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  • #79,761
  • Mar 11, 2015 6:05pm Mar 11, 2015 6:05pm
Quoting victorezeaku
NZDUSD scout trade entered MMs are building shot above the whole number {image}
Just sad to let dear sonicers know that I just blew my account on this trade. Apparently because I have little account to sustain such risk trade.

I think will have to stop scout trade for now and work only on classic trades which have almost 100% probability of always being a winner. My major problem is that I am always busy during the London session when classic trade opportunity always appear.

I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture. As I type, the price is now coming down. What a volatile market!
  • #79,762
  • Mar 11, 2015 7:04pm Mar 11, 2015 7:04pm
Quoting victorezeaku
{quote} Just sad to let dear sonicers know that I just blew my account on this trade. Apparently because I have little account to sustain such risk trade. I think will have to stop scout trade for now and work only on classic trades which have almost 100% probability of always being a winner. My major problem is that I am always busy during the London session when classic trade opportunity always appear. I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture. As I type, the price is now coming down. What a volatile market!...
Can i sugest you to read school of pipsology in www.babypips.com read the james16 here in forex factory then read some books about price action volumes then reread post#1 here in sonic ??? Then demo ( I hope u didnt get that loan you were talking about and you still have your job) when u get constant profits over 3-4 months go live... Here in this post u have nice pdfs on price action volumes too ... The more we learn the better we eventually get, i guess ...

Do your homework here learn about risk dont trade more than 1% of your account ... Theres an excel file here in this thread that can help you set stop loss so u wont blow your account.
  • #79,763
  • Mar 11, 2015 7:07pm Mar 11, 2015 7:07pm
Now that my desktop computer is working again, I was able to close this trade, although my GJ position is currently being hammered with a sizable drawdown. Lesson: when trading a live account (these are not a live trades), be sure to have an alternate means of managing trades on the same account such as via a mobile device.
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  • #79,764
  • Mar 11, 2015 8:18pm Mar 11, 2015 8:18pm
Quoting Alexan4es
{quote} Price Manipulation by MMs - How the Market Works first - price only focus template, second - Sonic R. template Previous movement : Bear's run for profit {image} {image} Bear MMs push the price up to suck in longs, build liquidity for themselves to load more shorts {image} {image} the further run for profit. important consequence: price always move back to recurrent level {image} {image} to be continued...

Im picking up what your putting down Alex - I havent got my head fully around it but I think this will move our understanding of markets greatly
  • #79,765
  • Mar 11, 2015 9:43pm Mar 11, 2015 9:43pm
Quoting leentjai
Opened long Scout EUR/USD {image} {image}
Closed EUR/USD with huge loss near -20000 p total...
I broke ROOlS:
1/ I ignored NEWs
2/I ignored...cut losses,run prifits
SAD results !!!!!!
  • #79,766
  • Mar 11, 2015 10:39pm Mar 11, 2015 10:39pm
Quoting victorezeaku
{quote} Just sad to let dear sonicers know that I just blew my account on this trade. Apparently because I have little account to sustain such risk trade. I think will have to stop scout trade for now and work only on classic trades which have almost 100% probability of always being a winner. My major problem is that I am always busy during the London session when classic trade opportunity always appear. I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture. As I type, the price is now coming down. What a volatile market!...

Never risk your capital, you lose some trades it's ok, but you lose your capital means you are out,
I think you were over-leveraged, that's why your account blew, study more and come back afresh,
make it great this year, good luck bro
One Punch, One Kill
  • #79,767
  • Mar 11, 2015 11:08pm Mar 11, 2015 11:08pm
Quoting victorezeaku
{quote} Just sad to let dear sonicers know that I just blew my account on this trade. Apparently because I have little account to sustain such risk trade. I think will have to stop scout trade for now and work only on classic trades which have almost 100% probability of always being a winner. My major problem is that I am always busy during the London session when classic trade opportunity always appear. I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture. As I type, the price is now coming down. What a volatile market!...
dear, victorezeaku.
do not quit your job, that is biggest mistake, i have some experience on this thing ( i trade forex more than 8 years). if you have small account, don't worry, you should divice your account = 10 part ( it is mean 100usd = 10 part ( 10usd/1part). and then try to trade with 10 chances of the classic set up. i want to talk verry much about quit your job, but my enghlish so poor, once more: don't quit your job and try become profit trader. good luke
  • #79,768
  • Edited 2:21am Mar 12, 2015 12:31am | Edited 2:21am
Quoting victorezeaku
{quote} Just sad to let dear sonicers know that I just blew my account on this trade. Apparently because I have little account to sustain such risk trade. I think will have to stop scout trade for now and work only on classic trades which have almost 100% probability of always being a winner. My major problem is that I am always busy during the London session when classic trade opportunity always appear. I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture. As I type, the price is now coming down. What a volatile market!...
victorezeaku,

