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  • #401
  • Feb 16, 2015 12:16pm Feb 16, 2015 12:16pm
HA RIDER is an indicator dependent EA. It's performance is highly affected by the indicator settings.
I assume that most
testers are applying same HA/HAS settings to all pairs, which in my opinion is unfair, because each pair has different behaviour and requires different HA settings.


The EA provides such a feature which I think was neglected by many.

On the other hand and
As far as I know, the guys are still forward testing the EA and haven't reached optimum settings yet. Join the team, don't wait for others to provide good settings, find your own, share it if you wish.
No guts, no glory
  • #402
  • Feb 16, 2015 12:24pm Feb 16, 2015 12:24pm
Quoting abokwaik
HA RIDER is an indicator dependent EA. It's performance is highly affected by the indicator settings. I assume that most testers are applying same HA/HAS settings to all pairs, which in my opinion is unfair, because each pair has different behaviour and requires different HA settings. The EA provides such a feature which I think was neglected by many. On the other hand and As far as I know, the guys are still forward testing the EA and haven't reached optimum settings yet. Join the team, don't wait for others to provide good settings, find your...
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #403
  • Feb 16, 2015 12:26pm Feb 16, 2015 12:26pm
Ouch! Ty

I can see that the equity loss was hit.

no pain no gain my friend.

I think implementing the recovery exit I suggested earlier would have helped in such scenarios.
No guts, no glory
  • #404
  • Feb 16, 2015 12:30pm Feb 16, 2015 12:30pm
Quoting SignMeUP
Allright, I set up 5 clean accounts with each having a balance of 500. I use all 15 pairs for all time frames. (D1, H4, H1, M30, M15). The settings following: All filter are deactivated, The lot size stays the same, Im using fixed target and loss levels. Furthermore I activated every EA right before the london seasson 8:00 GMT (10:00 GMT for my broker) D1: Opens a order with 0.02 Lot and keeps at it till it has a reversal signal or reaches gain/loss of 100/100 as a whole. H4: Opens a order with 0.02 Lot and keeps at it till it has a reversal...


That's the spirit
No guts, no glory
  • #405
  • Feb 16, 2015 12:48pm Feb 16, 2015 12:48pm
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Hi Howa61 Thank you for this offer. The best guy to talk to about setting is TyLamai as he has been working with this system much longer my setting have only been through two days of forward testing. Im sure he will reply with where you can find them Thanks again for your time Rooi
Hello Rooi!

Well you are correct that I have "played" with HA_Rider for much longer but I only tested HA_Rider to see its limits.

I manually closed ALL positions a few minutes ago since it was in deep DD (although it still hadn't reached my 60% DD point).

Therefore I have a "new" Equity amount and a new 60% DD figure too:
Equity = $1969.52
60% DD = $787.808

The following changes will also be effected:
Upgrading to the latest HA_Rider-v7
Below is the Setfile I intend to use moving forward. Will it work? Well, we'll see won't we?

Regards,

Ty

---------------
v7 Set File:
---------------
Magic_Number=419
Time_Frame=D1
HA_Settings=Heiken Ashi Indicator Settings
Indicator_Type=HAS
HAS_MA_Method_1=2
HAS_MA_Period_1=6
HAS_MA_Method_2=2
HAS_MA_Period_2=9
Lot_Size_Controls=Lot Size Controls
Fixed_Lot_Size=0.1
Next_Lot_Factor=1.0
Lot_Size_Percentage_Of=E
Lot_Size_Percentage=0.0
Orders_Controls=Orders Controls
Min_Pips_Between_Orders=10
Max_Open_Orders=200
Closing_Options=Closing Options
Equity_Gain_Percentage=0.0
Equity_Loss_Percentage=0.0
Equity_Gain_Amount=300.0
Equity_Loss_Amount=600.0
Stop_Loss_Pips=0
Trailing_Stop_Pips=0
Trailing_Stop_Jump=10
Entry_Filters=Entry Filters
MA_Period=0
MA_Type=0
Higher_TF=D1
H_HAS_MA_Method_1=2
H_HAS_MA_Period_1=6
H_HAS_MA_Method_2=2
H_HAS_MA_Period_2=9
Miscellaneous_Options=Miscellaneous Options
Max_Seconds_to_Activate=3600
Max_Allowed_Slippage=30
Normal_or_ECN_Account=E
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #406
  • Feb 16, 2015 1:01pm Feb 16, 2015 1:01pm
Quoting abokwaik
Ouch! Ty I can see that the equity loss was hit. no pain no gain my friend. I think implementing the recovery exit I suggested earlier would have helped in such scenarios.
Yes AB correct...Earlier today I had the option of closing all over $3,500 I think...I simply let it run to see what would happen (since this is supposed to be a Test account).

