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  • #61
  • Sep 20, 2015 9:54pm Sep 20, 2015 9:54pm
Here is a picture of my GA trade where I place my TP at the top of the range. I also entered GN long off, well, it could be taken off the 4hr or the 1d chart. But, all three indicators lined up, not just any two, but three. Also, based on the placement of the S_T, and the S T on the 1d chart, it was pretty easy to see that it would not have been too risky to enter off a lower tf chart for an earlier entry. The versatility of these indicators is going to turn out to be beneficial the more I get used to the way that price action reacts to them. The more I have seen my new charts in action, the more I am excited about the future.

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  • #62
  • Sep 20, 2015 10:10pm Sep 20, 2015 10:10pm
Here is a GbpJpy trade that signaled which looked good so I took it. BTW... There was a EurUsd and a EurJpy short signals on the 1d chart which signaled earlier, but I passed on those, as I felt I was sitting on support and did not think that it was worth the risk.

Also, we had confirmation with a whiplash trade on GA which validated keeping our trade open. That is the number that shows on the chart.

Enjoy the charts and the system. Goodnight. I have plenty of tools that I can trade whenever I want, and don't need to stay up all night doing it!

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  • #63
  • Sep 21, 2015 8:01am Sep 21, 2015 8:01am
Hi Damonl,
I've been looking over your system, and i'm interested in following what you are doing. I don't have any charts at this time (tech problems) so I haven't downloaded your indies. Just wanted to let you know I am out here
  • #64
  • Sep 21, 2015 9:24am Sep 21, 2015 9:24am
Quoting Walter4x
Hi Damonl, I've been looking over your system, and i'm interested in following what you are doing. I don't have any charts at this time (tech problems) so I haven't downloaded your indies. Just wanted to let you know I am out here
You are of course welcome. Whatever it is that you need help with when you get all set up with charts, I will be around to help you!
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  • #65
  • Sep 21, 2015 9:28am Sep 21, 2015 9:28am
The GbpJpy trade closed for a small loss, and my GA and GN trades got close enough to my TP area that I closed them out for some very nice profit. Normally, I might not leave these trades run all night, but the price action as of late dictated that it would be alright to do so, and I seemed to make an good decision in that regard.
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  • #66
  • Sep 21, 2015 9:57am Sep 21, 2015 9:57am
Quoting Divergence
Since no one's responded except me here my question the 2 super trend indys are almost the same and I think they repaint and if that's the case you will get false signals almost all the time
Back to you Divergence:

So, I will rebuttal you statements. No, the S T and the S_T at not in the least bit similar. In fact, they are calculated very differently. They do not repaint once the bar has closed as far as I can tell, however, it would not matter if they did. Why, because what matters are the signals that they give in real time. I do not care what the indicator does in the past or in the future, only the here and now. Once the current bar closes, I am done with whatever happened in the past. Together, these two indicators do exactly what they are supposed to do in the present...give in accurate prediction of the momentum of the price action.

Have you even seen these two indicators divergence? I think that you have made a whole bunch of assumptions about me, and this system ever since I returned to FF. If anyone has done damage to my thread here, it has been you. Which strikes me as quite ironic because you have one of those dark red shapes by your name, which means you are supposed to be helpful and not harmful. Yet....all you have done was cause me harm.

You think you had to make dumb statements on indicators you have never seen before because you saw a histogram on my chart, and instantly, you thought you knew what repainting trend indicators I was using without evening opening up my chart to read that the histogram you saw was actually another proprietary indicator made by FerruFX. Now there is a helpful FF individual.

Not once, have you given me good advice, and not once did I ask for any of your advice. In fact, I would say to any person out there who as ever taken advice from this divergence character, that he has led me to believe that he does not know his a** from a hole in the ground, and you should disregard it immediately, and get a second opinion You mind has grown stagnant, as you know longer use it to learn anything new, and for that, you have turned into one of those individuals that has blackened the doors of FF, as you have blackened my thread.

If I do not get an apology from you by the end of trading on Friday, I will have blocked you from my post. I also would suggest that anyone who believes in what FF is doing here like I do, also block him if they do not see the way he treated me (there has been other private stuff just needling into my business). I truly believe that you have nothing of any positive nature to offer FF. So, take your time. Think about. Dig deep. Feel it, and say it like you mean it. Perhaps you don't feel you even did anything wrong, but I believe in personal space, and buddy, you walked all of mine! Then, I would start thinking about your methods. You should treat that dark red shape by your name as an honor, not as a power that FF been bestowed upon you.

