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  • #79,721
  • Mar 10, 2015 4:36pm Mar 10, 2015 4:36pm
Quoting luisermers
FFcal panel , not working yet???

Check out post 79,163 for version 2.

Follow thread from there if you have problems. All working now.

Regards,

Pent
  • #79,722
  • Mar 10, 2015 6:10pm Mar 10, 2015 6:10pm
Hi all, I'm a year ago with this great and my only system that has cast me to make money only operating waves in time frame of 15 minutes, since the opening of london and the opening of USA. I want to briefly state my case. Turns out I just work the waves, CLASICC, looking a little volume, but as I say I do not look the volume much, wanted to know what else should I do about my uestion is: who schedules or Time frames have to look to see if the wave I have to look it up or down? Because I see many comments greatest time watching other frames, 1H, 4H, etc ... and I just looked at the 15 minute time frames ... Esque often think that was a coincidence that I'm winning with this system, but not know if I'm doing as it should do, the right way. I would like to be told that analysis do when they open their computer every day, to guide me better and not have that uncertainty. Thank you very much and I hope your prompt response to all of you and count it as my second family! .
Greetings and sorry for my English esque in Spain does not give us very well hehehehe.
  • #79,723
  • Edited 7:49pm Mar 10, 2015 7:05pm | Edited 7:49pm
Quoting thebermejo
Hi all, I'm a year ago with this great and my only system that has cast me to make money only operating waves in time frame of 15 minutes, since the opening of london and the opening of USA. I want to briefly state my case. Turns out I just work the waves, CLASICC, looking a little volume, but as I say I do not look the volume much, wanted to know what else should I do about my uestion is: who schedules or Time frames have to look to see if the wave I have to look it up or down? Because I see many comments greatest time watching other frames, 1H,...
The Sonic R. System Classic Setup

From the start of this thread it is easy to see that the prime elements of the Sonic R. System are price action (PA) and the Dragon, PA that generates a decently smooth and spaced out wave that crosses the Dragon at a time when the Dragon shows good angle in the direction of the PA crossing. That is the core of the Classic setup.

Early in the thread some indicators appeared below the main chart window: MACD, QQE, CCI and eventually Volume replaced them. Soon after the thread got started the Trend line (89 ema) was added to the main chart.

But the core of the Sonic R. System is the Classic trade based on suitable PA and Dragon angle. And the London session tends to be the time span when most of the better running Classics start. But, we can never know about before (the Asian session) and after (tail end of the US session), because sometimes good Classic setups run then, too. Just less frequently.

Volume ended up replacing the previously used indicators because volume is the only indicator not based on price and it highlights in real time something that is very important to the momentum that we are looking for in having a good Dragon angle. Volume that is increasing as the third leg of the PA wave is being created is a good sign for there being a genuine breakout coming, instead of a head fake.

The Price, Volume and S&R Analysis (PVSRA) technique of ascertaining if the market is bullish or bearish overall is to help us in selecting what Classic setups - longs or shorts - might be the ones to focus on, and if taking setups in opposition to PVSRA, to at least be aware of that fact, and maybe have more conservative expectations for such trades.

But the core of the Sonic R. System is using the M15 chart and looking for Price Action generating a decently smooth and spaced out wave that crosses the Dragon at a time when the Dragon shows good angle in the direction of the PA crossing.

-tah
  • #79,724
  • Mar 10, 2015 7:15pm Mar 10, 2015 7:15pm
NZDUSD Long Trade Open/Close;

Closed for gain of 14.3 pips average, 71.5 pips total.

This was an Asian session Classic setup. I traded the setup due to the smooth, spaced out PA waves and the Dragon crossing the Trend with good angle. I had reduced expectations for the trade due to this being the Asian session. It does not have a wide trading range. I set the TP at the level area that has acted as both support and as resistance in the recent past, which you can easily see on the chart.
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  • #79,725
  • Mar 10, 2015 10:12pm Mar 10, 2015 10:12pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDCAD Short Trade Open: Classic setup, albeit after LS. The MMs FOMC trigger play looks like a quick run down the price queue to exhaust liquidity for going short by triggering all pending long order imbalance. Dragon is angled down but still above Trend, so I did wait after the whack job a to see if price would come back up a bit before starting entries. No TP, SL at this time. More USD and CAD high impact releases coming this week, so there are those occasions and lots of time for the MMs to manipulate and build their positions. {image}...
USDCAD Short Trade Closed:

Closed for loss of 220.2 pips average, 1,761.6 pips total loss.

