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  • #1,006,921
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:04pm Jul 2, 2015 2:04pm
still the resistance level 1.1120 stands until there is no break expect more drop on the EUR/USD but the volume on the pair is low.
  • #1,006,922
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:07pm Jul 2, 2015 2:07pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} As TheFool said it in the other thread. Old fashioned "Regime change" is the name of the game now. There is where all the bets are in a "yes" referendum. That will allow kicking the can "by default" [no pun intended] with a new government giving a emergency loan extension FOR 6 months (dec 2015) before the new government implement all the IMF /EZ recommendation to get a new bridge loan to cover all Greek debt repayments for the next 2 years. Basically, kicking the can for 2 years and hoping this time Greece reform .... Any other scenario...
The tragedy of it being that half year was wasted without any reforms while the prolonged austerity is not helping; Stieglitz' may have a point there.
  • #1,006,923
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:19pm Jul 2, 2015 2:19pm
Quoting 2046
{quote} The tragedy of it being that half year was wasted without any reforms while the prolonged austerity is not helping; Stieglitz' may have a point there.
It's honestly a tragedy and will be an epic one if they keep a government (this or a new one) without a plan.

Stiglitz got a point that is UNDENIABLE about the shameful outcomes of the Troika first deals. It is hard to explain to anybody, Greek or not, how on earth they managed to clear ALL the private/banks holding debt but at the same time duplicating the total public debt in Greece with a 25% economic contraction !!!.

It will pass to history as one of the major scandalous rip-offs the bastards have pulled off since modern global finance were invented....and in that sense alone the EZ governments must be accountable for being used as puppet masters.... to be honest I completely understand why any Greek would vote NO.... sadly voting NO is a recipe for even worst outcomes given the lack of plans of the current government .... Its basically voting for the less of 2 evils ...

sisse
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  • #1,006,924
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:20pm Jul 2, 2015 2:20pm
Quoting Pharm0r
Looking bleak for my entries before the holiday. Oh well, have a good 4th to all the Americans. Anyone else....have fun doing whatever it is you do on the 4th......which I cant imagine would be anything else but celebrating America's independence day anyway.
like watch a film made in the USA? anyway have a great 4th, American Bad-asses..
We love your country man, for them Blue denims, Hollywood, Rock-bands & of course gorgeous women..
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edit: Eminem's "White America" on the playlist..
  • #1,006,925
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:21pm Jul 2, 2015 2:21pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} As TheFool said it in the other thread. Old fashioned "Regime change" is the name of the game now. There is where all the bets are in a "yes" referendum. That will allow kicking the can "by default" [no pun intended] with a new government giving a emergency loan extension FOR 6 months (dec 2015) before the new government implement all the IMF /EZ recommendation to get a new bridge loan to cover all Greek debt repayments for the next 2 years. This is pretty much literally the deal in play now with a YES vote Basically, kicking the can for...
http://www.ekathimerini.com/198842/a...ter-a-yes-vote