How many accounts do you claim to have blown now?
You claim to have blown latest account on less than a 40 pips move?
Why are you "Scouting" for tops/bottoms when Classics are the Sonic R. System?
Why do you think Classic trades have almost 100% probability of being a winner?
Have you really even done the Homework here?
Have you really even read all that has been posted since you recently arrived?

I do not think you have done the homework here. I think you have given it lip service because by your posts you are doing only what you have always done, only you are pretending it is different now that you use our template. I am going to be kind and say this to you gently,......you need to grow up.

Edit: Based on the post you just made below - and that you are avoiding answering my questions - I suspect you are here on this thread as a joker. You are just pulling our leg for the fun you get out of doing it. You have not even tried to learn and correctly apply the Sonic R. System. By your own accounts you are not trading like a mature person and you are not even trying to. You say you have read many books about forex and you know your problem. I say that if you indeed read books, and as well as you apparently read Post #1 of this thread (if you read any books and Post #1 at all), it is no wonder you have problems.

You say, "I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture." Well, posting the close of the trade is required! You do Sonikers no favors by cluttering the thread with trade posts that you do not conclude. Are you such a wimp that all Sonikers and this thread must suffer due to your emotional tantrums? But, you weren't too emotionally down to post text about it, were you? And you weren't too emotionally down to post the crap below, were you? Frankly, I think you are a fraud.

From now on, post like a mature person that is serious about learning the Sonic R. System, or you will lose your posting privilege here. This is fair warning to you!

-tah
  • #79,769
  • Mar 12, 2015 12:31am Mar 12, 2015 12:31am
Great thanks to you all for your advice
I am happy firstly because doctors have diagnosis for my diseases and secondly because my disease have a cure. My Problem is this - Small Account = Over Trading (both high and low probability trades leading to small losses that will wipe account)

Drug Prescribed - ( Big Account with Only Few Classic Trades monthly)

I will work on getting a low interest load that I will repay overtime. Life is Risk. But with classic trades, I feel I will be covered by insurance. I have already applied for a load that will be ready in 4 months time. This will make me to stick to my risk and avoid over trading. I have come to find that classic trades that are well angulated are 99% if not 100% probability risk free. If I am able to take 5 classic trades a month, I will be fine and then focus on long term classic trades and have time for myself.

I have read many books about forex and I now know my problem. It is only with big account that I can make few classic trades that will help me sustain myself.

Summary: Small Account = Over Trading = Account Blow Up
  • #79,770
  • Edited 3:00am Mar 12, 2015 2:30am | Edited 3:00am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} victorezeaku, How many accounts do you claim to have blown now? You claim to have blown latest account on less than a 40 pips move? Why are you "Scouting" for tops/bottoms when Classics are the Sonic R. System? Why do you think Classic trades have almost 100% probability of being a winner? Have you really even done the Homework here? Have you really even read all that has been posted since you recently arrived? I do not think you have done the homework here. I think you have given it lip service because by your posts you are doing only what...
Please be mild on me. Both of us posted at the same time. Just that u press post milliseconds before me, that is why I never replied your questions. I am not daunted by my blowing of accounts. I have discovered ways of how not to trade. Day by day I realize what it takes to be successful. Day by day I realize why I must stick to classic trade.

How many accounts do you claim to have blown now? Uncountable before my discovery of Sonic System. Just about 4 small accounts after discovering sonic system
You claim to have blown latest account on less than a 40 pips move? This is the problem of having small account with very high leverage and hoping to make ends meet with it. This is the reality. But I am just happy that my problem have a solution.

