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  • #12,781
  • Nov 29, 2015 12:49am Nov 29, 2015 12:49am
Quoting Proximius
{quote} I never criticised(not deserved) any comments... To be honest,the only useful (FOR ME) is Brk_pin. You need a Step 1, Step 2 process?Believe me or not but it is different for each trader and ITS ALL ON FF.YES ON DIFFERENT FORUMS,THREADS,PAGES...BUT WHO SAID YOU THAT THIS PORSUIT WILL BE FAST AND EASY?No one here owes anyone anything. They are here at their own discretion,so don't wait for somebody to tell you Step 1, Step 2 of succes. Instead of hating Sam try to understand his posts and learn something useful for yorself ,why you dont want...
Absolutely correct. We must thank to seller9 for providing such a great trade automating tool.
  • #12,782
  • Nov 29, 2015 1:54am Nov 29, 2015 1:54am
Quoting brucech
PayItForward, What your requesting might get more response if you would lead out by real example yourself. Then maybe others seeing your examples would knowledgably contribute. This is not to offend. Bruce
Hi
Thanks for your comments ...

Yes, agreed ...
Tried that back in Sept with the Google Group as acknowledged by Seller9 in his post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post8475536
but unfortunately it fell over due to lack of ongoing participation so now trying a different approach as I believe having a step 1, step 2 process will be beneficial to all ...

What is your/any opinion on this spreadsheet ... do you think it or a variation would be useful ... (it is a rough variation on what I privately use to track tests)

Cheers
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  • #12,783
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:12am Nov 29, 2015 7:12am
Quoting Proximius
{quote} ...No one here owes anyone anything. ...
I do think, maybe for your comments I could be wrong, that I do owe someone something.
I owe Seller9 for his work , patience and dedication.
I owe a lot to all those who share their good or bad discoveries.
On the bad too, because I save test time , and time is money.
Could be that when someone discovers the way to be profitable, he or she does not make a manual or guide step 1, step 2, etc .... for the rest of us.
But.... I think and I hope, at least, he or she gives us guidelines to find ourselves the path.
Retain this forum that has created by Seller9 whom I thank , as a place to share and grow in knowledge somehow all .
  • #12,784
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:39am Nov 29, 2015 7:39am
Quoting Joe90
{quote} I do think, maybe for your comments I could be wrong, that I do owe someone something. I owe Seller9 for his work , patience and dedication. I owe a lot to all those who share their good or bad discoveries. On the bad too, because I save test time , and time is money. Could be that when someone discovers the way to be profitable, he or she does not make a manual or guide step 1, step 2, etc .... for the rest of us. But.... I think and I hope, at least, he or she gives us guidelines to find ourselves the path. Retain this forum that has created...
A VERY NICE REMARK. WELL SAID.
Patience, Persistence and discipline = Holy Grail.
FUNDED FEEDER All Time Profit: $104
  • #12,785
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:50am Nov 29, 2015 7:50am
Quoting Murysco
{quote} A VERY NICE REMARK. WELL SAID.
Beside the drama that start about this, I offer some real examples, and arguments of trades that I took on real accounts with your method, and why I found the system not to be profitable.

Before giving dreams to other peoples you should argument your system. Post some example of trades , hours of trading and how you chose the pairs vs other pairs.
Or just post in the end of your post , this is an untested system, with no real/demo results bla bla.

With all the respect I am open for any idea and I am going to test all my ideas and other ideas because I love experience new trading ideas!


Green pips to all!
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
  • #12,786
  • Nov 29, 2015 8:07am Nov 29, 2015 8:07am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} I did the same with Husky77 and checked it regularly, went into nice profit and then turned around for final loss at the 24 hour point.
If it was ''nice profit'' as you said ... what made you to not stop take the profit and close everything then wait for next day?
and i ask this question for all strategies you guys use with Casino.everyone knows that market at some point will turn against you even if you have perfect entries and a lot of profit. the only problem is not the entry you take and is in fact the exit point.if you fail to exit then your profitable trades will be a loss.
I bet many strategies here from many guys at some point gave ''nice profit'' but most of them turned into loss. ask yourself why.
Casino is a tool it can give you good entries and can do a lot of work for you ,but educate yourself to exit even before ''nice profit''.will be better.
as a simple example : if you have 10 orders 0.01 and profit is 10$ why to not exit and close everything for that day? (calculate % and ignore the real money for this)
can say greedy,hope for more? etc.market doesnt give a shit about your hope and will take everything from you in a second if you allow that.
I use this and also some other sistems but also i do manual trading all combined.and results are decent because i still educate myself to STOP when decent show up.
and again i say Dont risk today more than you won yesterday ,even less if you can.accept the loss and move forward.dont get angry on market when you lose she doesnt care and if you want revenge you will be always a loser against the market.
Cheers to all!
Take what you can, give nothing back
  • #12,787
  • Nov 29, 2015 8:16am Nov 29, 2015 8:16am
great advice Husky.