That's what EU is planning. But they might be surprised even after a 'yes' vote with a government even harsher than Syriza and even less EU friendly.
  • #1,006,926
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:21pm Jul 2, 2015 2:21pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} Your graphics card is a goner - don't waste your time if it's a notebook IF PC you can get cheap GC for $10-20 {quote} Indeed it is {quote} Stop dead at Daily Open as expected - will give it till Asia session - if no progress will take +60 pips better than come back to kick me out {quote}
time to take profit?
Perfecting your entry will increase your profits
  • #1,006,927
  • Edited 2:55pm Jul 2, 2015 2:24pm | Edited 2:55pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} ???... I think you forgot to add the most and only important factor when you talk about debt (private or public) which is call the Capacity to Pay. Without that very key factor, you are just comparing apples to oranges.... sisse {quote} Well the whole debt to pay debt to renegotiate debt its just a bunch of financial technicalities to differ payments, avoid default and more importantly avoid making the extra money look very bad at the national level (so the press and the average guy in Finland or Austria, etc wont complain/notice too much...
do all countries have the capacity to pay their debts?... i don't think so...do every japanese in japan have 97 000$ in their Pocket to give for free today?... No... and still their debt and every other countries debt increase much faster than greece.................
the real question is to know if tomorrow the countries like USA Japan, will be able to pay their debt?...hmmm yes they will, thanks to debt discount of discount game, just another unknown fantasy from the future (stop the small, let the big run till a magic discovery is made)...notice that their debts increase faster than greece from what we see so far... tomorrow means their sons, grand sons, so they have all spent today the money of their sons & grand-sons, they simply sold their kids and try to sell their grand grand kids just cuz they think they are smarter than their grandkids will be tomorrow, they may be true, arrest a cheater so the other one can escape and keep cheating and profit...good luck with this madness! bye
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  • #1,006,928
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:25pm Jul 2, 2015 2:25pm
Quoting micho
{quote} thanks man the thing is i broke a rule in my entry and at the same time the price reversed 4 times on me so this was one of a kind since 9 weeks. i didn't know this was possible. now i have to do some more reading and see if i'd try again. there are so many things the market movers can do to win over you... hope you can keep your account too
reading what? if you do fine for a while and after a period of time one trade wipes a good amount of your acc and this happens regularly its not lack of knowledge, its simply lack of discipline which is doing harm.ive been there too. a trade is a trade. the sum will bring you somewhere not one here and there.
keep doing what you did except the risk you took today. all the best.
follow the flow
  • #1,006,929
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:25pm Jul 2, 2015 2:25pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} As TheFool said it in the other thread. Old fashioned "Regime change" is the name of the game now. There is where all the bets are in a "yes" referendum. That will allow kicking the can "by default" [no pun intended] with a new government giving a emergency loan extension FOR 6 months (dec 2015) before the new government implement all the IMF /EZ recommendation to get a new bridge loan to cover all Greek debt repayments for the next 2 years. This is pretty much literally the deal in play now with a YES vote Basically, kicking the can for...
i think the figure is somewhere about 20% greek gdp shrunk this year. maybe a 1000 y bond will help them at 1%.. with the current trend on the lower trajectory its not promising. the greeks are already unable to pay all the restructured debt for the last 5years +. and its not looking any better today, or after a yes or no vote. at the present gdp trajectory. they need shipping (china down)).. they need tourist.. a lower euro will heal some ills. that healing may require the giving of some reserve status hopes. germany wants it their way only with little inflation. well they cant have it their way all the time. or this will continue as those other poor countries lose gdp.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,006,930
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:26pm Jul 2, 2015 2:26pm
Quoting Deliciouspip
{quote} time to take profit?
Closed half and decided to risk the other half
  • #1,006,931
  • Jul 2, 2015 2:39pm Jul 2, 2015 2:39pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the average Joe in emu is the one who will pay the toll.
Looking like we're still in play for next week, without a Greek curveball over the weekend or any terrorist attacks.
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  • #1,006,932
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:06pm Jul 2, 2015 3:06pm
Quoting Mr.Dan
{quote} Money management is a skill that comes over time. Sorry to hear that you lost 50% of your account. Blown few of my accounts but now trade with margin 450%+.
thanks
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,006,933
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:08pm Jul 2, 2015 3:08pm
Quoting Atihun
{quote} reading what? if you do fine for a while and after a period of time one trade wipes a good amount of your acc and this happens regularly its not lack of knowledge, its simply lack of discipline which is doing harm.ive been there too. a trade is a trade. the sum will bring you somewhere not one here and there. keep doing what you did except the risk you took today. all the best.
yes will try, thanks. good luck to you
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,006,934
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:09pm Jul 2, 2015 3:09pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} http://www.ekathimerini.com/198842/a...ter-a-yes-vote That's what EU is planning. But they might be surprised even after a 'yes' vote with a government even harsher than Syriza and even less EU friendly.
I agree, a Yes vote will create a monstruous political mess both internally (in very short term) and in europe ( medium long term).
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,006,935
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:15pm Jul 2, 2015 3:15pm
Quoting 2046
The situation is somewhat confused, not just in case of a Greek 'No' vote: - any sanctions cause further damage - a dismissal from the EU or EMU appears to be a legal challenge - a euro exit would multiply the debt due to the depreciation The cost of any debt 'haircuts' need to be picked up by European tax payers to the benefit of financial institutions which were bailed out by effectively the money the IMF granted Greece.
game set and match?... greece is not the last, just the first i guess...same end than Argentina????...let's see.... NDLR: the 5% winners bet the life of 75% loosers and lost it all... :< ... what a disgrace... bye all...
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  • #1,006,936
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:29pm Jul 2, 2015 3:29pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i think the figure is somewhere about 20% greek gdp shrunk this year. maybe a 1000 y bond will help them at 1%.. with the current trend on the lower trajectory its not promising. the greeks are already unable to pay all the restructured debt for the last 5years +. and its not looking any better today, or after a yes or no vote. at the present gdp trajectory. they need shipping (china down)).. they need tourist.. a lower euro will heal some ills. that healing may require the giving of some reserve status hopes. germany wants it their way...
They need to get real and start building a proper economy. 80% of the economy is related to the public sector mate, rampant corruption for 30 years in the highest levels of government, cooked accounts to join the Euro, instead of taking a advantage of the low interest rates and inflation with the euro they went like a kid in a candy shop, dislocated social services (lack of funding now), running out of pensions, rampant unemployment, ...and the list goes on ...

Mate what they need is to stop playing politics and call a National Standby period for Democracy with a proper leadership from all sides and delineate the basic structures in each sector and refund Greece for 2020 .... looking for crumbs from the Chinnese or the Russians, or the Americans or Whoever is like thinking that slavery could have been abolished because you change the "master" from a bad to a less bad "master" ....

I hope they vote YES and that trigger a power vacuum that force them to sit, think and select a national unity government that can see beyond their noses and political interest .... until then all options will be the same but with a different "master"...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #1,006,937
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:37pm Jul 2, 2015 3:37pm
buy limit
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  • #1,006,938
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:44pm Jul 2, 2015 3:44pm
Quoting micho
{quote} yes will try, thanks. good luck to you
well...a loss of 30 pips approx wipes out 50 percent of your account

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  • #1,006,939
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:52pm Jul 2, 2015 3:52pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Looking like we're still in play for next week, without a Greek curveball over the weekend or any terrorist attacks. {image}
How about this ? The red line
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  • #1,006,940
  • Jul 2, 2015 3:55pm Jul 2, 2015 3:55pm
i remember yesterday i hold my long and price continue drop as hell.. now that might be happen again.. .
the true currencies here is patience and react precisely
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