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  • #581
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:52pm Feb 25, 2015 7:52pm
Quoting Kenergy
{quote} I agree with Jay, go somewhere so people who want to talk trading don't have to deal with your distractions.
why dont ou check penguin traders and see there the type of trading these guys made ,,,,,,,,,or are you in the same boat with the next generation of super traders? hahaha
  • #582
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:55pm Feb 25, 2015 7:55pm
Anyway it seens some are just to stupid to open the eyes ...hope my post will help some newbies not to fall on their traps goodbye and i hope u will make a lot of money and live happy ,,,,
  • #583
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:56pm Feb 25, 2015 7:56pm
There is an ignore button ..... You know???
  • #584
  • Feb 25, 2015 8:04pm Feb 25, 2015 8:04pm
Well Jay, care to post any examples of what you are looking at this week?
  • #585
  • Feb 25, 2015 8:15pm Feb 25, 2015 8:15pm
Quoting FX-Jay
Wow! this thread looks like a ghost town The fact that this thread got completely paralyzed makes me believe that almost everyone gave up on the idea. Personally I haven't. So if there is still some interest left I'd be more than happy to participate, if not .. then be it

i am referring from the other forum the one has been put in the bin ?????????????
oh oh are you surprised many from the clan did claim to found the holy grail but never ever show how they do it they say do not expect to bring all in a silver platter many did confused us saying read read read the trade we did have only hope has drop oh water in the ocean let be honest many did bull???????????????? then saying they did doubled they account in a week and expecting to get the million very soon .
we are not children we are respectful peoples or ready to learn but honestly we did learn nothing only confusing running in circle let say if i did discover the holy grail would for sure put in the forum then explain how to do it then will hide to enjoy my millions travelling etc but will never show again my self on FOREX FACTORY
i am very very puzzle the one or did say making so much money still all over the forum for what? just to show up how good they are .
please the one read that be a GENTLEMEN if you are so good at trading then show how you do it if not just go away do not stressed us to found out your meaning or the puzzle???
thanks
have a very good day under the sun.
  • #586
  • Feb 25, 2015 8:17pm Feb 25, 2015 8:17pm
Quoting Kenergy
Well Jay, care to post any examples of what you are looking at this week?
I'm just waiting for the mad guy to 'warn' others before I post something

Because apparently it is important to have a warning sign between every 2 posts.
I have a feeling that his aim is to actually promote for that website he keeps mentioning using a very weak form of reverse psychology.

On all cases I'm pretty sure that there will be quite of few like him/her that will pop up and disrupt the conversation and turn it into a drama again.
The best solution is to create a new thread for useful trading discussion and keep for them this playground to run around and shout/challenge/nag or whatever.

I'll hopefully setup a thread during the weekend
  • #587
  • Feb 25, 2015 8:36pm Feb 25, 2015 8:36pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} I'm just waiting for the mad guy to 'warn' others before I post something Because apparently it is important to have a warning sign between every 2 posts. I have a feeling that his aim is to actually promote for that website he keeps mentioning using a very weak form of reverse psychology. On all cases I'm pretty sure that there will be quite of few like him/her that will pop up and disrupt the conversation and turn it into a drama again. The best solution is to create a new thread for useful trading discussion and keep for them this...
New thread? I'm on board!!!
I have been a contributor at that 'other' website and I can tell you that no one there has any beef with you Jay. Quite the opposite, people there have been trying to develop the idea further without any negative posts. However this has now unfortunately run out of steam due to the small user group and the fact TZ's ARE NOT A HOLY GRAIL, its just a way of looking at the market. You still need to understand the market dynamics behind it. Any decent trader knows that there is no holy grail.

Very keen to have an intelligent conversation about trading TZ's.
Enough police work, I dont need to hear that someone is trying to take my money! FFS, this is Forex, everybody is trying to take my money. Lets get down to business.
What's it all about? It's all about money.
  • #588
  • Feb 25, 2015 8:56pm Feb 25, 2015 8:56pm
Quoting Innate
{quote} New thread? I'm on board!!! I have been a contributor at that 'other' website and I can tell you that no one there has any beef with you Jay. Quite the opposite, people there have been trying to develop the idea further without any negative posts. However this has now unfortunately run out of steam due to the small user group and the fact TZ's ARE NOT A HOLY GRAIL, its just a way of looking at the market. You still need to understand the market dynamics behind it. Any decent trader knows that there is no holy grail. Very keen to have an...
In the end of the day trust me I don't care who likes me and who doesn't. I came here from day one to learn and contribute. If there was nothing to learn then I wouldn't have bothered to even create a profile on FF.