"Scouting" on the wrong side of the Dragon is not the way to trade -
See, this is what can happen by Scouting on the wrong side of the Dragon and not closing a trade that is red in reasonable time. I was really anticipating this to start dropping quite some time ago and was willing to endure some ranging, but enough iwas enough.

On the bright side, this will come down, and when it does I will more than likely make far more profit than this loss.
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  • #79,726
  • Mar 10, 2015 11:02pm Mar 10, 2015 11:02pm
I see a the beginnings of a Sonic wave that might might might manifest on USD/JPY however PVSRA shows a 'wall infront of it. Just wondering if anyone else thinks this is a potential classic and whether or not people think the current PVSRA in this pair makes the setup void.
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  • #79,727
  • Edited 11:56pm Mar 10, 2015 11:30pm | Edited 11:56pm
Quoting fexitrade
I see a the beginnings of a Sonic wave that might might might manifest on USD/JPY however PVSRA shows a 'wall infront of it. Just wondering if anyone else thinks this is a potential classic and whether or not people think the current PVSRA in this pair makes the setup void.{image}
USDJPY

I too have been watching this one. The move below the whole number gives this a bullish flavor. The upper resistance is high enough to still make decent profit. Yet, I would like to see a better PA wave. I would like to see PA drop back down, at least into the Dragon. And if it does that, maybe in conjunction with the FO or the LO, and if the candle that puts price into the Dragon ends up being a candle with a distinct lower wick, then I'd be prone to go long at that time if I am at the computer.

If not at the computer, then maybe set a pending long order for if the ask price gets back down to.....say 121.30.

BTW, as regards the resistance. It appears to be in the area just below the upper whole number, but if price goes up as part of a reversal move, it is darn sure to go past that whole number, as it is rare to see a reversal where price has not been rammed thru a whole or half number. And if price is not going to reverse, if it is to continue trending up, then the resistance below the whole number will be broken anyway, maybe after a minor retrace.
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  • #79,728
  • Mar 10, 2015 11:42pm Mar 10, 2015 11:42pm
Greetings guys, just want to know if this is a possible setup for long.
Volume hikes at low (RED CIRCLE), and PA drops lower with less volume @ H1 chart. PVT seems to be supporting the PA as well.
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  • #79,729
  • Mar 11, 2015 12:02am Mar 11, 2015 12:02am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDJPY I too have been watching this one. The move below the whole number gives this a bullish flavor. The upper resistance is high enough to still make decent profit. Yet, I would like to see a better PA continue trending up, then the resistance below the whole number will be broken anyway, maybe after a minor retrace. {image}
Cool thanks for the feedback... Im also watching cable euro and nzd... They seem to be the same trade though - buy the dip on the dollar against anything! Given that this strat might go ok untill MMs / Yellen do something.
  • #79,730
  • Mar 11, 2015 4:25am Mar 11, 2015 4:25am
Hello people. Since a few days ago, the FFcal not work me ... I see is mine thing for your recent screenshots. I have not touched any of the properties. It just left me working. Has arrangement?

Thanks in advance.
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  • #79,731
  • Mar 11, 2015 4:32am Mar 11, 2015 4:32am
Seeking advice from the seniors on this glorious Sonic R. System trend.

The more I study/read PVSRA the more I get confused so here I'm posting an example of what I see on AUDUSD.

Daily:

Trend down but price its trapped in a range since 29th Jan.
Lowest 07.6255 on the 2nd Feb, and highest 26th Feb 0.79126.
Range width approx. 280 pips.

H4:
Ranging and started to drop on the 6th March with a bear candle.
Bull candle on the 10th March with higher volume than the previously mentioned bear candle, opening at 0.76210 (below quarter number) but next candle dropped price down to 0.76100

M15:
Dragon slightly pulling up from a well-established downtrend but trend line above it.
Long bear candle at 4AM GMT closing below whole number.
Long bear candle at 8AM GMT again closing below whole number.
Less long bull candle at 8:30AM GMT opening slightly above whole number.
Bear candle with long wick at LO reached below whole number.
Significant larger bull candle at 9:15AM opened a bit above whole number and surpassed in height all the previous 4 significant candle.

