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  • #982,901
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:34am Apr 20, 2015 8:34am
up or down?
  • #982,902
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:35am Apr 20, 2015 8:35am
Quoting KonradPLN
up or down?
Upside down
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  • #982,903
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:35am Apr 20, 2015 8:35am
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Upside down
disagree.

Downside up

Watching UCAD this week
  • #982,904
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:36am Apr 20, 2015 8:36am
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Upside down
It is down, testing daily low again, this is usual. 011 is important, break of it will take the price to 0685/90.
Intraday only.
  • #982,905
  • Edited 9:22am Apr 20, 2015 8:36am | Edited 9:22am
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  • #982,906
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:37am Apr 20, 2015 8:37am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} You are looking it from wrong angle. Greece is bankrupt and faced at gun point at wall. They have no choice but to default if reforms are let down. Leaving EZ is secondary meaning for current primary scenario.
I get that. They have to reform if they want more money. If they default, theoretically it means leaving the EZ. I'm wondering why someone who lives in Greece would think that a)not reforming their economy and b) losing the benefits that belonging to the EZ carries with it will improve things. (Just for one example, if you are a young Greek and Greece leaves the EZ, it will be harder for you to travel, study and work in the more prosperous European countries. And, I'd imagine, that since letters of credit are necessary for shipping, losing the Euro would complicate things for Greek's shipping industry, which is one of the only healthy ones it has.)

So I'd like to know what someone who actually lives there would see as the advantages.
  • #982,907
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:37am Apr 20, 2015 8:37am
DAX picked up greatly today, but FTSE has been still falling. I believe GBP will remain weak tomorrow as well.
  • #982,908
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:38am Apr 20, 2015 8:38am
Quoting MissPips
{quote} Interesting. But how will being outside the EU help this?
Cheaper currency, cheaper wages, more incentive for foreigners to invest, boost of tourism & construction. Re-introduction of old productions, both in agriculture & manufacturing which had to be stopped due to EU regulations, quotas & anti-incentives (at the time they were 'funding' but now are translated as loans - loans to be less productive). As soon as GR exits EZ, then immigrants would soon evacuate the place to a better future in the northern Europe. Of course as I said poverty would spread and imported products would be scarce, but it was the same 20 years ago when I was 20, we were not born with an iphone in hand and this can be undone. Two generations lost for the benefit of the next, otherwise under EU rule it will be more than that.
  • #982,909
  • Edited Apr 21, 2015 7:48am Apr 20, 2015 8:39am | Edited Apr 21, 2015 7:48am
Maybe another chance for short from 1.0767....