Good Day
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  • #67
  • Edited 12:08pm Sep 21, 2015 11:08am | Edited 12:08pm
sorry for interrupting your marvelous system. I have looked at super trend indy about 5 yrs ago and it did repaint. I will now refrane from posting here since you don't want people to see your results via the trade explorer to verify its success. I now open the forum up to all your followers.
  • #68
  • Edited 1:41pm Sep 21, 2015 12:54pm | Edited 1:41pm
Quoting Divergence
sorry for interrupting your marvelous system. I have looked at super trend indy about 5 yrs ago and it did repaint. I will now refrane from posting here since you don't want people to see your results via the trade explorer to verify its success. I now open the forum up to all your followers.
Unaccepted! I gave you a sincere chance, and you played games with your opportunity. That apology was void of even a trace of sincerity and emotion. You will be a better person when you find those things in your life. Goodbye Divergence, and make it a great life
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  • #69
  • Sep 21, 2015 1:05pm Sep 21, 2015 1:05pm
There is a unique opportunity playing out on the 4 hr bar on EN. You can see that our two indicators and the NLD are forming support. This is a good place to play some bounces up on the 5m chart, and to watch to see if price action will fall off support by watching the 1hr/4hr chart for a complete change to the downside. If this falls, we might get a nice three or for, 4hr bar run.

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  • #70
  • Edited 1:38pm Sep 21, 2015 1:21pm | Edited 1:38pm
Quoting Walter4x
Hi Damonl, I've been looking over your system, and i'm interested in following what you are doing. I don't have any charts at this time (tech problems) so I haven't downloaded your indies. Just wanted to let you know I am out here
Hey Walter:

What you might notice, depending on your FOREX experience, is that the system is really just like trading flags, except that instead of using trend lines, we are using indicators that give us our entry based price action momentum. When they all change colors is like price crossing that trend line. The difference as I see it, is that using the indicators may be more accurate, as they will not change color when there is not enough momentum, yet there still might have been a move across a drawn trend line causing an entry, that would have turned out to be a false move. Did the way I wrote this make sense, Walter?

Though, I am not saying this is a holy grail (though nice if it was, hey?), as I am sure that there will be a share of false moves with this system as well. I am just thinking that there could be fewer false moves, as trend lines can be quite objective, and our indicators should be much more consistent.
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  • #71
  • Sep 21, 2015 1:32pm Sep 21, 2015 1:32pm
There were also a few very nice trades on the 4hr bar today that would have went on for some very nice profit which I was unfortunately not around to take. Tomorrow should be a different day. I should have my whole morning free to see if any trades come our way. I think that this is a really good system. Like any good system, it takes the operator to perfect it when it comes to when to and when not to take signals, when to exit the trade, and when to let it ride. Though, the more this system is perfected, the more we can share our knowledge with each other, to make this as automated as it can get.
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  • #72
  • Edited Sep 22, 2015 8:44am Sep 21, 2015 6:43pm | Edited Sep 22, 2015 8:44am
We have some interesting things happening tonight.....

First... we have a sell signal on the EN 1d chart as well as a short zipper trade on the same chart. To me this is confirmation for taking a short position which I plan on holding all day, or at least until later when I look to see where support is. Here is that chart...

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Second..... now.. this is not a "meat in the middle" system trade, but EJ has close below support, which tells me that we have a very good trade which I plan to hold all day, when it comes to risk/ reward. For now I have place my TP at about 133.00 which gives me a 7:1 risk reward. Though this is not one of our "system" trades. The indicators we are using makes this trade visually obvious.. to me at least. Here is the chart...

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Well.. that is all I have for tonight. Maybe I will see ya later!

Oh yeah... I noticed that the spread for FXCM gets pretty wide between 04:00 GMT and 06:00 GMT, so I have been avoiding entering any trades during this time.. and thank you, but I am not interested in switching brokers.
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  • #73
  • Edited Sep 22, 2015 9:33am Sep 21, 2015 9:53pm | Edited Sep 22, 2015 9:33am
Nice 4hr signal on the GU chart. I would take it, but I don't have any extra lots left. I am currently in a couple of system trades already. Keep the sl tight.

