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  • #1,581
  • Feb 23, 2015 7:47am Feb 23, 2015 7:47am
Quoting BillYon
LETS GET IT!!! So here is the idea I have been testing. Those who do not have version 1.0 will have to manually do this until it's implemented as an option if it is at all. So your in the middle of a trade and the trend changes. Like right now on EU... Since it will continue taking trades against this new trend change, what you do is leave that to continue as is. Have a second chart opened with version 1.0 set the same or as you find more profitable/less risky in testing this. At trend change Activate the second chart to start taking trades in direction...

all of these can be solved if GT only makes new version where we can short and long in different chart for same pair for version 1.1 ... its that easy..
the idea is amazing and it will keep our account hedge forever with the minimal DD ever .

I tried to make it before with ver 1.1 only long and only short on same pair in different charts , but the ver 1.1 didnt enter any
  • #1,582
  • Feb 23, 2015 7:56am Feb 23, 2015 7:56am
Quoting Justin
{quote} Simply stunning BillYon. I like this idea. I am not sure how it will perform but the concept looks encouraging. Trapping the price between two levels will ensure collecting green pips all the way. Will definitely give it a go on demo.
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  • #1,583
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:05am Feb 23, 2015 8:05am
it sounds good guys, but, i dont think is a good ideea to hedge all this, how and when you close the oposit trades? you must to cut one part of them no? its dangeros i think.
  • #1,584
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:12am Feb 23, 2015 8:12am
Quoting shum
it sounds good guys, but, i dont think is a good ideea to hedge all this, how and when you close the oposit trades? you must to cut one part of them no? its dangeros i think.

That's why I said just test the Idea.

It's is risky and will require management as is.

But it's open for discussion to find faults

It is dangerous currently without some fixes and testing of different settings. It will be interesting to see what you guys input for different results.
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  • #1,585
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:15am Feb 23, 2015 8:15am
Quoting shum
it sounds good guys, but, i dont think is a good ideea to hedge all this, how and when you close the oposit trades? you must to cut one part of them no? its dangeros i think.

You don't seem to understand fully yet even without this idea.

Take some time
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  • #1,586
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:18am Feb 23, 2015 8:18am
Also the full hedge was only one of the ideas...

The other was using the idea only in trend change
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  • #1,587
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:21am Feb 23, 2015 8:21am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} You don't seem to understand fully yet even without this idea. Take some time
-))) whay you think that? the concept of EA i understand, but hedge its dangeros, meaby after some tests... one think what come in my head is...when trend show buy, you buy, after its change to sell, you open with another magic number sell trades, and stay in all this( and buy and sell), and waiting for new trend change..and in this moment you close all the trades and buy and sell..and start from the begin in the last trend change just with buy or just with sell..
i think the best solution.
  • #1,588
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:28am Feb 23, 2015 8:28am
Quoting shum
{quote} -))) whay you think that? the concept of EA i understand, but hedge its dangeros, meaby after some tests... one think what come in my head is...when trend show buy, you buy, after its change to sell, you open with another magic number sell trades, and stay in all this( and buy and sell), and waiting for new trend change..and in this moment you close all the trades and buy and sell..and start from the begin in the last trend change just with buy or just with sell.. i think the best solution.

The best solution will be seen in forward test.

So go for it and lets all compare for the best results.
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  • #1,589
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:32am Feb 23, 2015 8:32am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} The best solution will be seen in forward test. So go for it and lets all compare for the best results.
well..the problem is that we dont have another EA, like you have the first version, to make this test, so its all on your hends..and we just stay and wait the results from you.
  • #1,590
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:34am Feb 23, 2015 8:34am
Currently testing portfolio of 5 pairs with .01 lots, default, demo 2500$, So 500$ each. EU/USD, USD/CAD, GBP/USD, USD/JPY, AUD/USD. Will post results. :-)
  • #1,591
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:45am Feb 23, 2015 8:45am
Quoting shum
{quote} well..the problem is that we dont have another EA, like you have the first version, to make this test, so its all on your hends..and we just stay and wait the results from you.

So then why are you even commenting?

What Googletrader presented in his EA is not the idea I just shared. Stick to the EA as is and test whatever you can. I presented 3 ideas. You are just focusing on one.

No one here needs to wait for results from me. We do our own testing. Also some still have both versions. I clearly stated that.