Quoting Husky77
{quote} If it was ''nice profit'' as you said ... what made you to not stop take the profit and close everything then wait for next day? and i ask this question for all strategies you guys use with Casino.everyone knows that market at some point will turn against you even if you have perfect entries and a lot of profit. the only problem is not the entry you take and is in fact the exit point.if you fail to exit then your profitable trades will be a loss. I bet many strategies here from many guys at some point gave ''nice profit'' but most of them...
  • #12,788
  • Nov 29, 2015 9:12am Nov 29, 2015 9:12am
Quoting Husky77
{quote} If it was ''nice profit'' as you said ... what made you to not stop take the profit and close everything then wait for next day?
Hi Husky77

I let it run because that was my plan - to run it for 24 hours.
I understand that I could have closed for a nice profit but I wanted to know whether the nice profit was going to be even better and then only way to know that was to let it run. It was simply a test. Now I know that under those conditions that I need to watch it more closely.
There was nothing to say that had I let it run for the 24 hours that it would not have been a brilliant profit.
Now that the test is complete I have a baseline to work from for future trades and know like you that it is best to watch it close and then reopen at some point.
Your system works well and I thankyou.
Hope this explains it for you.

Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #12,789
  • Nov 29, 2015 9:15am Nov 29, 2015 9:15am
Quoting Joe90
{quote} I do think, maybe for your comments I could be wrong, that I do owe someone something.
Totally agree - I believe that 1st we all owe Seller9 then we owe it to each other to share our success and our failures - in my experience that is the way a 'team' moves forward to the end goal.
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #12,790
  • Nov 29, 2015 9:16am Nov 29, 2015 9:16am
Quoting Murysco
{quote} A VERY NICE REMARK. WELL SAID.
Could not agree more and should be more of it ...
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #12,791
  • Nov 29, 2015 11:14am Nov 29, 2015 11:14am
"An investor is a trader who missed the exit"

Don't give back your profit by getting greedy.


  • #12,792
  • Nov 29, 2015 12:45pm Nov 29, 2015 12:45pm
Quoting seller9
"An investor is a trader who missed the exit" Don't give back your profit by getting greedy.

Haha, well said Seller9!

I was wondering If you will release the meanrenko charts you talked about a few weeks ago.

Thanks in advance for awnsering
  • #12,793
  • Nov 29, 2015 1:14pm Nov 29, 2015 1:14pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Hi Proximius, Seller9 and anyone wanting success ... NOTICE ** NO OFFENCE INTENDED OR IMPLIED ** - if you feel offended please re-read. There is no blah blah blah here ---- however please excuse the length of this ... First Proximius - "I never criticised(not deserved) any comments..." - Never said you did - this is a forum for discussion and if that discussion and the people here cannot accept positive and negative it will never progress - even Seller9 asks for positive and negative. You made the comment "...and they keep looking to wrong...
** NO OFFENCE INTENDED OR IMPLIED **
Calm down,mate.Try do not take it personally and read that post again.English is not my mother language,so maybe you misunderstood that post...Sorry for that.
A lot members here trying to understand how EA works,instead of trying to understand how and why market moves.
I made the comment "...and they keep looking to wrong direction."-ok,you want to know why?becouse I DON'T SEE ANY GOOD RESULTS FROM THIS CCI'S,TRND'S,HEIKEN ASHI'S,WHATEVER.THEY DON'T WORK!BUT PEOPLE STILL DREAMING AND THINKING THAT THEY ONLY NEED TO FIND RIGHT SETTINGS FOR THEM...
Seller gave us CASINO and Trndbrk_pin.This tandem working,if you know what are you doing.
If my words have no weight for you-ask Seller,Smknyc,Shum and some others what they think about that.
WITH ALL RESPECT TO ALL MEMBERS.
Prox.

