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  • #1,481
  • Feb 22, 2015 2:31am Feb 22, 2015 2:31am
Quoting JoshuaHope
{quote} Those are great results Mario. My idea was to force sell / buy only option, but then the ea doesnt want to initiate any trades as they do not agree with its trend mechanism. I observed it take buy orders on E/U when i would have been selling...yet somehow it manages to break even / make money. Mario, can you please explain how you move your TP. I am trying to understand how it works. The key to it in my opinion is how accurate it is in its trend assesment. Overall, its a great EA. GJ GT and thanks.
Joshua, im sorry I did not saw your post. I dont really have any full idea how the EA works. But based on my obesrvation with the EA how it operates, it move its TP on the place beyond BE. That means when TP hit, its will have winner more than losser.
  • #1,482
  • Feb 22, 2015 2:35am Feb 22, 2015 2:35am
Quoting blamshakk
weird i just loaded it up on an fxopen platform, same thing happened no trend detection . i put it down to mayb because its a weekend, but now you're saying its showing the trend. really dont know whats going on here {quote}
blamshakk maybe the problem is in your end. Mine is fine and running even if its weekend. Im using GP too. Try to reinstall your MT4 as Billyon advise or try to restart your machine or reinstall the fresh EA
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  • #1,483
  • Feb 22, 2015 3:24am Feb 22, 2015 3:24am
Quoting blamshakk
weird i just loaded it up on an fxopen platform, same thing happened no trend detection . i put it down to mayb because its a weekend, but now you're saying its showing the trend. really dont know whats going on here {quote}

Got a secondary system to load it on?
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  • #1,484
  • Feb 22, 2015 3:26am Feb 22, 2015 3:26am
hi...arbinka trade explorer is using default settings?
  • #1,485
  • Feb 22, 2015 4:19am Feb 22, 2015 4:19am
Quoting mario777
{quote} Joshua, im sorry I did not saw your post. I dont really have any full idea how the EA works. But based on my obesrvation with the EA how it operates, it move its TP on the place beyond BE. That means when TP hit, its will have winner more than losser.
Thank you Mario. I posted that post early, but as a junior member, ff moderates my posts and its the weekend, so it took them a long time to post.
I am also trying to manually test trade this way, as it is very succesful. Trend is the hey here. I have observed it for only a short time, but It seems as if its getting trend data from/for a much higher timeframe, hence the DD. GT has stated it does not rely on any technical indicator. But hey, it works out well.

Note to all on live acc. - be careful using it with EU/USD this week as much volatility is expected due to the Greek issue. My broker even sent me a warning.

Have a good Sunday all.

I am just a noob trying to understand more. Joshua
  • #1,486
  • Feb 22, 2015 4:22am Feb 22, 2015 4:22am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Got a secondary system to load it on?

hey billyon. i backtested nzdusd on admiral markets with your settings a few posts ago but get different results. which broker do u use ?
  • #1,487
  • Edited 6:06am Feb 22, 2015 5:42am | Edited 6:06am
Quoting tikku
{quote} hey billyon. i backtested nzdusd on admiral markets with your settings a few posts ago but get different results. which broker do u use ?

What were your results? Was your internal trend 100?

FXCM on that test

Also try short only for that period. It's the setting for forward testing i'm always after. Once I got a decent result in both longs in short (even if they blow the account in backtest after a good run up) I then put it on forward test with and the bells and whistles of the Community trend, risk management and whatnot.


Then I start thinking of other uses or combinations like looking at the daily technical trend and setting the EA for trades in that direction only. It will not trade the opposite direction after trend change. It will basically pause and wait for the EA to return to the direction of the greater trend to continue.

Another promising setting I'm seeing today is

Step 5
TP 4
lot 0.01 for every 500 dollars
multi 1.0

EUR/USD

150% gain

Tested long/short and short only since November 2014 and have beautiful results!!! Try it out...

Will also blow if unmanaged but we have to see if the community trend makes it even more successful. I think it will.
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  • #1,488
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:03am Feb 22, 2015 6:03am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} What were your results? Was your internal tren 100? FXCM on that test
yes. but not even half of the 1600$ . will check on fxcm now.
  • #1,489
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:25am Feb 22, 2015 6:25am
Quoting tikku
{quote} yes. but not even half of the 1600$ . will check on fxcm now.

long and short
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  • #1,490
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:29am Feb 22, 2015 6:29am
I am a basket trader, we have in ff 2 threads about basket charts, if some body are interested. But i just whant to say, Bill says that EA must be managet, so i was think, if to use for exemple basket chart of 4 usd pairs, to see the right trend..we may go just long or short, acording to that charts.
for ex i have the chart of 4 usd pairs, i trade this chart, now on h4 its show up trend( this is mean that usd is week and other valutes are more strongers), so all this pairs must go up, one of them will go up with more volatility, another will stay and dont go anywhere...but the end of results its the same, number of pips from all toghever will be the same like in baskets chart.
In the right you see what pairs are in this chart.

https://charts.mql5.com/7/76/usd4-04...ri-limited.png
  • #1,491
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:31am Feb 22, 2015 6:31am
Quoting tikku
{quote} yes. but not even half of the 1600$ . will check on fxcm now.

