:46am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} I'm waiting for the US and the SP500 pull back from 2 077 80 85, whenever the Fed and on rolling contracts eats the other way now the UP and DOWN see parallels with the previous rollover and the Fed euphoria followed by a rebound
You are confusing me mixed statements. Have you been talking to Yellen or Bernanke recently?
  • #17,807
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:48am Dec 17, 2015 3:48am
Quoting Dano12
gap still not closed on the spot market
What spot? Options expire tomorrow... When you see gains like you today there is an invisible hand involved milking it up. Hard to predict how far up they milk it before they allow it to drop. Those government funds are endless.
  • #17,808
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:52am Dec 17, 2015 3:52am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} What spot? Options expire tomorrow... When you see gains like you today there is an invisible hand involved milking it up. Hard to predict how far up they milk it before they allow it to drop. Those government funds are endless.

cash market

see analogies on the SP500, what did the Fed and the rolling of contracts was the day - two days down,
the reaction is always in the second or third day
  • #17,809
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:54am Dec 17, 2015 3:54am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} What spot? Options expire tomorrow... When you see gains like you today there is an invisible hand involved milking it up. Hard to predict how far up they milk it before they allow it to drop. Those government funds are endless.
agree Stylinex, i have seen before how due their ( or our ?) greed they milking up until the last moment.
The only constant is change
  • #17,810
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:56am Dec 17, 2015 3:56am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} cash market see analogies on the SP500, what did the Fed and the rolling of contracts was the day - two days down, the reaction is always in the second or third day
The 3rd day would be next Monday when the new options contract opens up. For now the reaction is quite positive which is bullish. Looking at 10800 in a few minutes. This is about a rigged as it gets today
  • #17,811
  • Dec 17, 2015 3:57am Dec 17, 2015 3:57am
Quoting littspaniard
{quote} sl hit and reenter shorts
two loser trades -100-113
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The only constant is change
  • #17,812
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:00am Dec 17, 2015 4:00am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} The 3rd day would be next Monday when the new options contract opens up. For now the reaction is quite positive which is bullish. Looking at 10800 in a few minutes. This is about a rigged as it gets today
yep 11 800 11 900 / sp500 2080 85
  • #17,813
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:00am Dec 17, 2015 4:00am
Quoting littspaniard
{quote} agree Stylinex, i have seen before how due their ( or our ?) greed they milking up until the last moment.
Them green graphs today went up like steps of someone climbing a ladder. You got the Invisible hand at the top of the ladder pulling the guy up today lol.. Either this guy makes it to the top or drops from the top of the ladder by tomorrow.
Here comes 10800.. 3...2...1..
  • #17,814
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:02am Dec 17, 2015 4:02am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} yep 11 800 11 900 / sp500 2080 85
I am trying to figure this one out. Futures are up .31% in America now and the DAX is up over 3% which is roughly 10x the movement.
  • #17,815
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:10am Dec 17, 2015 4:10am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Them green graphs today went up like steps of someone climbing a ladder. You got the Invisible hand at the top of the ladder pulling the guy up today lol.. Either this guy makes it to the top or drops from the top of the ladder by tomorrow. Here comes 10800.. 3...2...1..
agree exp. impulse before falling down, will it be today or tomorrow who knows we'll have to wait a little and see, interesting.
I see possible 10870 top for tomorrow or next week as last one this year, highly unlikely in unwinding we'll see more than that for a while.

almost out @10800, bearly missed it dough,..
after that putting on my shorts
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #17,816
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:19am Dec 17, 2015 4:19am
Quoting Pattrader
{quote} agree exp. impulse before falling down, will it be today or tomorrow who knows we'll have to wait a little and see, interesting. I see possible 10870 top for tomorrow or next week as last one this year, highly unlikely in unwinding we'll see more than that for a while. almost out @10800, bearly missed it dough,.. after that putting on my shorts
Doubt it will fall from here. Most likely was milked all the way up here today to close options contracts above 10800 for 4th quarter ending of 2015. Will have to sit this out until next week and see where things go with new contracts
  • #17,817
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:30am Dec 17, 2015 4:30am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Doubt it will fall from here. Most likely was milked all the way up here today to close options contracts above 10800 for 4th quarter ending of 2015. Will have to sit this out until next week and see where things go with new contracts
looking at the stretch of daily range over 270p and the timing before noon I wonder if there is much left for today,
my 2 cents guess is that after NY open we might see more of a picture unfolding.
in the meantime getting very near to my exit, only by 2 pips left,..
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #17,818
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:33am Dec 17, 2015 4:33am
I think it might be short time,
short at 10786
pending short at 10791

Sl at 10801
  • #17,819
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:38am Dec 17, 2015 4:38am
Quoting Ziolo
I think it might be short time, short at 10786 pending short at 10791 Sl at 10801
If the DOW spikes up 50 points from here we could easily see the DAX run to 10900
  • #17,820
  • Dec 17, 2015 4:55am Dec 17, 2015 4:55am
First target 10800 reached, next final target for long 10938...Dax is working like clockwork this month...
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