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  • #80,101
  • Edited 10:14am Mar 24, 2015 10:03am | Edited 10:14am
EURUSD Signal:

Trend is angling down. Dragon is angling down, but not yet thru Trend. This is a "Special" PA wave situation, but further complicated by the fact of a EUR high impact release coming in the next LS. So, we have increased possibility the MMs will continue to support price in order to suck in longs and get more of the big player short orders filled. The MMs might even take price back above the half number again. We just cannot know.

The summary is that this has definite bearish signs, especially with the high volume when the MMs took the price back above the upper whole number. But patience is required. Eventually - whenever it comes - a break down thru the whole number might be the actual trade signal. If this does not happen until tomorrow, the Dragon should by then be below the Trend. If today? If today, decide for yourself if to trade it while the Dragon is above the Trend. Just consider the possibility that the MMs will continue to range the price between the whole numbers until tomorrow, in order to further build positions, presumably short positions based on what we have here so far.

If all this is on track, and if you enter before the EUR release tomorrow, then keep in mind that there could easily be a significant stop hunt of shorts tomorrow.

tah
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  • #80,102
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:05am Mar 24, 2015 10:05am
NZD/USD:

TaH already mentioned NZD/JPY on the previous page. For those are not tracking this already the NZD/USD is in a similar position. Dragon starting to angle down and approaching trend line. Potential for a scout but I am waiting for a clearer signal.


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  • #80,103
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:15am Mar 24, 2015 10:15am
USD/CHF position close .... +40 pips. I think it was good trade.
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A small profit is better than a big minus...
  • #80,104
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:18am Mar 24, 2015 10:18am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPUSD Signal Update: This turned out to also be a "Special" PA wave situation, when the MMs took price back up to previous highs, which they would only do if they were looking to complete the filling of orders up there, which could only be sell orders. And for as long as price has been ranging at these highs, those sell orders had to be mostly orders to open short positions. Not orders to close longs, which by now would mostly have already been done. Just look at the volume once the MMs manipulated the price back to the highs! {image} {image}...
This special wave just hit my SL before cable started to fall. But that is part of trading also.
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  • #80,105
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:21am Mar 24, 2015 10:21am
Quoting tulis
USD/CHF position close .... +40 pips. I think it was good trade. {image}
tulis,

1. Please edit your post above to show the closed trade PL label. This is so easy to do simply by scaling the chart height down!
2. Turn on your FF Private Message feature so I do not have to clutter this thread when needing to discuss something with you in private.

-tah
  • #80,106
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:29am Mar 24, 2015 10:29am
GBPAUD +34 pips
Closed the trade manually. Might hit the RDL later but i closed the trade so secure some profit.
GBPAUD has a bear run around 500 pips so i might look for a reversal later this week

Demarko
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  • #80,107
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:32am Mar 24, 2015 10:32am
GBPUSD: close longs, there is classic short and higher bull volumes. Start to build shorts on H1.

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  • #80,108
  • Mar 24, 2015 10:39am Mar 24, 2015 10:39am
Quoting Sheik
{quote} This special wave just hit my SL before cable started to fall. But that is part of trading also. {image}
Pain in the _____ Moves!

Sonikers,

Yes, moves like this are a pain! But, it is what the market is all about. Big players place new orders when they see an opportunity getting better, and the MMs wait long enough for right side traders to get into the market before going back to fill those new orders, stop hunting for liquidity along the way.

Sometimes, it is best to await the US Session just to see how the MMs play more of their cards, especially if the overall PA seems to be building up for a good trade. But, even when not waiting for the US Session it is a good idea to think of the possibility new orders have been placed at previous extreme price areas, and that during the US Session there might be a stop hunt move by the MMs as they take the price back to fill the new orders. And if such a move means you need to place a SL too far out in order to not get hit, then maybe that is a condition that means to pass on the trade,.....and wait to see what happens in the US Session.

tah
  • #80,109
  • Edited 11:10am Mar 24, 2015 10:58am | Edited 11:10am
USDCAD Signal:

