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  • #12,261
  • Nov 11, 2015 11:55am Nov 11, 2015 11:55am
Quoting foxterbotell
hello dancers long time since I had commented in this thread though I follow closely ,choros systems form a small part of my strategies , happy trading everyone my gu trade with choros using the volume futures market,, {image}
Oh that´s intresting ,
I plan the next year with a broker who has futures as well ..
wich instruments are you trading with the Choros style in futures ??
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,262
  • Nov 11, 2015 12:05pm Nov 11, 2015 12:05pm
SP500 personally use choros when I have a definite pattern to the rejection of emas
  • #12,263
  • Nov 11, 2015 12:21pm Nov 11, 2015 12:21pm
Quoting foxterbotell
SP500 personally use choros when I have a definite pattern to the rejection of emas
Oh yea, I can imagine the indices work fine .
I used the Dax ( CFD based ) from time to time and it was a good fight for me .
But my brokes isn t made for CFDs .. the spread is too large for the CFDs , so I skipped often .


Any other instruments ??
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,264
  • Nov 11, 2015 12:32pm Nov 11, 2015 12:32pm
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8586706] {quote} Oh sí, no puedo imaginar los índices funcionan bien. He utilizado el Dax (CFD basado) de vez en vez y fue una buena pelea para mí. Pero mis brokes ISN t hacen para CFDs .. la propagación es demasiado grande para los CFDs, así que a menudo omiten. Cualesquiera otros instrumentos ?? [/ quote]

personally only use the euro, the pound and the SP500 is enough for me, indexes are more volatile than currencies have to be very careful ....
the spread of cfd broker and depends on the strategies you use,, if you want to make trades in indices with estragegias of profit taking scalping is best done on a futures broker
  • #12,265
  • Nov 11, 2015 12:46pm Nov 11, 2015 12:46pm
Quoting foxterbotell
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8586706] {quote} Oh s, no puedo imaginar los ndices funcionan bien. He utilizado el Dax (CFD basado) de vez en vez y fue una buena pelea para m. Pero mis brokes ISN t hacen para CFDs .. la propagacin es demasiado grande para los CFDs, as que a menudo omiten. Cualesquiera otros instrumentos ?? [/ quote] personally only use the euro, the pound and the SP500 is enough for me, indexes are more volatile than currencies have to be very careful .... the spread of cfd broker and depends on the strategies you use,, if you want to make...
Thanks for quick response !
In fact I dont want to switch that much in my trading style .. it works okay.. and thats fine all in all .
But as you know .. sometimes my " monitored" instruments / pairs are too flat , or show a bad signal or whatever..
that way I just wanted to know about the futures ..from someone , who trades them with this Choros/ Dance style ..
You re the first , who posts it in the thread , so I ask ;-)
Not sure if i trade them .. earliest after months of observing !! ..

The risk would be too high for the next months .

Step by step my account grows and I plan more to have less risk and a more beautiful courve the next year..
Courvefitting .. thats more my target for next year.
But thanks again for your answer.
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,266
  • Nov 11, 2015 1:13pm Nov 11, 2015 1:13pm
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8586745] {quote} Gracias por la respuesta rápida! De hecho, yo no quiero cambiar mucho en mi estilo de negociación .. funciona bien .. y eso es bien todo en todos. Pero como ustedes saben .. a veces mi "monitoreados" instrumentos / pares son demasiado plana, o mostrar una señal de mal o lo que sea de esa manera .. Sólo quería saber sobre los futuros ..de alguien, que los negocia con este Choros / Danza estilo .. Tú eres la primera, que se publica en el hilo, así que pide ;-) No estoy seguro si yo les cambiaría .. más temprana después de meses de observación !! .. El riesgo sería demasiado alto para los próximos meses. Paso a paso mi cuenta crece y planeo más para tener menos riesgo y más hermosa courve el próximo año .. Courvefitting .. eso es más que mi objetivo para el próximo año. Pero gracias de nuevo por su respuesta. Guido [/ quote]
ok I understand,
my execution platform is forex and cfd, only use futures to display the volume, I'll be posting more often signas of choros, greetings and happy trading
  • #12,267
  • Nov 12, 2015 6:02am Nov 12, 2015 6:02am
Hi everyone. Here are four trades from EU and EJ (two trades taken today and two yesterday), all of them were taken at M15 10EMA.

