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  • #1,005,781
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:12pm Jun 29, 2015 6:12pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} no worries... you must learn greek and watch some greek political tv shows... you will be amused ;-)
it's all greek to me
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  • #1,005,782
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:13pm Jun 29, 2015 6:13pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Yeah, from 1209/1200 I expect it to go high before a pull back. let us see. This is technical. But Greek default might bring down this pair quickly to Monday lows. My opinion.
Actually when the government him self saying that we are not going to pay IMF , and the eu still holding above 1200 I will consider to go long , and yesterday's 's f...ng bullish D1 will bring us +13
  • #1,005,783
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:14pm Jun 29, 2015 6:14pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} it's all greek to me
what time today in ( EST ) We will know the default, any idea ?
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  • #1,005,784
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:16pm Jun 29, 2015 6:16pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} Actually when the government him self saying that we are not going to pay IMF , and the eu still holding above 1200 I will consider to go long , and yesterday's 's f...ng bullish D1 will bring us +13
As long as Greek thing is there, I do not believe in technical. It is safe to play as it comes instead of assuming something and placing trades in advance.
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  • #1,005,785
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:20pm Jun 29, 2015 6:20pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} Actually when the government him self saying that we are not going to pay IMF , and the eu still holding above 1200 I will consider to go long , and yesterday's 's f...ng bullish D1 will bring us +13
Technically too, after such bullish move, usually next day will be range bound, it may test 1300. Then a pull back may be.
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  • #1,005,786
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:21pm Jun 29, 2015 6:21pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Trying to clarify. Yes there is no provision related to EZ exit. Does your gov wish to exit EU ?
No, they don't want to exit. And that is what perplexes the issue. Under EU laws ECB & other members cannot force Greece outside EU. But they want to force it out of EZ. Since Greece doesn't want to leave EU, it has to default inside the EZ. That means it cannot issue a new currency. So even after we default we would have to get another bailout from ECB according to the treaties. But we don't want a further bailout. So no one knows what's gonna happen and how it will be handled.

If I remember well, if we stay inside EZ and default there, then creditors outside EZ would be able to go directly to ECB and request their dues (depends on the loan agreements as ECB was guarantor in most). That is the reason troika is fiercely trying to cause a Grexit. But since they can't force us to leave, they are trying to panic the people through media and impose impossible reforms (not having to do with corruption or modernization of the economy) destroying the lives of people in order for the people to revolt and ask an exit from EU on their own.
  • #1,005,787
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:22pm Jun 29, 2015 6:22pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Technically too, after such bullish move, usually next day will be range bound, it may test 1300. Then a pull back may be.
Longed in
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  • #1,005,788
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:24pm Jun 29, 2015 6:24pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} Longed in {image}
yes, 1200 is reasonable stop. Me too. 1200 is stop. will take just below 1200.
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  • #1,005,789
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:24pm Jun 29, 2015 6:24pm
Some good idea...Gold can start bearish period in the next days (probably post Greek referendum with good results)...
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  • #1,005,790
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:26pm Jun 29, 2015 6:26pm
Quoting navk
{quote} yes, 1200 is reasonable stop. Me too. 1200 is stop. will take just below 1200.
:nerd:
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  • #1,005,791
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:28pm Jun 29, 2015 6:28pm
Quoting navk
{quote} yes, 1200 is reasonable stop. Me too. 1200 is stop. will take just below 1200.
Actually its only scalp , , i think we could see 50% pull back (1.11), then go back to 1.13 or what so ever
  • #1,005,792
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:29pm Jun 29, 2015 6:29pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} Longed in {image}
You guys are making me nervous.. I thought we would at least see retracement to 50? I was just starting to feel safe after today
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  • #1,005,793
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:31pm Jun 29, 2015 6:31pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} No, they don't want to exit. And that is what perplexes the issue. Under EU laws ECB & other members cannot force Greece outside EU. But they want to force it out of EZ. Since Greece doesn't want to leave EU, it has to default inside the EZ. That means it cannot issue a new currency. So even after we default we would have to get another bailout from ECB according to the treaties. But we don't want a further bailout. So no one knows what's gonna happen and how it will be handled. If I remember well, if we stay inside EZ and default...
So we agree.