Some people insist that if you make good results, then you are hiding a secret or a holy grail and just showing off.
The amount of improvement I have done to the whole idea in the last 6 months is incredible, and this wouldn't have happened without the help of some amazing members I have met here (excellent coders, great trades, and brilliant minds). If it wasn't for the good results or the potential of the idea these people that I'm so grateful to have worked with wouldn't have bothered to step-up, they wouldn't even know who the hell FX-JAY is.

I'm not here to let out a secret. There is no secret! (for the millionth time)
Whoever thinks this is a holy grail, and expects to learn without contributing, then I'm sorry to tell you that you're not welcome, this simply isn't your place.
To those people I say, nag as much as you want, all I can wish you is the best
  • #589
  • Feb 25, 2015 9:15pm Feb 25, 2015 9:15pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} In the end of the day trust me I don't care who likes me and who doesn't. I came here from day one to learn and contribute. If there was nothing to learn then I wouldn't have bothered to even create a profile on FF. Some people insist that if you make good results, then you are hiding a secret or a holy grail and just showing off. The amount of improvement I have done to the whole idea in the last 6 months is incredible, and this wouldn't have happened without the help of some amazing members I have met here (excellent coders, great trades,...
Hi bro

long time no see.

we have moved here penguintraders dot com

We have resumed the idea，I wonder if you would like to join us.

thx a lot.
  • #590
  • Feb 25, 2015 9:27pm Feb 25, 2015 9:27pm
Quoting FX-Jay
Wow! this thread looks like a ghost town The fact that this thread got completely paralyzed makes me believe that almost everyone gave up on the idea. Personally I haven't. So if there is still some interest left I'd be more than happy to participate, if not .. then be it

I have not had the ability to do what I wanted using these in actual trading. The important thing about what I learned and researched because of these threads has lead me to a path in other professions. Markov, HMM, Markov/correlations to help create models for some of the companies I work and have worked for to make a better life for me and my family. That is paying the bills while I learn and study more on what some of this means to me in the markets. I have ideas, just need to learn how to determine if they are profitable. Lots and lots of work. This is also something that other people can learn. Don't wait on a hand out, go and study the information and try to learn it on your own. Think about how it can be used to work in your daily lives to solve problems and build models around it in your head. Before you know it, you will start to see things in your everyday life that will amaze you. So far I have started to take courses learning how to program and have enrolled back in college to further my math knowledge.

I wish everyone a good luck on all journeys to prosperity, however you choose to get there.
A woman drove me to drink, and I forgot to thank her
  • #591
  • Feb 25, 2015 9:31pm Feb 25, 2015 9:31pm
Quoting blueface
{quote} Hi bro long time no see. we have moved here penguintraders dot com We have resumed the idea，I wonder if you would like to join us. thx a lot.
Hey mate,

I'd rather stay on FF. I see the majority of the concept's initiators still here, so no point of moving elsewhere.

As for the naggers that will constantly try to disrupt the useful conversations, I'll make sure to take care of them.
I'm not very familiar with the FF rules/policies of threads, but I'm sure there will be a way to block users or at least comments that don't have the minimum level of intelligence and/or respect.

I'll check that before starting a new thread
  • #592
  • Feb 25, 2015 9:38pm Feb 25, 2015 9:38pm
Quoting simpleguy
{quote} I have not had the ability to do what I wanted using these in actual trading. The important thing about what I learned and researched because of these threads has lead me to a path in other professions. Markov, HMM, Markov/correlations to help create models for some of the companies I work and have worked for to make a better life for me and my family. That is paying the bills while I learn and study more on what some of this means to me in the markets. I have ideas, just need to learn how to determine if they are profitable. Lots and lots...
I wish everyone will take a moment and read this ^

I couldn't say it any better
  • #593
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:03pm Feb 25, 2015 10:03pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} In the end of the day trust me I don't care who likes me and who doesn't. I came here from day one to learn and contribute. If there was nothing to learn then I wouldn't have bothered to even create a profile on FF. Some people insist that if you make good results, then you are hiding a secret or a holy grail and just showing off. The amount of improvement I have done to the whole idea in the last 6 months is incredible, and this wouldn't have happened without the help of some amazing members I have met here (excellent coders, great trades,...