Yesterday I took two trades on EU&EJ, both were too late for my taste (I prefer to take them as close to the MA as possible), but I liked the forming pinbars on M15 and took my chances. The main mistake on both trades was my stubbornness - even though I saw the price going against me on the lower TFs, I still waited for it to turn, instead of closing them both asap (first at +7-10p, then BE or at least at a decreased SL). So got stopped on both of them at a full SL.
Sometimes there are days like this, when I'm trying to dictate my own rules to the market and usually get burnt. I wonder, if I ever learn this lesson so well, that I'll stop making the same mistakes again and again, and will always be able to listen to the market instead of some inner voices in my head

Today there were two very nice reactions on EU&EJ M15 10EMAs confluenced with M5 35/50 and DP, and RN on EJ. Took them after the price bounced on M5 35/50; at first I aimed for DS1, but later, after a couple of bounces on M1, I decreased the TP and exited at +17 and 21p respectively.
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  • #12,268
  • Nov 12, 2015 10:05am Nov 12, 2015 10:05am
hello dancers, beautifull trade gu 4h emas choros after yellen speaks
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  • #12,269
  • Nov 12, 2015 11:05am Nov 12, 2015 11:05am
Quoting foxterbotell
hello dancers, beautifull trade gu 4h emas choros after yellen speaks {image}
This is mine from H1 35/50 (long).

foxterbotell, I am assuming you got short from the H4 50 which is the trade I was telling you about yesterday night. Could you explain your trades/charts a little more? Are the green arrows your entry/exit?
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  • #12,270
  • Nov 12, 2015 11:41am Nov 12, 2015 11:41am
[quote = kostas1; 8588910] {quote} Esto es mío desde H1 35/50 (largo). foxterbotell, estoy asumiendo que tienes corta de la H4 50 que es el comercio que te hablé ayer noche. ¿Podría explicar sus operaciones / gráficos un poco más? ¿Son las flechas verdes su entrada / salida? {image} [/ quote]

hello kostas it is good to see you here, I am sending you the picture with detailed explanation, greetings and happy trading hope to see you more often around here publishing
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  • #12,271
  • Nov 12, 2015 12:09pm Nov 12, 2015 12:09pm
Hey fox !

"Asymetry with the high volumen "

Yeah , exactly.. volume is strong green then but the candles are red and go down ..
I saw this on other charts.. thats why Im not keen with the volume stuff..
How did you filter it out ?? What exactly was the reason to view the volume when you trade " against " it ??

Dont get me wrong.. the trade looks very very nice.great by choros rules . but I don t understand the volume in it ..

Thaks Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,272
  • Nov 12, 2015 3:41pm Nov 12, 2015 3:41pm
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8589052] Hey zorro! "Asimetría con el alto volumen" Sí, exactamente .. volumen es de color verde fuerte entonces, pero las velas son de color rojo y baja .. Vi esto en otros apartados .. es por eso no estoy interesado con las cosas volumen .. ¿Cómo se filtran fuera ?? ¿Cuál era exactamente la razón para ver el volumen cuando el comercio "contra" él ?? No me malinterpreten .. el comercio se ve muy muy nice.great por reglas choros. pero yo no entiendo el volumen en ella .. Thaks Guido [/ quote]

hello sesamstrase I understand your point, but not all the green volumen is strong buyer and not all red volumen is strong seller, In the operation of that gu I had made, it was a climate volume seller ,volume about climate there is much free information on the Internet here I am sending pictures with asymmetries operations, this can be a complement to choros system, when we are in areas of decision / emas
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  • #12,273
  • Nov 13, 2015 3:53am Nov 13, 2015 3:53am
Quoting foxterbotell
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8589052] Hey zorro! "Asimetra con el alto volumen" S, exactamente .. volumen es de color verde fuerte entonces, pero las velas son de color rojo y baja .. Vi esto en otros apartados .. es por eso no estoy interesado con las cosas volumen .. Cmo se filtran fuera ?? Cul era exactamente la razn para ver el volumen cuando el comercio "contra" l ?? No me malinterpreten .. el comercio se ve muy muy nice.great por reglas choros. pero yo no entiendo el volumen en ella .. Thaks Guido [/ quote] hello sesamstrase I understand your point,...

Good moning fox !
Now I got you ..
The volume isn t stable working in the direction , what is shown ..

