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  • #1,004,781
  • Jun 27, 2015 9:48pm Jun 27, 2015 9:48pm
Quoting verified
{quote} Same here. However, EURUSD could spike like hell. Past 2 weeks = Kindergeburtstag.
The news what we are hearing not supporting any spike unless some surprise happens on Sunday.
Intraday only.
  • #1,004,782
  • Jun 27, 2015 9:50pm Jun 27, 2015 9:50pm
"The head of the International Monetary Fund has said the Greek government's planned referendum on the terms of any new bailout plan will be invalid after Tuesday, when the current programme expires."

What can referendum help?
  • #1,004,783
  • Jun 27, 2015 9:56pm Jun 27, 2015 9:56pm
Quoting kiyo
"The head of the International Monetary Fund has said the Greek government's planned referendum on the terms of any new bailout plan will be invalid after Tuesday, when the current programme expires." What can referendum help?
The EU is much more than a financial organization. They will reject to pay according to plan ( the simply cannot ) and they will vote to stay in EU, I think.

The Titanic cannot sink, no, it can't.
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  • #1,004,784
  • Jun 27, 2015 9:57pm Jun 27, 2015 9:57pm
Quoting kiyo
"The head of the International Monetary Fund has said the Greek government's planned referendum on the terms of any new bailout plan will be invalid after Tuesday, when the current programme expires." What can referendum help?
yep the deadline was likely missed already due to vote scheduling w/o enough time. (sunday july 5) i mentioned this thursday
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,004,785
  • Jun 27, 2015 9:58pm Jun 27, 2015 9:58pm
My view is eur/usd will continue to slide. All the major banks have been hinting that the eur/usd will slide further this year to parity but recently, the eur/usd is gaining strength opposite of what the banks are saying. If eur/usd continues to strengthen further, it doesn't look nice on the banks views of the market. This time, eur/usd must go down after the open on monday. I am expecting a very wide gap down on Monday, making the monthly candle turn bearish.
  • #1,004,786
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:02pm Jun 27, 2015 10:02pm
Usually a negotiation can not simply fail but it is taken up to 11 th hour. Both sides seem to be acting tough.
Lots of rumor mills also making the market nervous.
Intraday only.
  • #1,004,787
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:05pm Jun 27, 2015 10:05pm
Quoting navk
Friday was the last day to be cautious for trading activities in eur. Now no one knows how Monday open is going to be. I have no open positions and Flat. After open if there volatility, there is a chance to make some out of it.
My broker just deactivated one of its trading platforms... the one I happened to be using. So I had to close everything before the end of the day on Friday. My PLAN was to then start using their other platform (MT4 in this case), and MAYBE open a small EUR/USD short to hold over the weekend, in anticipation of a big gap down. Well, I hadn't taken into account the fact that I needed to transfer all my money from the old platform's account to the new one, and it turned out to be a little more complicated than just clicking a "transfer funds" button. Sooo... I didn't get the transfer made before closing time Friday, and so didn't have any funds to open ANY kind of trade. In other words, I'm flat right now. Of course I'll be disappointed if there IS a huge gap down when we open, but on the other hand, if things shoot the other way I'll consider myself LUCKY things didn't work out as planned. (Saved me from myself.)
  • #1,004,788
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:07pm Jun 27, 2015 10:07pm
Quoting gatorinla
dear my bank. i need a loan, so i can pay the interest on my other loans. i have no hope on paying you back. just like i didnt pay u back on the other loans. i am sorry i lied about my finances and that it didnt cut my expenses. if u give me more money i really really promise i will do better this time. meanwhile this guy is fired by the voters and they bring in another with a new plan..
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  • #1,004,789
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:09pm Jun 27, 2015 10:09pm
Quoting Ratmach
{quote} My broker just deactivated one of its trading platforms... the one I happened to be using. So I had to close everything before the end of the day on Friday. My PLAN was to then start using their other platform (MT4 in this case), and MAYBE open a small EUR/USD short to hold over the weekend, in anticipation of a big gap down. Well, I hadn't taken into account the fact that I needed to transfer all my money from the old platform's account to the new one, and it turned out to be a little more complicated than just clicking a "transfer funds"...
It is not trading but gambling.
Intraday only.
  • #1,004,790
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:12pm Jun 27, 2015 10:12pm
Quoting gatorinla
watching paint dry here. greece missed todays deadline. the weekend is coming. by the time another proposal from greece is approved or not, it will be next week. by that time it would be near impossible for the greek politicians to vote on it. its probably going to be a missed june 30 payment. i would be extremely careful holding a long over the weekend
time will tell..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,004,791
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:15pm Jun 27, 2015 10:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} time will tell..
Something will happen either Sunday or Monday, the negotiations can not fail like this.

