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  • #1,005,721
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:40pm Jun 29, 2015 4:40pm
Quoting edyraper
could we talk some technical analysis? This greece bullshit it's really boring
sure talk..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,005,722
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:40pm Jun 29, 2015 4:40pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Don't think that international rule of law would be applicable against the Greek state at this point.
You are wrong, Bank nationalization cases will not be decided under international rule of law but under European union and European council rule of law.
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,005,723
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:44pm Jun 29, 2015 4:44pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i am sure old people eat..
do you eat?
  • #1,005,724
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:44pm Jun 29, 2015 4:44pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} You are wrong, Bank nationalization cases will not be decided under international rule of law but under European union and European council rule of law.
what if one is no longer a member?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,005,725
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:45pm Jun 29, 2015 4:45pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} do you eat?
at times, that's why i think old people dont give all their money away like suggested.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,005,726
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:46pm Jun 29, 2015 4:46pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} You are wrong, Bank nationalization cases will not be decided under international rule of law but under European union and European council rule of law.
That's what I meant. European i.e. international court decisions would not be possible to be implemented after a Grexit. Unless they bring their cannons and airplanes.

btw http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...ck-Grexit.html

And just to understand what is going on the last 5 months and why no deal was struck:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/1...mate-goal.html
  • #1,005,727
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:46pm Jun 29, 2015 4:46pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} at times, that's why i think old people dont give all their money away like suggested.
  • #1,005,728
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:47pm Jun 29, 2015 4:47pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} at times, that's why i think old people dont give all their money away like suggested.
how many crawdads will a drachma buy?
  • #1,005,729
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:48pm Jun 29, 2015 4:48pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} You are right you can nationalize. But that will be a very bad idea to do so, be prepared for multiple cases before national courts, ECJ and ECHR. ECJ and ECHR will ask the Gov to pay a fair price to the shareholders, and I doubt that the gov has the money for it.
"they" (the ones you mentioned) are in effect "shareholders" of those banks...

so they will get their fair share value at that particular...moment...


but i dont think we should start making assumptions of whats going to happen at that stage... there are main "POI" (Points Of Interest) in between...
  • #1,005,730
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:48pm Jun 29, 2015 4:48pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} what if one is no longer a member?
That will mean that Greece decide to exit European union and European Council and decide to form a new union/organisation with north korea. They have the right to do so. They have a strong card in hands if they stay inside the EU, that's why bank nationalization will be the most stupid decision.
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,005,731
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:49pm Jun 29, 2015 4:49pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} how many crawdads will a drachma buy?
i dont know, i sell them by the sack
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,005,732
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:49pm Jun 29, 2015 4:49pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} sure talk..
Pull back level ?
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  • #1,005,733
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:50pm Jun 29, 2015 4:50pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} The last guy was nfp who sold full margin ! Please dont over lev.
target 1.09
  • #1,005,734
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:50pm Jun 29, 2015 4:50pm
Quoting micho
{quote} reforms, put the politicians responsible for this joke in jail and get educated to understand that you cant be acting as an idiot and voting for idiots to rule your country and expect things to go well. same happening wherever there is corruption, corruption comes from corrupted politicians and leaders, corrupted politicians and leaders come from corrupted people, corrupted people come from lack of awareness, brainwashing due to religion/social habits and lack of education at home/school, ignorant parents, and corrupted parents come from...
...IMO, thats a rather deterministic view of the world ...basically according to you some societies are stuck forever in a vicious circle and only a few others are privilege to leave in perfect harmony.... based on your theory medieval Europe should have stayed the same forever and ever in a perpetual vicious loop of corruption/relegion/ignorants peasants/no education, war etc....I think political, economic and social interrelations in a society are a lot more complex than that ...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #1,005,735
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm
Quoting sakisf
{quote} That's what I meant. European i.e. international court decisions would not be possible to be implemented after a Grexit. Unless they bring their cannons and airplanes. btw http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...ck-Grexit.html
Have not read the link you provided but I stand by what I wrote.
Grexit mean that Greece is no more in the EZ but will still be member of the EU and EC, so under the jurisdiction of ECJ and ECHR.
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #1,005,736
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm
No short 1.127x?
  • #1,005,737
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm Jun 29, 2015 4:52pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} You are wrong, Bank nationalization cases will not be decided under international rule of law but under European union and European council rule of law.
you have to decide... are we going to be within europe...so european union/council rule of law will be in effect or outside it...

it reminds me the leaders of ours.... when they benefit of EU, euro and its legalities...lthey will "claim" it... when not...they will go against it
  • #1,005,738
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:53pm Jun 29, 2015 4:53pm
tomorrow
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  • #1,005,739
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:55pm Jun 29, 2015 4:55pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} That will mean that Greece decide to exit European union and European Council and decide to form a new union/organisation with north korea. They have the right to do so. They have a strong card in hands if they stay inside the EU, that's why bank nationalization will be the most stupid decision.
almost like a few countries spending more than they take in joining the emu. like the ecb funding them to pay interest payments because of declining revenue and rising spending.
next we will see a 500 year bond...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,005,740
  • Jun 29, 2015 4:57pm Jun 29, 2015 4:57pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Have not read the link you provided but I stand by what I wrote. Grexit mean that Greece is no more in the EZ but will still be member of the EU and EC, so under the jurisdiction of ECJ and ECHR.
According to EU treaties, for Greece to leave EZ it would have to quit from EU first. (there are no provisions for a member to leave EZ, so it can be only done by leaving EU altogether)
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