If I understand you cerrectly , you mean " someone" pushed the price to the movin average level , sold the position there , and market formed a pin bar..
sounds logic..
Is that visible in the orderbook while trading.. I mean exactly a big position sold in this area in the future contracts ?

Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,274
  • Nov 13, 2015 5:05am Nov 13, 2015 5:05am
Guys,

I think Volume study are discussed on different threads/forum
can you just keep original CHOROS concept.
Otherwise this thread will be filled with images and strategies that not follow CHOROS.(as it happened on many other threads)

thanks
  • #12,275
  • Nov 13, 2015 5:29am Nov 13, 2015 5:29am
Quoting adriann
Guys, I think Volume study are discussed on different threads/forum can you just keep original CHOROS concept. Otherwise this thread will be filled with images and strategies that not follow CHOROS.(as it happened on many other threads) thanks
Hey Adriann, welcome to this thread .
Feel free to fill it with your experience and share your knowledge and discuss choros releated questions ;-)
thanks .
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,276
  • Nov 13, 2015 5:45am Nov 13, 2015 5:45am
Sesamstrasse good morning , because if absolutely correct, that esta thread is only choros , only asked me about my positions volume and clarify the doubts
  • #12,277
  • Nov 13, 2015 8:05am Nov 13, 2015 8:05am
Quoting Sesamstrasse
{quote} Hey Adriann, welcome to this thread . Feel free to fill it with your experience and share your knowledge and discuss choros releated questions ;-) thanks . Guido

i trading different style and also different market so my exp have no point here.
but i always like observe this thread how peoples trade CHOROS.
  • #12,278
  • Nov 13, 2015 12:49pm Nov 13, 2015 12:49pm
hello dancer here is my operation gu 1h 35/50 , decided to leave at that point for the time hour and because the price was in range and there was no volume
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  • #12,279
  • Edited 5:07pm Nov 13, 2015 4:39pm | Edited 5:07pm
Quoting adriann
{quote} i trading different style and also different market so my exp have no point here. but i always like observe this thread how peoples trade CHOROS.
aah .. I understand. youre more the " watcher " :nerd:

As long as we discuss Dancing related questions , please bring also your contributions to this thread..
But I won t let you disturb me while asking my questions, dude!

Feel free to intigrate yourself , be a part of this thread and help the others ..
I would apreciate it!
Guido

Quoting foxterbotell
Sesamstrasse good morning , because if absolutely correct, that esta thread is only choros , only asked me about my positions volume and clarify the doubts
Hey fox ,
could you please try to answer my question , may be you overread it :


" If I understand you cerrectly , you mean " someone" pushed the price to the movin average level , sold the position there , and market formed a pin bar..
sounds logic..

Is that visible in the orderbook while trading.. I mean exactly a big position sold in this area in the future( based instrument ) contracts ?"
It must be a reason to form a pinbar ..

Specially the information about the orderbook could be very intresting..

Have a nice evening..
and thx for answering
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #12,280
  • Nov 13, 2015 5:46pm Nov 13, 2015 5:46pm
[quote = Sesamstrasse; 8591553] {quote} aah .. Entiendo. youre más el "vigilante" :nerd:Mientras discutimos Dancing preguntas relacionadas, por favor traiga también sus contribuciones a este hilo .. Pero gané t dejar que me moleste mientras pedía a mis preguntas, amigo! No dude en intigrate ti mismo, ser parte de este tema y ayudar a los demás .. Me apreciar que! Guido {quote} Hey zorro, ¿podría por favor intenta responder a mi pregunta, puede ser que usted overread que: "Si le entiendo cerrectly, te refieres a" alguien "empujado el precio al nivel medio Movin, vendió la posición allí, y el mercado formado una barra de pin .. suena lógica .. ¿Eso es visible en la cartera de pedidos, mientras que el comercio .. quiero decir exactamente una gran posición vendida en esta área en el futuro (instrumento basado) los contratos? " Debe haber una razón para formar una barra de espigas .. Especialmente la información sobre la cartera de pedidos podría ser muy intresting .. Tener una buena noche .. y THX para responder a Guido [/ quote]
talking about the context in general , the volume can be handled in many ways , you can analyze the VSA (volume spread analysis ) there are also paid software that let you see the number of contracts that behind the candles and see who has the buyer Control Control and seller , if you have further questions let me know and I will answer , I hope you have happy trading and happy weekend
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