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  • #966,241
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:13pm Mar 5, 2015 3:13pm
Quoting kenfen69
{quote} Its been a fascinating thing to watch; the formation...the unified currency...the expansion. "Semi" New World thinking...but Old World problems. Interesting to compare to the States that are United in America...which happened a couple hundred years earlier...in the New World. Differences between States are often wide...gay marriage, marijuana etc. Tell me this... Who is the Greece of America...and who is the Germany? Surely there must be a way to correlate it in that fashion? I'm just curious about it. Would Germany equal CA, NY...or DE,...
Apples to oranges to compare the EU to the US. I've traveled extensively in Europe and am always struck by the stark cultural differences among Europeans. Greeks, Italians and Spaniards stick out like a sore thumb in Germany for instance, and they aren't viewed as equals by them, similar to how Hispanics are viewed here in the US (unfortunately). Also, the economies of American states evolved in a way to support the entire nation, whereas Europe's economies evolved independently in a global theatre. Very, very different. They've become intertwined due to geo-political reasons in modern times, not out of absolute necessity.
  • #966,242
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:15pm Mar 5, 2015 3:15pm
Quoting kenfen69
{quote} Agreed! And NOBODY does it better in that sense. I witness it over, and over again...in person. Its a beautiful thing...really is! BUT...if you HAD to...could you correlate the following... Greece == Germany == Understand if you don't want to...but again...mildly fascinated...particularly because you don't live in CA or NY. <--that shit just gets boring.
Mississippi compared Delaware i guess.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #966,243
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:15pm Mar 5, 2015 3:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} no telling what your using that battery for
Desperation lube?
  • #966,244
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:25pm Mar 5, 2015 3:25pm
Quoting kenfen69
{quote} Agreed! And NOBODY does it better in that sense. I witness it over, and over again...in person. Its a beautiful thing...really is! BUT...if you HAD to...could you correlate the following... Greece == Germany == Understand if you don't want to...but again...mildly fascinated...particularly because you don't live in CA or NY. <--that shit just gets boring.
That is an interesting thought. Here in the US things like that are seldom thought of...mostly because the govt gives money to every state. Just declare an "emergency" and the govt funds pour out. That is also why most of the states are bought and paid for by the govt....including the police forces. Noone wants to see the federal funds dry up....so they do what the feds want, and play by the fed rules. Fed being the govt, not the federal reserve.

I think in the average person's mind, its about which state has what taxes and what "freedoms". I won't move to CA or NY because of the gun rules and property costs. Period end of story. Midwest is cheaper overall, family has land in Texas....I miss the taxes (or lack there of)....will be moving back

Here is a fun list by gdp...or rather gsp...and a fun picture comparing gsp of states to other countries. Cali and Texas on top.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP
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  • #966,245
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:25pm Mar 5, 2015 3:25pm
Quoting pips4m3
{quote} Apples to oranges to compare the EU to the US. I've traveled extensively in Europe and am always struck by the stark cultural differences among Europeans. Greeks, Italians and Spaniards stick out like a sore thumb in Germany for instance, and they aren't viewed as equals by them, similar to how Hispanics are viewed here in the US (unfortunately). Also, the economies of American states evolved in a way to support the entire nation, whereas Europe's economies evolved in a global theatre. Very, very different. They've become intertwined due...
Apples and oranges (as fruits) can be correlated. Just depends on what you're correlating.

I'm WELL aware that its a little abstract...although, I'm sure my tone implied the hesitation/abstractness in the question/(potential) observation.

I've just never come across a discussion of correlation between two VERY different United/Unions. Forgive me if I've somehow pondered the impossible...un-correlateable. Perhaps if I find the reciprocal...I'll have the meaning of life?
  • #966,246
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:34pm Mar 5, 2015 3:34pm
Тhe EUR / USD finally broke below the support at 1.1150, heading to 1.0900 area and the price opened today at 1.1079 and rose slightly to 1.1114 and then continued to go down to 1.0987 and currently trading at 1.1026. But do not know if the price will stay at 1.0900 level or to continue to go down soon?
  • #966,247
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:55pm Mar 5, 2015 3:55pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} That is an interesting thought. Here in the US things like that are seldom thought of...mostly because the govt gives money to every state. Just declare an "emergency" and the govt funds pour out. That is also why most of the states are bought and paid for by the govt....including the police forces. Noone wants to see the federal funds dry up....so they do what the feds want, and play by the fed rules. Fed being the govt, not the federal reserve. I think in the average person's mind, its about which state has what taxes and what "freedoms"....
Yeah man...tis interesting stuff. Delaware at 42 on GDP is WILD!!! I'd have to put them at #1 on the most-underrated list there.

Ah sure...apples to oranges are fun, sometimes. Just a larf.
  • #966,248
  • Mar 5, 2015 3:57pm Mar 5, 2015 3:57pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} That is an interesting thought. Here in the US things like that are seldom thought of...mostly because the govt gives money to every state. Just declare an "emergency" and the govt funds pour out. That is also why most of the states are bought and paid for by the govt....including the police forces. Noone wants to see the federal funds dry up....so they do what the feds want, and play by the fed rules. Fed being the govt, not the federal reserve. I think in the average person's mind, its about which state has what taxes and what "freedoms"....
Oh yeah...second image...

I'm going Austria! All. The. Way!!!
  • #966,249
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:11pm Mar 5, 2015 4:11pm
Quoting kenfen69
{quote} Wow...interesting. One...I thought...other...completely missed!
Full house today ...like the good old times ... nice to see you around mate.