Long only
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  • #1,492
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:36am Feb 22, 2015 6:36am
Quoting shum
I am a basket trader, we have in ff 2 threads about basket charts, if some body are interested. But i just whant to say, Bill says that EA must be managet, so i was think, if to use for exemple basket chart of 4 usd pairs, to see the right trend..we may go just long or short, acording to that charts. for ex i have the chart of 4 usd pairs, i trade this chart, now on h4 its show up trend( this is mean that usd is week and other valutes are more strongers), so all this pairs must go up, one of them will go up with more volatility, another will stay...


I like!
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  • #1,493
  • Feb 22, 2015 6:43am Feb 22, 2015 6:43am
USDCAD Long only test 2.5 set

Remember MGT 1.1 will provide Trend direction test just give you setting to forward test.
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  • #1,494
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:05am Feb 22, 2015 7:05am
Quoting BillYon
USDCAD Long only test 2.5 set Remember MGT 1.1 will provide Trend direction test just give you setting to forward test. {image}
how can i make a backtest in mt4 for this ea ? i've tried too much but there wasn't any result . thank you

i had sent you private message , did you saw that ?
  • #1,495
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:21am Feb 22, 2015 7:21am
Quoting shum
I am a basket trader, we have in ff 2 threads about basket charts, if some body are interested. But i just whant to say, Bill says that EA must be managet, so i was think, if to use for exemple basket chart of 4 usd pairs, to see the right trend..we may go just long or short, acording to that charts. for ex i have the chart of 4 usd pairs, i trade this chart, now on h4 its show up trend( this is mean that usd is week and other valutes are more strongers), so all this pairs must go up, one of them will go up with more volatility, another will stay...

i am very interesting in basket trading and your idea you share above. can you give example ?
  • #1,496
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:22am Feb 22, 2015 7:22am
Quoting BillYon
USDCAD Long only test 2.5 set Remember MGT 1.1 will provide Trend direction test just give you setting to forward test. {image}
Modeling quality is 25% !!!.. so weak backtest
  • #1,497
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:40am Feb 22, 2015 7:40am
Quoting steeko
{quote} Modeling quality is 25% !!!.. so weak backtest
Not so weak forward test!!!

Backtest are crap! I just use them to derive settings to forward test. So in this effect they are not weak at all. Depends on your perspective. Best you can do with standard MT4 testers on 1 minute is 25% because you only have 4 data points for modelling. OHLC

Those who would enjoy looking at a higher modelling quality will still have to forward test and prove their setting viable.
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  • #1,498
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:41am Feb 22, 2015 7:41am
Quoting 5aztv88
{quote} how can i make a backtest in mt4 for this ea ? i've tried too much but there wasn't any result . thank you i had sent you private message , did you saw that ?
You can only backtest using version 1.0

You will have to contact Googletrader concerning that
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  • #1,499
  • Feb 22, 2015 7:55am Feb 22, 2015 7:55am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Not so weak forward test!!! Backtest are crap! I just use them to derive settings to forward test. So in this effect they are not weak at all. Depends on your perspective. Best you can do with standard MT4 testers on 1 minute is 25% because you only have 4 data points for modelling. OHLC Those who would enjoy looking at a higher modelling quality will still have to forward test and prove their setting viable.
Now its clear for me

version 1 is hidden now i think.. i didnt find it anywhere as attachment. i had only version 1.1 .
  • #1,500
  • Edited 8:25am Feb 22, 2015 8:04am | Edited 8:25am
Quoting steeko
{quote} i am very interesting in basket trading and your idea you share above. can you give example ?

very simple.. the candles of this offline chart are red when trend is down, and green when trend is up. This is a indicator cci costume candle, with special parametres. So you just look on this chart H4, when is start for exm. trend up( first green candle) you must to turn matrix EA just in buy mode, and let it to buy EU, GU, AU, NU.
And sell mode when offline chart start to show red candles on h4.

for who dont understand what is basket trading i will show a real exepmle on real account..i trade baskets more than one year on real., it have EA for trading too, but i use it just for manualy enteres..so no any automatic trading. But, if to use basket chart just for see the trend...you can use your EA, to go in the same direction with the pairs what exist in the baskets charts.
exemple of basket trading( real)

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/5/5/4/Tra...8_16164554.gif

But for you matrix grid Ea you dont need all this, you just need the basket offline chart of 4 usd pairs..with some indies to see the right trend( like in my prevew post pic.)
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