Today's happenings is basically a result of trades held from Friday AND...and Monday Trading (i.e. Market yet to decide on a direction). Also the USD Holidays I think.

Anyways the account is STILL up by 90+% so let's see where that takes us?

Trading on the Daily of course requires Brass ones - lol.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #407
  • Feb 16, 2015 1:19pm Feb 16, 2015 1:19pm
Quoting Rooi
Hi Guys I am currently updating the first post. I will be adding a summary in the beginning of everyone who has a n explorer they want to share. Please PM me the link or quote this post in the reply when sharing your http-address for the explorer Happy pipping for the week I have plenty om plate this week with normal trading and so on so will try and be around as often as possible Good Luck To All For The Week Rooi
Here is one little suggestion from me, I am not sure if it is applicable or not. Suppose HA is giving long signal and EA opens long position, is there any way to find out that after how many pips of DD (means if price suddenly go down) HA will give opposite signal?

If answer is yes then you guys should place pending sell order at this position and then continue placing orders according to regular EA.

According to my observation, your system has higher DD because if any news move market 50-100 pips opposite to your current positions and gives sell signal but then come back up. Mostly NFP reaction is same as I mentioned.
Love for all; Hatred for none.
  • #408
  • Feb 16, 2015 1:19pm Feb 16, 2015 1:19pm
Hey Abokwaik and Rooi...(and other "Mad" scientists in da hood),

As I was typing the above, an idea HIT me...I can't say if it's a good one or not - or even if it's Worth exploring but the idea came after I read this line by you AB:

Quote
applying same HA/HAS settings to all pairs, which in my opinion is unfair, because each pair has different behaviour and requires different HA settings

So...what about applying Different HA/HAS settings to the SAME pair...e.g. EURUSD:

#1. Open say...10 - 15 different EURUSD D1 Charts
#2. Apply Different HA/HAS settings to EACH EU D1 Chart (EACH having a UNIQUE Magic Number to handle HA/HAS changes?)
#3. Allow all positions run - allowing ONLY a HA/HAS trend direction change be the EXIT trigger
#4. Maybe at the end of the (week/month?) we see WHERE it has gotten us? (Or closing all positions manually only after a 100% ROI? I dunno yet).

Please note that am thinking out loud as this idea just hit me. So I may settle down and later realize it total nonsense! Lol...

Anyways, can you guys "analyze" it and let's see the demerits and merits (if any)?

I'm thinking this would be more like a "Basket of Medium/Long term trades" or so.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #409
  • Feb 16, 2015 1:45pm Feb 16, 2015 1:45pm
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Yes AB correct...Earlier today I had the option of closing all over $3,500 I think...I simply let it run to see what would happen (since this is supposed to be a Test account). Today's happenings is basically a result of trades held from Friday AND...and Monday Trading (i.e. Market yet to decide on a direction). Also the USD Holidays I think. Anyways the account is STILL up by 90+% so let's see where that takes us? Trading on the Daily of course requires Brass ones - lol. Regards, Ty
often times fridays move gets reversed sharply from suday open like today.

from monday till friday the market is much more even/predictable.

and i think its the best to enter at 00 actually a bit after to miss the spread widening and then try to exit the basket after london session, or better yet before ny starts.
ny just like sunday to monday often reverses a move.

so the idea being profit from londons move and get out, reenter before asian session and do this on monday till thursday. also i never hold any live trades over the weekend, one never knows what gap there might be.
  • #410
  • Feb 16, 2015 2:10pm Feb 16, 2015 2:10pm
Put EA on 11 pairs and will come back with the results in the end of the week.
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  • #411
  • Feb 16, 2015 2:19pm Feb 16, 2015 2:19pm
Quoting TyLamai
Hey Abokwaik and Rooi...(and other "Mad" scientists in da hood), As I was typing the above, an idea HIT me...I can't say if it's a good one or not - or even if it's Worth exploring but the idea came after I read this line by you AB: {quote} So...what about applying Different HA/HAS settings to the SAME pair...e.g. EURUSD: #1. Open say...10 - 15 different EURUSD D1 Charts #2. Apply Different HA/HAS settings to EACH EU D1 Chart (EACH having a UNIQUE Magic Number to handle HA/HAS changes?) #3. Allow all positions run - allowing ONLY a HA/HAS trend...

Yes Ty, although this will increase exposure to one currency, we can use smaller leverage. This can be back tested on mt4 since we're using just one pair, with slight modification on the EA.