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  • #74
  • Edited 9:15am Sep 22, 2015 8:48am | Edited 9:15am
Quoting damonl
We have some interesting things happening tonight..... First... we have a sell signal on the EN 1d chart as well as a short zipper trade on the same chart. To me this is confirmation for taking a short position which I plan on holding all day, or at least until later when I look to see where support is. Here is that chart... {image} Second..... now.. this is not a "meat in the middle" system trade, but EJ has close below support, which tells me that we have a very good trade which I plan to hold all day, when it comes to risk/ reward. For now I...
We are still showing a sell signal on the EN daily chart, but this is my short term trading chart. price has just been bouncing around all night. Also, I saw the chart wrong, it was not a true zipper trade set up

Currently, I am up 106 pips in my EJ trade, but it appears to be coming close to hitting my stop loss which I using the peaks on the 30m chart which are formed by our three indicators. Right now that seems to be a way close the trade, but I am not sure it is the best way. Still looking for the best way to do that.
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  • #75
  • Sep 22, 2015 9:33am Sep 22, 2015 9:33am
Quoting damonl
Nice 4hr signal on the GU chart. I would take it, but I don't have any extra lots left. I am currently in a couple of system trades already. Keep the sl tight. {image}
Had a person been trading this pair last night, they would have taken a small loss of under 20 pips on the long trade, then the next bar would have given us a short trade which would currently be up around 100 pips. Unfortunately I was in bed by then. I really might have to change my sleep schedule to catch that 0800 bar.
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  • #76
  • Edited 10:00am Sep 22, 2015 9:37am | Edited 10:00am
Quoting damonl
{quote} We are still showing a sell signal on the EN daily chart, but this is my short term trading chart. price has just been bouncing around all night. Also, I saw the chart wrong, it was not a true zipper trade set up Currently, I am up 106 pips in my EJ trade, but it appears to be coming close to hitting my stop loss which I using the peaks on the 30m chart which are formed by our three indicators. Right now that seems to be a way close the trade, but I am not sure it is the best way. Still looking for the best way to do that.

My EJ trade did stop out by one pis and then turned and kept going. However, it would have also stopped out using a second exit style I had in mind as well. This is definitely something that needs more work to find the best way to exit a trade!
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  • #77
  • Edited 10:00am Sep 22, 2015 9:38am | Edited 10:00am
Quoting damonl
{quote} Had a person been trading this pair last night, they would have taken a small loss of under 20 pips on the long trade, then the next bar would have given us a short trade which would currently be up around 100 pips. Unfortunately I was in bed by then. I really might have to change my sleep schedule to catch that 0800 bar.

Now up around 130 pips......
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  • #78
  • Sep 22, 2015 10:00am Sep 22, 2015 10:00am
Quoting damonl
{quote} Had a person been trading this pair last night, they would have taken a small loss of under 20 pips on the long trade, then the next bar would have given us a short trade which would currently be up around 100 pips. Unfortunately I was in bed by then. I really might have to change my sleep schedule to catch that 0800 bar.

Now up around 160 pips. Darn am I sorry I missed this one. There will be others. I need to be patient and only trade system trades, as it is when I don't trade the system trades that I lose what I gained from the system.
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  • #79
  • Edited 7:06pm Sep 23, 2015 10:08am | Edited 7:06pm
There were lots of super good trades this morning which I missed as I thought I would stay up later than normal and trade a later bar, which was really kind of dull. I am going to just stick with my regular sleeping schedule knowing that sometimes, the trades are going to happen on bars that I won't be able to get to. I just need to be okay knowing that not being in the market is better than forcing trades that aren't really there and taken losses.

Some interesting things coming up.

1) Now that everything is in place, and there is no reason for me to trade outside the system, I have funded a small account so we can get this going, and I can show you the results as we move forward.

2) I am going to remove the whiplash indicator from the system. Not that it isn't good, but because it is too objective to still know if one should take the trade or not, and is not the thing for the beginner of this system.

3) I am in talks to get an indicator made which will alert us when the three indicators come into alignment. Right now, all we have is the alert from the NLD, which does not always co-inside with all indicators being aligned.

4) As I have been trading this, and watching the indicators in real time, , I have modified some of the indicator settings. I will make a post when newest templates have been uploaded. It is still good as is, I just want it too be better.

5) I am also in talks to get an indicator that will alert us when a Zipper trade opportunity sets up on the chart. This is a trade that I really like, and has a high win rate for me since I have been trading it, and have been able to catch the trades.

Well, I think that is all that is up and coming for now.
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  • #80
  • Sep 23, 2015 2:02pm Sep 23, 2015 2:02pm
Good afternoon:

I took a trade a few hours ago on 4hr GbpAud based on sister bottoms and a partial whiplash set-up. I caught the whiplash set-up without using the indicator as I have taken it off my charts temporarily, as a filter needs to be added to it so as not to give signals that are not necessary to take. The idea will be to have it only give signals that we have a 75% chance of taking or greater. That filter will be added eventually, but right now it is not a top priority on my list.

Enjoy the chart. Our trade is doing well.

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