Trend flat. Dragon up, but still below Trend. Yet, there was very high activity when the MMs took price below the half number (PVSRA), also making this a "Special" PA wave situation. More USD releases tomorrow might delay a true break up. Or, there might be a break up for a small trade, and then a big retrace tomorrow. We just cannot know how the MMs will move price. But this is now showing bullish signs. A break up thru the 1/4 Level might be what starts this trade,....today,.....tomorrow? It should not take long for the Dragon to start crossing up thru the Trend. One good pop up out of this current consolidation (position building, presumably longs) would do it!

tah
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  • #80,110
  • Mar 24, 2015 11:14am Mar 24, 2015 11:14am
Quoting Alexan4es
{quote} Price Manipulation by MMs - How the Market Works first - price only focus template, second - Sonic R. template Bull MMs push the price down to create liquidity for themselves to load more long {image} {image} Then reverse price up for their run for profit {image} {image} to be continued...
Price Manipulation by MMs - How the Market Works
first - price only focus template, second - Sonic R. template

Here we can see true reverse of previous trend. MMs desided to reverse at once, without any "pump and dump action". They do that very seldom it is because(I think) of big player's current orders.
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And here is my favorite part of any MM's run for profit movement - "pump and dump action" with suck in longs
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Whole movement
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  • #80,111
  • Mar 24, 2015 11:50am Mar 24, 2015 11:50am
hello,

what about the new version of sonic system?
any good news about the relase?

regards and good trading
  • #80,112
  • Mar 24, 2015 12:03pm Mar 24, 2015 12:03pm
USDJPY Signal:

Late in day. London Session close. Trend seemingly starting to angle up. Dragon angled up, seemingly crossing Trend. "Special" wave situation with very high activity starting below half number and coming back up (PVSRA). Price now retraced down to previous SR at 3/4 Level. Might go dead now, even drift lower, until Asian Session. But, we cannot ever know what the MMs might do. This could go up in after hours trading. A true break up thru the upper whole number should get things going, whenever that might happen. A lower entry might be okay, too.

Just remember, this could become a double bottom situation with the coming USD high impact releases. If the MMs are filling long orders, surely some big players will try to get some filled at previous lows as they asses PA as an improving opportunity for price to go higher. And if they do, then odds are the MMs will take price lower to fill those orders. We just can never know for sure.
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  • #80,113
  • Mar 24, 2015 12:08pm Mar 24, 2015 12:08pm
[quote=MisterG;8160327]{quote} GBPJPY That would be a perfect short for me {image}[/quot
2 EP closed for 277 points profit
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Man lie, woman lie, numbers don't
  • #80,114
  • Edited 12:46pm Mar 24, 2015 12:10pm | Edited 12:46pm
Quoting qazas
hello, what about the new version of sonic system? any good news about the relase? regards and good trading
New Release?

Still working on it. There is a lot in it. Many options, and they all have to be checked out. This is just some of the White charts that are possible. There is something here to please everyone.

tah
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  • #80,115
  • Mar 24, 2015 12:54pm Mar 24, 2015 12:54pm
I am considering closing the short position I opened earlier for USD/CHF pair as it is creating higher lows, is this a rational thing to do?
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  • #80,116
  • Mar 24, 2015 12:54pm Mar 24, 2015 12:54pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} New Release? Still working on it. There is a lot in it. Many options, and they all have to be checked out. This is just some of the White charts that are possible. There is something here to please everyone. tah {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Stay green! FN
  • #80,117
  • Mar 24, 2015 1:08pm Mar 24, 2015 1:08pm
GBPUSD Average+93 pips
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  • #80,118
  • Mar 24, 2015 1:20pm Mar 24, 2015 1:20pm
open short GBP/USD at 1.48617, dragon angles down, dragon below trend, price below dragon and trend.
open short USD/CAD at 1.24893, dragon angles down, dragon below trend, price below dragon and trend.
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  • #80,119
  • Mar 24, 2015 1:24pm Mar 24, 2015 1:24pm
Quoting JakeNguyen
I am considering closing the short position I opened earlier for USD/CHF pair as it is creating higher lows, is this a rational thing to do? {image}
I would close in BE or few pips loss, entry and price is near RDL. But Im too cautious nowadays.
Stay green! FN
  • #80,120
  • Mar 24, 2015 1:30pm Mar 24, 2015 1:30pm
GBPJPY Average +105 pips
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