......and another from 1.0715 to 1.0620 from which more longs.....
  • #982,910
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:41am Apr 20, 2015 8:41am
Quoting hathor
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miss your analysis......
wait for good news..
  • #982,911
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:44am Apr 20, 2015 8:44am
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Cheaper currency, cheaper wages, more incentive for foreigners to invest, boost of tourism & construction. Re-introduction of old productions, both in agriculture & manufacturing which had to be stopped due to EU regulations, quotas & anti-incentives (at the time they were 'funding' but now are translated as loans - loans to be less productive). As soon as GR exits EZ, then immigrants would soon evacuate the place to a better future in the northern Europe. Of course as I said poverty would spread and imported products would be scarce, but...
Ah ha. Thank you.
  • #982,912
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:44am Apr 20, 2015 8:44am
Quoting MissPips
{quote} I get that. They have to reform if they want more money. If they default, theoretically it means leaving the EZ. I'm wondering why someone who lives in Greece would think that a)not reforming their economy and b) losing the benefits that belonging to the EZ carries with it will improve things. (Just for one example, if you are a young Greek and Greece leaves the EZ, it will be harder for you to travel, study and work in the more prosperous European countries. And, I'd imagine, that since letters of credit are necessary...
not a problem... shippers are collectors of euros. paying the greeks to ship will start with another currency. i would be more worried if i was a shipper competing against a greek shipper.
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  • #982,913
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:46am Apr 20, 2015 8:46am
Quoting MissPips
Greece leaves the EZ, it will be harder for you to travel, study and work in the more prosperous European countries. .
Leaving the EZ is not equal to leaving the EU. I don't think anybody is atm really thinking about Greece leaving the EU. That would indeed be catastrophic.
Fail better.
  • #982,914
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:50am Apr 20, 2015 8:50am
Quoting LarryDarrell
{quote} Leaving the EZ is not equal to leaving the EU. I don't think anybody is atm really thinking about Greece leaving the EU. That would indeed be catastrophic.
Politically, it's the same danger to avoid. The was supposed to be something "forever" with no return. If any country leaves it, market speculations in the future would be boosted creating uncertainty at any time.
  • #982,915
  • Apr 20, 2015 8:59am Apr 20, 2015 8:59am
Quoting sakisf
{quote} Cheaper currency, cheaper wages, more incentive for foreigners to invest, boost of tourism & construction. Re-introduction of old productions, both in agriculture & manufacturing which had to be stopped due to EU regulations, quotas & anti-incentives (at the time they were 'funding' but now are translated as loans - loans to be less productive). As soon as GR exits EZ, then immigrants would soon evacuate the place to a better future in the northern Europe. Of course as I said poverty would spread and imported products would be scarce, but...
And Kokoretsi will be available after ouzo parties
  • #982,916
  • Edited 11:24am Apr 20, 2015 9:00am | Edited 11:24am
Why is everyone worried about greek exit? it's not going to happen just like US rate hike, it's not happening this year.
Edit: also party won't happen until US rate hike.
Edit : party = parity not party lol
  • #982,917
  • Apr 20, 2015 9:00am Apr 20, 2015 9:00am
Quoting LarryDarrell
{quote} Leaving the EZ is not equal to leaving the EU. I don't think anybody is atm really thinking about Greece leaving the EU. That would indeed be catastrophic.
if europe dont want them, i am sure someone else does.. short list china, russia, s korea, india.. i think all would like a favorable trade export agreement hub to s europe and surrounding areas. the koreans have produced cars for the price.. e carmakers will have problems competing with.. keep those eyes on a nickel, while they lift your wallet

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...y-for-1st-time
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  • #982,918
  • Apr 20, 2015 9:02am Apr 20, 2015 9:02am
Quoting MikiFX
{quote} Politically, it's the same danger to avoid. The was supposed to be something "forever" with no return. If any country leaves it, market speculations in the future would be boosted creating uncertainty at any time.
I don't think so. There are a lot of EU countries outside the EZ. The EZ was initiated with a clear set of rules in mind. Most of them have been broken, thats true. Nevertheless it should be possible to get back to outside-EZ-status. There will be pressure on other countries if markets percieve its possible to get outside the EZ, I agree. But atm ECB and bigger EZ-countries indicate they have the tools to stabilize those countries. Its uncertain if they are right to think so. But kicking the can another time doesn't add certainty.
Fail better.
  • #982,919
  • Apr 20, 2015 9:06am Apr 20, 2015 9:06am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} if europe dont want them, i am sure someone else does.. short list china, russia, s korea, india.. i think all would like a favorable trade export agreement hub to s europe and surrounding areas. the koreans have produced cars for the price.. e carmakers will have problems competing with.. http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...y-for-1st-time
I think Europe still wants Greece, and vice versa. Greece is european, in a way the cradle of Europe. But to stick to this theoretical scenario: if they are outside EU, why would it be a favorable trading spot. China, Russia, etc. could just as well set up shop in Libya, Albania, Belarussia... why don't they?
And air travel: the competing hubs for London, Frankfurt, Paris etc. are now in Dubai and Istanbul.
Fail better.
  • #982,920
  • Apr 20, 2015 9:11am Apr 20, 2015 9:11am
Quoting Matts Micro
Currently long EA however to potentially close gap. {image}
Nice, AU is a runaway train giving temp support to EU
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