Good night,
No guts, no glory
  • #412
  • Feb 16, 2015 2:21pm Feb 16, 2015 2:21pm
Quoting alex8585
Put EA on 11 pairs and will come back with the results in the end of the week. {image}
Good job Alex.
No guts, no glory
  • #413
  • Feb 16, 2015 2:32pm Feb 16, 2015 2:32pm
Quoting aahmad29
{quote} Here is one little suggestion from me, I am not sure if it is applicable or not. Suppose HA is giving long signal and EA opens long position, is there any way to find out that after how many pips of DD (means if price suddenly go down) HA will give opposite signal? If answer is yes then you guys should place pending sell order at this position and then continue placing orders according to regular EA. According to my observation, your system has higher DD because if any news move market 50-100 pips opposite to your current positions and gives...
If I know in advance when HA will reverse I would've been millionaire by now.

That doesn't necessarily mean I'm not
No guts, no glory
  • #414
  • Feb 16, 2015 3:03pm Feb 16, 2015 3:03pm
the wheel turn
I dont quite understand why you didnt backtest this ea on the metaquote history
and I suggest you open 1000 demo accounts with differents params
so with chance you'll get a beautifull trade explorer winner that you can show to everybody
  • #415
  • Feb 16, 2015 3:57pm Feb 16, 2015 3:57pm
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} If I know in advance when HA will reverse I would've been millionaire by now. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm not
I don't mean that in advance. Normally there are different trading systems who give you buy and sell signals. Suppose I use one system and when it gives me buy signal then I know that how much down movement will generate sell signal so I placed pending sell order to save my account from any unexpected movement.

But as you said that it is not possible so it was just my idea.

Wish you good luck for trading.
Love for all; Hatred for none.
  • #416
  • Feb 16, 2015 6:02pm Feb 16, 2015 6:02pm
I have been forward testing the HA_Rider_07 (with the update manually entered) with a basket of 14 pairs. I have noticed that at the opening of the new daily candle, my broker tends to have very wide spreads, so I have modified the EA to wait until the spread narrows back down to a multiple of the average spread before it opens a new order.Hopefully this will give me some better results with some of the crosses. I will track it for the rest of the week and report back how it is performing. If it is performing as designed, I will pass along the new code.

I have also back-tested and optimized each pair with their own parameters to see if the results are better or worse than blanket set parameters for all pairs. Again I will report back with my findings.

GREEN pips to one and all.
  • #417
  • Feb 17, 2015 12:12am Feb 17, 2015 12:12am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} Yes Ty, although this will increase exposure to one currency, we can use smaller leverage. This can be back tested on mt4 since we're using just one pair, with slight modification on the EA. Good night,
Hey AB,

I'm sure you did not notice that the FF Admin "suddenly" tagged me a commercial member right after my previous post.

I was in the process of adding a Chart to buttress my point concerning multiple EURUSD charts with different HA/HAS settings when I noticed I could no longer post. Immediately I sent a complaints message to Twee (FF Admin).

As at this moment I am yet to hear from Twee - and then I noticed that the WHOLE HA_Rider (A Robots Lab EA) Thread has now been moved to the "Commercial Content" Section of FF.

This WHOLE episode is amazing since (as far as I can tell) I haven't even thought about selling anything nor have I seen any sales offer on this Thread.

Well, I guess we have all seen this happen Many times before.

Will be on the sidelines watching to see how this plays out.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #418
  • Feb 17, 2015 12:26am Feb 17, 2015 12:26am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hey AB, I'm sure you did not notice that the FF Admin "suddenly" tagged me a commercial member right after my previous post. I was in the process of adding a Chart to buttress my point concerning multiple EURUSD charts with different HA/HAS settings when I noticed I could no longer post. Immediately I sent a complaints message to Twee (FF Admin). As at this moment I am yet to hear from Twee - and then I noticed that the WHOLE HA_Rider (A Robots Lab EA) Thread has now been moved to the "Commercial Content" Section of FF. This WHOLE episode...

I have update this first post to reflect that this is a non-commercial thread.

Glad you contacted Twee.

Please let us know how it goes otherwise I / we-all can write to him to find out what is going on.

Someone must have reported you / us for no bloody reason.Best we stay as neutral and calm as possible

Let see what happens by the end of the week as it can sometimes takes a couple of days for Twee to get round to everything.

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #419
  • Feb 17, 2015 12:27am Feb 17, 2015 12:27am
nothing surprised me from FOREX FACTORY they are a bunch of ?????????????????//
  • #420
  • Feb 17, 2015 12:42am Feb 17, 2015 12:42am
This is totally unexpected....Then again nothing surprises me here anymore......

Hang in there Ty, hopefully they will sort this out.....
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