Eur zone knows its impact.
Intraday only.
  • #1,004,792
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:17pm Jun 27, 2015 10:17pm
Quoting navk
{quote} It is not trading but gambling.
Yeah pretty much... that's why I said "saved me from myself".
  • #1,004,793
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:18pm Jun 27, 2015 10:18pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Something will happen either Sunday or Monday, the negotiations can not fail like this. Eur zone knows its impact.
are u familiar with the way the greek system works legally?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,004,794
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:18pm Jun 27, 2015 10:18pm
lmfao. creditors vs greece

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  • #1,004,795
  • Edited 10:33pm Jun 27, 2015 10:20pm | Edited 10:33pm
Surprise....Greece failed a long time ago. There will be a kneejerk reaction, but as far as the markets are concerned....no surprise. You've had 5 years to prepare. Private capitol is already long gone.

I think sisse went pretty in depth about it already.

The kicker is....who is going to save Greece if it isnt the EU? Greece is a damn good spot to place some warheads aimed at US, and some troops marching to EU. Back when Hitler tried, Greece had money....now, they are the Detroit of the EU

Remember....the EU was heading to parity BEFORE the Greece problem, and before the 2008 fuck up. It may be the catalyst, but not the true reason.
  • #1,004,796
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:21pm Jun 27, 2015 10:21pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} are u familiar with the way the greek system works?
This is not a monetary isolated issue. This is a European Union issue. The Joker Greece has and plays.
  • #1,004,797
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:23pm Jun 27, 2015 10:23pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Something will happen either Sunday or Monday, the negotiations can not fail like this. Eur zone knows its impact.
Never will the European union allow Greece to leave the Euro, the domino effect and consequences would be unaccounted for. This whole scenario and since the beginning iv been saying they will never leave, so as of now im waiting a surprise last minute solution.

This is all a rehearsed drama, the big dogs of the EZ already all know the end result.
  • #1,004,798
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:24pm Jun 27, 2015 10:24pm
Quoting Pharm0r
Surprise....Greece failed a long time ago.
if my info is correct. they may have already missed because they can't legally vote till a set amount of time after a referendum is introduced. if anyone can confirm or deny this, its appreciated.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,004,799
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:34pm Jun 27, 2015 10:34pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} if my info is correct. they may have already missed because they can't legally vote till a set amount of time after a referendum is introduced. if anyone can confirm or deny this, its appreciated.
one rejects a Greek request for a one-month extension to its bailout
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Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, right, acknowledges applause from his party's lawmakers during a parliamentary session in Athens on Sunday morning. PHOTO: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
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STELIOS BOURAS
Updated June 27, 2015 9:15 p.m. ET
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ATHENS—Greek lawmakers gave the green light early Sunday to a proposal by the coalition government to hold a referendum on whether austerity measures demanded by lenders in exchange for further aid should be accepted by the crisis-hit nation.
In Greece’s 300-seat parliament, lawmakers voted 178-120 in favor of the referendum, while two abstained.
Greece has called a referendum for July 5 on the austerity plan that includes pension cuts and steep value-added tax increases that the rest of the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund are demanding that Athens complete to maintain funding from its €245 billion ($274 billion) bailout.
In a 14-hour, often heated debate in parliament, officials from the ruling leftist party Syriza moved to quash talk that a rejection of the austerity plan will result in the country exiting the euro bloc amid continued strong public support for the country’s membership
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,004,800
  • Jun 27, 2015 10:36pm Jun 27, 2015 10:36pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} if my info is correct. they may have already missed because they can't legally vote till a set amount of time after a referendum is introduced. if anyone can confirm or deny this, its appreciated.
Since when did they care about doing anything legally? Sisse would be my obvious person to ask, can't really be bothered to look it up. I'm sure you could exercise some google-fu and find it.....regardless, they (and the creditors) are making the rules as they go along. They vote, it's only illegal unless the other side doesn't agree. If everyone agrees whether or not it's legal, then it'll be legal anyway and everything is hunky-dory.
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