Quoting sakisf
{quote} But since they can't force us to leave, they are trying to panic the people through media and impose impossible reforms (not having to do with corruption or modernization of the economy) destroying the lives of people in order for the people to revolt and ask an exit from EU on their own.
Bingo, you summed it well.

That's why I insist on the fact that EZ exit doesn't mean Exiting EU as well as EC.

Good luck guys, you are a modern democracy lab for this century, the future of the european people democratical rights depends on you
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,005,794
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:34pm Jun 29, 2015 6:34pm
Quoting Dano12
{quote}:nerd: {image}
Definitely possible but before that I do not rule out retest of high
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  • #1,005,795
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:37pm Jun 29, 2015 6:37pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} 1)So we agree. 2) Bingo, you summed it well. That's why I insist on the fact that EZ exit doesn't mean Exiting EU as well as EC. Good luck guys, you are a modern democracy lab for this century, the future of the european people democratical rights depends on you
Thanks, I am certain though that the 'yes' vote would be over 75% as people are terrified from the local media and interventions from EU asking them to vote yes. I would prefer a complete exit from EU/EZ with a 'no' vote. Technically a default inside EZ is not an exit, we are still members of EZ with 0 dues and entitled to more funds
  • #1,005,796
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:42pm Jun 29, 2015 6:42pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Thanks, I am certain though that the 'yes' vote would be over 75% as people are terrified from the local media and interventions from EU asking them to vote yes. I would prefer a complete exit from EU/EZ with a 'no' vote. Technically a default inside EZ is not an exit, we are still members of EZ with 0 dues and entitled to more funds
Oh u R from greece , whats happening bro , have you withdrawen your all money from banks ? How things goin on?
  • #1,005,797
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:45pm Jun 29, 2015 6:45pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Thanks, I am certain though that the 'yes' vote would be over 75% as people are terrified from the local media and interventions from EU asking them to vote yes. I would prefer a complete exit from EU/EZ with a 'no' vote. Technically a default inside EZ is not an exit, we are still members of EZ with 0 dues and entitled to more funds
May be you shifted to Greece recently, The Prime Minister there assured every one pension.
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  • #1,005,798
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:52pm Jun 29, 2015 6:52pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Thanks, I am certain though that the 'yes' vote would be over 75% as people are terrified from the local media and interventions from EU asking them to vote yes. I would prefer a complete exit from EU/EZ with a 'no' vote. Technically a default inside EZ is not an exit, we are still members of EZ with 0 dues and entitled to more funds
It all depends on how the right informations are spread. The Yes for the european constitution was also gained and mass media predicted the end of the word if the No outweighed, you know what happened. Give the right info to people and let them decide.

I'm out.
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,005,799
  • Jun 29, 2015 6:55pm Jun 29, 2015 6:55pm
Quoting Sublevel
{quote} You guys are making me nervous.. I thought we would at least see retracement to 50? I was just starting to feel safe after today {image}
this mindset will not take anyone to anywhere. i mean if you listen to what others say. read yesterday's posts, almost everybody was so sure that this was going to keep down and many were full short, now some licking wounds. there are so much fking rumors around greece, fundies and all those crap, if you listen to all of themyou get the impression it is the end of the world.
this is going to 1.15 and there is no one can do a shit about it, not even those pictures of greek people in the atm queue (what a stupid scenario to play with traders feelings)
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  • #1,005,800
  • Jun 29, 2015 7:02pm Jun 29, 2015 7:02pm
Quoting tashkent
{quote} this mindset will not take anyone to anywhere. i mean if you listen to what others say. read yesterday's posts, almost everybody was so sure that this was going to keep down and many were full short, now some licking wounds. there are so much fking rumors around greece, fundies and all those crap, if you listen to all of themyou get the impression it is the end of the world. this is going to 1.15 and there is no one can do a shit about it, not even those pictures of greek people in the atm queue (what a stupid scenario to play with traders...
it could just as easily drop like a rock. your still near 1209/08. unlikely , but its still month, 1/4 end
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