Agreed


Now let's get the conversation motor back on!!! Now what i'm thinking. What if direction towards the possible recurrent zone could be derived from the open interest ratio from currency options/futures. I think the EA use on the Matrix grid trader forum gives us this ratio. Now once you spot the PTZ you open that EA for directin of open interest and if that jives with the direction the PTZ is in, set the EA to trade. If it goes against the direction it will open grid trades based on your settings and when it finally hits the targeted price we are in the MONEY!!!!


THOUGHTS????
Solutions ONLY!!!
  • #594
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:03pm Feb 25, 2015 10:03pm
[quote= a way to block users--I'll check that before starting a new thread[/quote]

yes indeed if you start a tread you can block anyone from that tread ;o ..

..looking foreword to it mate
Learn THEN Unlearn
  • #595
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:11pm Feb 25, 2015 10:11pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Hey mate, I'd rather stay on FF. I see the majority of the concept's initiators still here, so no point of moving elsewhere. As for the naggers that will constantly try to disrupt the useful conversations, I'll make sure to take care of them. I'm not very familiar with the FF rules/policies of threads, but I'm sure there will be a way to block users or at least comments that don't have the minimum level of intelligence and/or respect. I'll check that before starting a new thread
Hi Jay

No problem,good luck

Best Wish.
  • #596
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:19pm Feb 25, 2015 10:19pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} I wish everyone will take a moment and read this ^ I couldn't say it any better
Nice to see you again FXjay. im in onyour threadbtw ihave a chart could u review it jay ? is this how you would trade ? i try plotting on all chart based on your previous post hopefully i got something to work with
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  • #597
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:26pm Feb 25, 2015 10:26pm
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Agreed Now let's get the conversation motor back on!!! Now what i'm thinking. What if direction towards the possible recurrent zone could be derived from the open interest ratio from currency options/futures. I think the EA use on the Matrix grid trader forum gives us this ratio. Now once you spot the PTZ you open that EA for directin of open interest and if that jives with the direction the PTZ is in, set the EA to trade. If it goes against the direction it will open grid trades based on your settings and when it finally hits...
That's the kind of additions I'm talking about!!
Thanks Bill, I believe that's a very smart idea that is worth digging into.

Recently I've been working on adding 'currency strength' to the system, but haven't thought of adding Open Interest to that. I believe that should be a profitable tool specially if used on highers TFs.

Do some testings, and let's go deeper into it once the thread is up
  • #598
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:29pm Feb 25, 2015 10:29pm
Quoting edgartan
{quote} Nice to see you again FXjay. im in onyour threadbtw ihave a chart could u review it jay ? is this how you would trade ? i try plotting on all chart based on your previous post hopefully i got something to work with {image}
Can you please explain a little more what is going on on that chart?
i.e. reasons for entry , TP , and SL
  • #599
  • Feb 25, 2015 10:31pm Feb 25, 2015 10:31pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} That's the kind of additions I'm talking about!! Thanks Bill, I believe that's a very smart idea that is worth digging into. Recently I've been working on adding 'currency strength' to the system, but haven't thought of adding Open Interest to that. I believe that should be a profitable tool specially if used on highers TFs. Do some testings, and let's go deeper into it once the thread is up


Ok great.

Will do
Solutions ONLY!!!
  • #600
  • Feb 25, 2015 11:22pm Feb 25, 2015 11:22pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} In the end of the day trust me I don't care who likes me and who doesn't. I came here from day one to learn and contribute. If there was nothing to learn then I wouldn't have bothered to even create a profile on FF. Some people insist that if you make good results, then you are hiding a secret or a holy grail and just showing off. The amount of improvement I have done to the whole idea in the last 6 months is incredible, and this wouldn't have happened without the help of some amazing members I have met here (excellent coders, great trades,...

maybe you did make improvement with your contribution we do not denied that at all but you have enough brain to understand all , but many of us do not understand the concept but if we ask we got the reply read read and read again some laugh at us but we do not get it yet so i would say his discrimination .the clever one or did create a profile at FF or used a very successful system do not elaborated enough on it so do not be surprised all dead?????
anywhere thanks for your very valuable contribution
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