Why are you "Scouting" for tops/bottoms when Classics are the Sonic R. System? Scout Trade at Support and Resistance Area with adequate money management is an edge. My problem is money management apparently because of my little capital.

Why do you think Classic trades have almost 100% probability of being a winner? I have studied lot of chats and found out that well anglelated dragon with optimal TP level is a 100% probability trade.

Have you really even done the Homework here? Yes I have

Have you really even read all that has been posted since you recently arrived? Yes I have

Dear TAH, thanks for your care so far. However, I have a question for you.

Have you forgotten The 5 Steps to becoming a trader I am in Step 3 and I hope to be in Step 5 Before the end of this year. Once I get the right capital, 2 good trade will cover all my losses.

I am just unfortunate that I do not have capital now I have found the secret of successful sonikers.

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You say, "I would have posted picture but I am rather emotionally down to save such picture." Well, posting the close of the trade is required! You do Sonikers no favors by cluttering the thread with trade posts that you do not conclude. Are you such a wimp that all Sonikers and this thread must suffer due to your emotional tantrums? But, you weren't too emotionally down to post text about it, were you? And you weren't too emotionally down to post the crap below, were you? Frankly, I think you are a fraud

Dear TAH, this is part of the frustrations and psychology of losing a trade. I hope this thread is not just for success. It will be great if you motivate and encourage newbies rather than scorn them.

I understand how you feel when people still fail after your hardwork of providing solutions to solve the problem of mankind. You may not understand especially if you have all other factors in place for trading.

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Based on the post you just made below - and that you are avoiding answering my questions - I suspect you are here on this thread as a joker. You are just pulling our leg for the fun you get out of doing it. You have not even tried to learn and correctly apply the Sonic R. System. By your own accounts you are not trading like a mature person and you are not even trying to. You say you have read many books about forex and you know your problem. I say that if you indeed read books, and as well as you apparently read Post #1 of this thread (if you read any books and Post #1 at all), it is no wonder you have problems.
TAH
Many traders may have the same system/method, but there are other variables like the account size I pointed out.

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From now on, post like a mature person that is serious about learning the Sonic R. System, or you will lose your posting privilege here. This is fair warning to you!
This is not a fair way of encouraging a newbie soniker. This is the problem facing most newbie sonikers. But many of them will not be bold to post their experience and rather die in silence forever. I hope my failure and future success will be a motivation to all newbies. I hope this thread is not all about success stories. Ask your self - What percentage of newbie sonikers survive after reading all the post on page one.

Considering the popularity of this thread across the world, I am sure not up to 1% of newbie soniker will survive upto step 5 of the the 5steps to successful trading reference. If you doubt me. Create a poll for this. Success in trading is multi-factorial. Having the right system is not a guarantee to success.

Lesson to learn

When every other thing is right, A single factor like account size could just be the only determining factor when it comes to success and failure in trading. No matter how had I try, my little account makes me emotional about trade. I makes me over trade. It makes me loss money ever with a few pip deviation against me.

This is just the plain truth and I know a lot of newbies battle with this. I hope this thread is not just for sharing success story.

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i wanted to point something out about the 5 min chart. trading with a 5k account you could potentially trade 10 contracts. trading 10 contracts and only taking 50 percent of the total move for each would have made you around 2500 dollars in one day. trading one contract would have made you 250. trading 100 would be 25,000 in one day. and lets remember its only one market. what i do is watch around ten markets and wait for the perfect set ups. anyone can do this with practice. if you decide to trade 5min charts on forex i want to warn you to be careful....
James 16
  • #79,771
  • Edited 3:03am Mar 12, 2015 2:51am | Edited 3:03am
Quoting victorezeaku
{quote} Please be mild on me. Both of us posted at the same time. Just that u press post miliseconds before me, that is why I never replied your questions. I am not daunted by my blowing of accounts. I have discovered ways of how not to trade. Day by day I realize what it takes to be successful. Day by day I realize why I must stick to classic trade. How many accounts do you claim to have blown now? Uncountable before my discovery of Sonic System. Just about 4 small accounts after discovering sonic system You claim to have blown latest account on...
1. There is nothing wrong with a small, highly leveraged account. You just have to trade in proper small sized amounts.
2. Scout trading is high risk. Don't be fooled by S&R or Demand & Supply levels, thinking they will hold price. We cannot know how the MMs will move price!
3. No trade is 100% certain. Not Classic, not any. We cannot know how the MMs will move price!
4. You have not found the secret to success. It is not account size! It is trade size relative to account size and leverage, and competent trading.