PVSRA:
Im reading it based on down trend established in daily and H4, which continues in the M15, to me is bear. On the M15 the 4AM and 8AM even though closed below the whole number, the majority of the candle developed above whole number. The 8:30, 9 and 9:15 all opened a bit above the whole number and developed above the whole number. As per PVSRA indication, if price action is above a significant price level then MMs are bears.

Classic short on M15 at the moment.

Lets see how goes
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  • #79,732
  • Edited 8:20am Mar 11, 2015 4:48am | Edited 8:20am
Get scout in the UJ for now..

Noo way.. i gona add pos.. as it is above dragon..

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  • #79,733
  • Mar 11, 2015 5:11am Mar 11, 2015 5:11am
Thank you very much for your prompt response is very kind of you. Say that you told me what I'm doing every day, when the wave is formed in or near the dragon dragon ... And lean on the voumen all them time frame of 15 minutes.
So I have to look at other time frames higher 1h, 4h or 1 day?
I'm asking to know which way I have to find the wave, ie if I have to wait for a bullish or bearish wave, because when I see a wave he is in the direction that is the work prodce within the apertra schedules and opening london used.
we really appreciate it that I resolved that issue, because for me it is very valuable and the truck to follow every day.
Add an image in a bullish wave supported by volume, and no hope to tell me if I'm right. Although now the price is dropping.
A greeting and thanks for being so generous with people!
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  • #79,734
  • Mar 11, 2015 7:42am Mar 11, 2015 7:42am
Quoting traderathome
NZDUSD Long Trade Open/Close; Closed for gain of 14.3 pips average, 71.5 pips total. This was an Asian session Classic setup. I traded the setup due to the smooth, spaced out PA waves and the Dragon crossing the Trend with good angle. I had reduced expectations for the trade due to this being the Asian session. It does not have a wide trading range. I set the TP at the level area that has acted as both support and as resistance in the recent past, which you can easily see on the chart. {image}
TAH - Like your black background and candles, much nicer visual at least for me.....great explanation as i'm trying to improve in that area......
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  • #79,735
  • Edited 9:13am Mar 11, 2015 8:27am | Edited 9:13am
Hi guys,

I am still learning, hope I am interpreting this system fairly well but I will keep posting trades here as I go for scrutiny.

Classic Set up. I didnt hold this trade for long, would you normally hold your position for a bit longer?

Anyway shorted GBPUSD +49pips
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  • #79,736
  • Mar 11, 2015 8:50am Mar 11, 2015 8:50am
Quoting karnage
Hi guys, I am still learning, hope I am interpreting this system fairly well but I will keep posting trades here as I go for scrutiny. Classic Set up. I didnt hold this trade for long, would you normally hold your position for a bit longer? Anyway shorted GBPUSD +49pips {image}

karnage,

Could you please remove trade window on your charts prior to posting making it easier for all to see your complete chart.......Thank You
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  • #79,737
  • Mar 11, 2015 8:55am Mar 11, 2015 8:55am
Sure, will do, sorry about that
  • #79,738
  • Mar 11, 2015 9:18am Mar 11, 2015 9:18am
Quoting karnage
Hi guys, I am still learning, hope I am interpreting this system fairly well but I will keep posting trades here as I go for scrutiny. Classic Set up. I didnt hold this trade for long, would you normally hold your position for a bit longer? Anyway shorted GBPUSD +49pips {image}
Was a good call imho, your TP is fine, near resistance level. I would have waited a bit more and TP at RDL level.

Cheers!
FN

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Stay green! FN
  • #79,739
  • Mar 11, 2015 9:31am Mar 11, 2015 9:31am
Quoting forexn00b
{quote} Was a good call imho, your TP is fine, near resistance level. I would have waited a bit more and TP at RDL level. Cheers! FN {image}

karnage,

I agree with forexnoob and although not a Sonic indicator, many here use the supply and demand indicator to offer a nice visual of support and resistance levels. Also I might suggest that you zoom out as well to see your complete chart.
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  • #79,740
  • Mar 11, 2015 9:36am Mar 11, 2015 9:36am
USDJPY Short Trade Open:

M15 Classic. Entry placement okay, but since entry the MMs are running up the price again. Are the MMs bullish? Or are they bearish and stop hunting and filling new shorting orders suddenly placed back up a bit higher? Time will tell. No TP. As for SL, I am watching. I do not intend to add while "red".
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