....and we roll ..but v irrelevant levels for todays roll. Very bearish close in the euro and markets aligning for an exhaustion leg down for the second part of the ECB/NFP combo.

The final leg of the zigzag in play but bulls are running out of fuel. I am clearing remaining long from the ECB play because of the failure to close near my reference level for the close (1.108x).

For the Asian session a wide range in play to 1.108x with a test of lows naked for Europe opening range before they give us the last hint before NFP and send the euro to sleep until the news. Untradable intraday levels at these area but map for the NFP play and more importantly the next swing leg are getting well defined now...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #966,250
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:17pm Mar 5, 2015 4:17pm
UC could be in the process of rolling over note I said could be !! (4hr)
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  • #966,251
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:18pm Mar 5, 2015 4:18pm
Quoting Abdul2012
Тhe EUR / USD finally broke below the support at 1.1150, heading to 1.0900 area and the price opened today at 1.1079 and rose slightly to 1.1114 and then continued to go down to 1.0987 and currently trading at 1.1026. But do not know if the price will stay at 1.0900 level or to continue to go down soon?
Well read, mofo!

Thanks for the blow by blow! Keep at it!
  • #966,252
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:21pm Mar 5, 2015 4:21pm
well, after this nice day in indices, i´m placing a bet on good old € befor going to bed:

short @1,10303 sl -20 tp +60

good night!
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #966,253
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:28pm Mar 5, 2015 4:28pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Full house today ...like the good old times ... nice to see you around mate

... sisse
Been working with two particular fellas of late that remind me of you, sisse. Can't beat...and always miss...a great mind! Very happy to see you still about...was fearing the worst.

Trust all is well...and look forward your inner workings again soon.

Much love...and respect.

Ken
  • #966,254
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:34pm Mar 5, 2015 4:34pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i did 7, years ago. i recall there rare. i assume 8 and 9 are way out there. not impossible, just unlikely. its still early in the month, at the end if far from the open. we can take a shot. on even a green doji.. with a long upper wick..
I just took a look and it appears this is a first. It also looks to be by far the most it has ever dropped without having an up month, by around 500 pips probably. It was 4000 pips from the start of this drop until today.

In the run up from .8250 in 2000 until peaking in 2008 at 1.6000 we had about 7,750 total pips, with 2 large retracements of around 1000 pips. There was one massive retracement of nearly 2000 pips. All three of these were centered in the "middle" of the trend.

We have now gone 4000 pips in just a year. It took 8 years to go 7,750 pips. There were three 1000+ pip retracements along the way. The very worst we have had to deal with have been at most 250 to 300 pips from a quick look.

I am not bullish at all, but it might be time to be slightly weary of something bigger than we've seen so far. I wonder who was vacuuming up all the sell orders when we dipped below 1.10 earlier today. We could easily see a retracement of 500+ pips before we ever reach parity and beyond.
  • #966,255
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:39pm Mar 5, 2015 4:39pm
Quoting teddybomber
{quote} I just took a look and it appears this is a first. It also looks to be by far the most it has ever dropped without having an up month, by around 500 pips probably. It was 4000 pips from the start of this drop until today. In the run up from .8250 in 2000 until peaking in 2008 at 1.6000 we had about 7,750 total pips, with 2 large retracements of around 1000 pips. There was one massive retracement of nearly 2000 pips. All three of these were centered in the "middle" of the trend. We have now gone 4000 pips in just a year. It took 8 years to...
that's why nobody is being brave
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #966,256
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:41pm Mar 5, 2015 4:41pm
Quoting teddybomber
{quote} I just took a look and it appears this is a first...
Well rsearched, tb! Nice.
  • #966,257
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:45pm Mar 5, 2015 4:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that's why nobody is being brave
Who wants a fist when they've been promised a finger ? ? ?



Sorry...incoming...again.
  • #966,258
  • Mar 5, 2015 4:50pm Mar 5, 2015 4:50pm
Quoting teddybomber
{quote} I just took a look and it appears this is a first. It also looks to be by far the most it has ever dropped without having an up month, by around 500 pips probably. It was 4000 pips from the start of this drop until today. In the run up from .8250 in 2000 until peaking in 2008 at 1.6000 we had about 7,750 total pips, with 2 large retracements of around 1000 pips. There was one massive retracement of nearly 2000 pips. All three of these were centered in the "middle" of the trend. We have now gone 4000 pips in just a year. It took 8 years to...
do you know that during the same range levels in the euro in 2003 we have 10 consecutive green bars?...

I wouldn't get to obsessed with the number of bars in the past. The colour of the bars is just in the eye of beholder...Context is more important than the number of consecutive bars with one colour...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #966,259
  • Mar 5, 2015 5:31pm Mar 5, 2015 5:31pm
Quoting sisse
{quote}Context is more important than the number of consecutive bars with one colour... sisse
True-true.

The greens never seem to come close to the reds, though. The punishing moves always seem to be south-bound on this pair...for whatever reason.
  • #966,260
  • Mar 5, 2015 5:54pm Mar 5, 2015 5:54pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
{quote} nope was pure TA she hit 1hr resistance 7606 tried twice then dumped if go out to 4hr it also formed a bigger double top, pretty standard pa aussie trying to catch up but this weeks open holding her back , she is compressing into a major decision zone if she keeps rolling east cable similar pa stuck between todays open and 5225 ping pong ping pong UC is most interesting either building a base at support or grinding support for dump, if dump ist should be a biggy
In simple terms then, what doesn't go up, must come down

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