I've have been here in the background since he first opened the thread trying all types of stuff. You can do the same with what you have. Many are already making green pips without doing these ideas. So why not put your focus away from anything I share.
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  • #1,592
  • Feb 23, 2015 8:46am Feb 23, 2015 8:46am
Quoting JoshuaHope
Currently testing portfolio of 5 pairs with .01 lots, default, demo 2500$, So 500$ each. EU/USD, USD/CAD, GBP/USD, USD/JPY, AUD/USD. Will post results. :-)
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  • #1,593
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:00am Feb 23, 2015 9:00am
Quoting BillYon
Now for the fun stuff. If you use ver 1.1 and 1.0 in opposite directions on the same pair. When one goes into DD the other is making pips along the way Lets Get the setting optimized and meet in Tahiti The lot size can virtually be the same because it's pseudo hedging...in a way You will see price trapped between 2 target prices nearly all the time unless a target recently was taken out. Hey Spyderman you sparked this idea!!!! Thanks!!! Test test test...No live on this please!!! Lets iron out the kinks first!!! {image} {image}

Okay, let's optimize this beast.

So assuming you have version 1.1 and 1.0 you want to set up one version to trade long (when the trend is of course up) and the other to trade short.
So let's call 1.1 long and 1.0 short.

So you have a grid open in 1.1 long and trend changes to short, so now you start trading that on 1.0
So what to do with 1.1...
You can continue allowing "Trendchange" to take long entries to shorten your TP (using whatever multiplier you've optimized)...or...
You can put "Trendchange" to 0 so no more long trades to create more DD...or...
You can put "Trendchange" to 0 and hedge the original longs so that grid is essentially frozen...

Opinions?
  • #1,594
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:02am Feb 23, 2015 9:02am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} So then why are you even commenting? What Googletrader presented in his EA is not the idea I just shared. Stick to the EA as is and test whatever you can. I presented 3 ideas. You are just focusing on one. No one here needs to wait for results from me. We do our own testing. Also some still have both versions. I clearly stated that. I've have been here in the background since he first opened the thread trying all types of stuff. You can do the same with what you have. Many are already making green pips without doing these ideas. So why not...
GT is listening to us but does nothing
  • #1,595
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:04am Feb 23, 2015 9:04am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} So then why are you even commenting? What Googletrader presented in his EA is not the idea I just shared. Stick to the EA as is and test whatever you can. I presented 3 ideas. You are just focusing on one. No one here needs to wait for results from me. We do our own testing. Also some still have both versions. I clearly stated that. I've have been here in the background since he first opened the thread trying all types of stuff. You can do the same with what you have. Many are already making green pips without doing these ideas. So why not...
.wow..whay you are so angry? you give this idea on this topic, for what or for whom? i think for all traders ho share this EA, no?..
i wasnt from start...and what now? im interesting in your idea of hedge with 2 EAs, (i dont speak about my ideas and how Ea work in default mode, i now how its work...., we speak about your idea now) coz i wasnt from start and i dont have it( first version)..this is whay i have questions, and coment your idea... you understand what i mean? ..so be calm..the point is if you give the idea, i think you must to make test and be able to share it with us, if you whant.. this is all..
but never main..forget what i say or ask...ignore me.
  • #1,596
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:05am Feb 23, 2015 9:05am
Quoting madscalp
{quote} GT is listening to us but does nothing
Hasnt he done enough? ;-)
  • #1,597
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:06am Feb 23, 2015 9:06am
Quoting madscalp
{quote} GT is listening to us but does nothing

I think he is collecting data...
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  • #1,598
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:12am Feb 23, 2015 9:12am
I've just signed up for a new VPS and installed ver 1.1
Unfortunately the EA is not able to recognize the trend and does not take any trades
As you can see in the attached image it shows UNKNOWN on all the charts
Any suggestions on what could be the reason for this?

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  • #1,599
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:15am Feb 23, 2015 9:15am
Quoting spyderman
{quote} Okay, let's optimize this beast. So assuming you have version 1.1 and 1.0 you want to set up one version to trade long (when the trend is of course up) and the other to trade short. So let's call 1.1 long and 1.0 short. So you have a grid open in 1.1 long and trend changes to short, so now you start trading that on 1.0 So what to do with 1.1... You can continue allowing "Trendchange" to take long entries to shorten your TP (using whatever multiplier you've optimized)...or... You can put "Trendchange" to 0 so no more long trades to create...

I'm testing that last option as well.
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  • #1,600
  • Feb 23, 2015 9:15am Feb 23, 2015 9:15am
Quoting BillYon
{quote}
Just started a parallel test, same portfolio on different demo with autostep false and autoinitialstep false. Lets see how they compare.
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