Quoting Husky77
{quote} If it was ''nice profit'' as you said ... what made you to not stop take the profit and close everything then wait for next day? and i ask this question for all strategies you guys use with Casino.everyone knows that market at some point will turn against you even if you have perfect entries and a lot of profit. the only problem is not the entry you take and is in fact the exit point.if you fail to exit then your profitable trades will be a loss. I bet many strategies here from many guys at some point gave ''nice profit'' but most of them...
Very good attitude
  • #12,794
  • Nov 29, 2015 1:18pm Nov 29, 2015 1:18pm
Quoting 1asbak1
{quote} Haha, well said Seller9! I was wondering If you will release the meanrenko charts you talked about a few weeks ago. Thanks in advance for awnsering
I did not finish those tests so nothing is available for them as I am presently testing on just PA charts using just the Casino filters.

Renko is nice for manual trading as the charts are cleaner, but most of the indies still look at the PA, they just have their
time window compressed.
  • #12,795
  • Nov 29, 2015 1:30pm Nov 29, 2015 1:30pm
Indicators all lag so are always late to the party.
The TRND Brk works great on news events and also when you can find a chart with the proper setup to use it.
I will be testing this week with filters in Casino only, no Plugins.
I will be testing some news events with the TRND Brk if I see one that looks good.
Too many traders are looking for a quick get rich EA, you must take your time and learn the ropes and the light will eventually come on for you.
Above all, KIS.
The time to trade is also very important.
Casino is just another tool to use to help you with your trading plan, it is not a trading plan, find the plan that works for you and stick with it.

Sam, if you are still watching, throw some words of wisdom this way to help those still looking for the Holy Grail.

  • #12,796
  • Nov 29, 2015 2:57pm Nov 29, 2015 2:57pm
Quoting seller9
Indicators all lag so are always late to the party. The TRND Brk works great on news events and also when you can find a chart with the proper setup to use it. I will be testing this week with filters in Casino only, no Plugins. I will be testing some news events with the TRND Brk if I see one that looks good. Too many traders are looking for a quick get rich EA, you must take your time and learn the ropes and the light will eventually come on for you. Above all, KIS. The time to trade is also very important. Casino is just another tool to use to...

It's what I am saying in the post , from what I saw during real test. The best way to use a trend BRK it's with news, or even before news and get few pips, not to look for that big movement , because you don't have a magic ball to see only lots of pips movements, and if you get greedy the market turn against you.

Trading during news it's an old concept , used even my big players that work for lot of time. What doesn't work is that a lot of peoples want to get rich by the first news, price movement.

Green pips to all!
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
  • #12,797
  • Nov 29, 2015 3:37pm Nov 29, 2015 3:37pm
Quick question for anybody...
I was re-watching the video Casino Part 4 as a refresher and I notice that towards the end when explaining how the Magic 8 ball works there were no filter selected but it was still giving buy or sell signals. I thought the Magic 8 ball was use to select the best signal of the group of pairs selected. If there are no filters selected there shouldn't be any signal given right? Or am I misinterpreting how the Magic 8 ball works? If that is the case can somebody explain to me once more how it works?
  • #12,798
  • Edited 5:44pm Nov 29, 2015 4:26pm | Edited 5:44pm
Quoting Proximius
{quote} ** NO OFFENCE INTENDED OR IMPLIED **
Suggestion ... for understanding, re-read my posts.

As far as your recent posts are concerned I find them confusing and contradictory, why?

You say: "A lot members here trying to understand how EA works,instead of trying to understand how and why market moves." - have not read that anywhere.
You say: they keep looking to wrong direction - still waiting for your direction

You say: I DON'T SEE ANY GOOD RESULTS and
You say: Seller gave us CASINO and Trndbrk_pin.This tandem working,if you know what are you doing.
Contradictory statement

In my opinion, and based on my experience in the Commodities market, if you don't try to understand what drives the market then no matter how good a tool/indicator/EA you will never ever be successful due to personal skill only luck.

Because I put a value on my time I will in future pass on your posts for those reasons.

All the best for the future ...

Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #12,799
  • Nov 29, 2015 4:36pm Nov 29, 2015 4:36pm
Quoting seller9
"An investor is a trader who missed the exit" Don't give back your profit by getting greedy.
Hi

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...78#post8500278

The most successful trader ever says "Never trade for real without an exit".

Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #12,800
  • Nov 29, 2015 5:06pm Nov 29, 2015 5:06pm
Quoting seller9
Sam, if you are still watching, throw some words of wisdom this way to help those still looking for the Holy Grail.
Don't shoot the messenger.

Are you sure you want Sam to provide words or wisdom?

Here are just two of his quotes: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...93#post8517193

"Secondly no I do not use seller indicators or his dashboard."

and his website at: http://www.forexfactory.com/smknyc

smarturl.it/SMKNYC

In my opinion neither are constructive ...

Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
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