-tah
  • #79,772
  • Mar 12, 2015 3:07am Mar 12, 2015 3:07am
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Pic #1 shows a possibility as to what is shaping up to come. Just remember, the MMs have total authority over price. They will do with it whatever they want to do with it. Then, if you switch to your H1 chart (pic #2) you will see this entire formation as just the right shoulder of an even bigger potential H&S formation, one that has a target of RWL! This is speculation now, but is it any wonder that big players might have decided to add more sell orders back up a bit higher, and that the MMs have manipulated the price back up and are forcing...
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Shaping up as an interesting day. LS just started but already price is at the neckline of the larger H&S formation....
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  • #79,773
  • Mar 12, 2015 3:19am Mar 12, 2015 3:19am
Nice scout before LO but I prefer classis. Close LONG on GBP/USD 7.25%
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  • #79,774
  • Mar 12, 2015 4:33am Mar 12, 2015 4:33am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDJPY Shaping up as an interesting day. LS just started but already price is at the neckline of the larger H&S formation.... {image}
Entered scout on this in the Asian session and now playing along with the trend and PA leaving the dragon after a pullback.
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Man lie, woman lie, numbers don't
  • #79,775
  • Edited 10:33am Mar 12, 2015 4:55am | Edited 10:33am
EURUSD : Are MMs Bulls or Bears

In my opinion they are Bears, creating liquidity for themselves to open more shorts. Technical analisys shouts "it cannot be, there must be reverse here, it is unnormal - such movement without notable retraces" But MMs use this "unnormal movement" - all flat strategies crushed, all martingeil strategies crushed. MMs use this "unnormality" to blow accounts. Don't allow to deceive yourself - they are still Bears
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  • #79,776
  • Edited 6:36am Mar 12, 2015 5:38am | Edited 6:36am
Not looking for any argument about supply demand etc here... I come in peace.

In my opinion there is nothing about laziness in using this indicator and there is obviously more than one way to skin a cat so here is a little something if it can help some traders. Obviously thousands of hours of screentime with successful SD dynamics do me good but I am also happy to use this to prevent the absolutely horrendous drawdown and serious lack of common sense I have witnessed in this thread recently.

Ongoing GBP/NZD short trade. Explanations on the chart.

EDIT: out of the trade following M15 red pinbar at 2.0243 suggesting possible buying into the candle and retracement.

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  • #79,777
  • Mar 12, 2015 7:49am Mar 12, 2015 7:49am
Perfect trading day 100% success in 5 trades. 5 pullbacks total +238 pips

USDJPY +37pips
USDCHF +54pips
USDCAD +47 pips
GBPUSD +45 pips
EURUSD +55 pips

Demarko
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  • #79,778
  • Mar 12, 2015 7:53am Mar 12, 2015 7:53am
Quoting demarko7
Perfect trading day 100% success in 5 trades. 5 pullbacks total +238 pips USDJPY +37pips USDCHF +54pips USDCAD +47 pips GBPUSD +45 pips EURUSD +55 pips Demarko {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Stay green! FN
  • #79,779
  • Mar 12, 2015 7:59am Mar 12, 2015 7:59am
Textbook. Looks fantastic, congrats.

Quoting demarko7
Perfect trading day 100% success in 5 trades. 5 pullbacks total +238 pips USDJPY +37pips USDCHF +54pips USDCAD +47 pips GBPUSD +45 pips EURUSD +55 pips Demarko {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Hidden in plain sight.
  • #79,780
  • Edited 8:13am Mar 12, 2015 8:00am | Edited 8:13am
Quoting demarko7
Perfect trading day 100% success in 5 trades. 5 pullbacks total +238 pips USDJPY +37pips USDCHF +54pips USDCAD +47 pips GBPUSD +45 pips EURUSD +55 pips Demarko {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Well , chapeau bas !
My day wasn't so good , + 79 points
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And I think I can call this a week , unless something great appears tomorrow...
Man lie, woman lie, numbers don't
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