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  • #959,801
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:43pm Feb 12, 2015 2:43pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} The unrealized loss on this open trade with now about 1,425 pips down is approximately 1.25%.
and it does worth it? with the rollovers and everything?…...
  • #959,802
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:43pm Feb 12, 2015 2:43pm
Quoting pips4m3
{quote} Sorry, a bit new here, but where does one find those metrics? Thanks.
Hi!

Homepage > Positions/Live Accounts > Click on that folder icon >
>There you can see the statistics + can change M5/1H/Daily to track Long:Short ratio

Note: it's reflecting the ForexFactroy's traders, not the global FX market conditions (but in my opinion...gives you a hint which way to seek technical patterns...but have to measure the good time frame either...hope it helps)
f(z)=z2+c
  • #959,803
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:44pm Feb 12, 2015 2:44pm
Keep working on the bounces

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...1&s=0&a=t&q=89
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  • #959,804
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:48pm Feb 12, 2015 2:48pm
Quoting hathor
{quote} Hi! Homepage > Positions/Live Accounts > Click on that folder icon > >There you can see the statistics + can change M5/1H/Daily to track Long:Short ratio Note: it's reflecting the ForexFactroy's traders, not the global FX market conditions (but in my opinion...gives you a hint which way to seek technical patterns...but have to measure the good time frame either...hope it helps)
Thank you!
  • #959,805
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:48pm Feb 12, 2015 2:48pm
Quoting evrynet
{quote} and it does worth it? with the rollovers and everything?...
Yes. It is part of a system that requires keeping them until certain time / price level. It won't make a difference if I close it, but I use it as a benchmark. After all there was a reason to take this long at this level.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #959,806
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:53pm Feb 12, 2015 2:53pm
Here we are at T of WTF http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...62#post8057162

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...4&d=1423544042
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  • #959,807
  • Feb 12, 2015 2:57pm Feb 12, 2015 2:57pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} What does it mean? what do you do with that? ...According to those numbers short are in average -120 ticks underwater and longs are also -120 ticks underwater..basically in AVERAGE everybody is a loser in FF (well that probably may not be off the mark in general for micro retail trading). Apparently also everybody is a swinger here too as the average trade is 11 WEEKS !!! and 3 weeks!!!....and if you dig a bit deeper most of the non-private traders are both sitting [stupidly] in both sides "hedging" (big lol) longs from 1.34xx ??? or shorts...
Maybe rubbish, maybe not, but I'm sure everybody heard "90% of retail Forex traders lose money"...or something similar...
well, at the end of Jan the ratio was somewhere
1long:10short 'Lot'
long avg at ~ 1.16 : short avg at ~ 1.13
f(z)=z2+c
  • #959,808
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:04pm Feb 12, 2015 3:04pm
Perhaps FF traders are a little more educated, and more representative of the 10℅?
  • #959,809
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:20pm Feb 12, 2015 3:20pm
Lets say all this Greek trouble resolves itself - isn't EU still forecast to fall? Has the ECB started "printing" money yet? Won't that impact on the price?

Technicals aside, I think fundamentally EU is still going to go down longer term.

I'd appreciate others thoughts on the longer-term outlook.
  • #959,810
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:28pm Feb 12, 2015 3:28pm
Quoting fxtrader08
Lets say all this Greek trouble resolves itself - isn't EU still forecast to fall? Has the ECB started "printing" money yet? Won't that impact on the price? Technicals aside, I think fundamentally EU is still going to go down longer term. I'd appreciate others thoughts on the longer-term outlook.
Well, that echoes my thoughts.. The Euro situation coupled with a 'hawkish' US eventually means a downtrend is inevitable in the long run.
Question is how long that run will be..
BitByBit..
  • #959,811
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:28pm Feb 12, 2015 3:28pm
Quoting fxtrader08
Lets say all this Greek trouble resolves itself - isn't EU still forecast to fall? Has the ECB started "printing" money yet? Won't that impact on the price? Technicals aside, I think fundamentally EU is still going to go down longer term. I'd appreciate others thoughts on the longer-term outlook.
This is precisely the reason why I am bearish in EUR/USD for the mid to long term. ECB is printing money on the heels of an impending Fed rate hike. Regardless of what happens with Greece the Euro will see new lows within the year.
  • #959,812
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:30pm Feb 12, 2015 3:30pm
Quoting jnetfx
Perhaps FF traders are a little more educated, and more representative of the 10℅?
There was a time, when I was thinking the same, but .
Ok, maybe there is a better ratio on FF, but lets face it, it's not a selected elit FX commando team.
f(z)=z2+c
  • #959,813
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:31pm Feb 12, 2015 3:31pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} What does it mean? what do you do with that? ...According to those numbers short are in average -120 ticks underwater and longs are also -120 ticks underwater..basically in AVERAGE everybody is a loser in FF (well that probably may not be off the mark in general for micro retail trading). Apparently also everybody is a swinger here too as the average trade is 11 WEEKS !!! and 3 weeks!!!....and if you dig a bit deeper most of the non-private traders are both sitting [stupidly] in both sides "hedging" (big lol) longs from 1.34xx ??? or shorts...
tell is how u really feel. dont keep it in..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #959,814
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:38pm Feb 12, 2015 3:38pm
Quoting hathor
{quote} Maybe rubbish, maybe not, but I'm sure everybody heard "90% of retail Forex traders lose money"...or something similar... well, at the end of Jan the ratio was somewhere 1long:10short 'Lot' long avg at ~ 1.16 : short avg at ~ 1.13
i would go out on a limb and say "all traders big or small lose money including central banks".. no one is special. its all about the timing, of what part of the cycle the survey is done...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #959,815
  • Feb 12, 2015 3:54pm Feb 12, 2015 3:54pm
he he you must know FOREX always been manipulated and only a hand full of fat guy make ton of money cause they know when the market going to move cause they are the one moving it , but we do not know the only option are to try to figure out when the fat guy going to make they move but before they will move the market in the same way if you where going fishing you have a bait then play with the fish then maybe if you are lucky you may catch the big one.
  • #959,816
  • Feb 12, 2015 4:00pm Feb 12, 2015 4:00pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
{quote} Hey ptl yes I have a level 5342 but cant remember why I put it there, 5351 was last weeks high, but still thinking 5413 is on the cards
5414 missed by 1 pip, anyway achieved and reacting, now the six dollar question is how bad do bears want to defend it ,???
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  • #959,817
  • Feb 12, 2015 4:03pm Feb 12, 2015 4:03pm
...and we rolled. A slightly bearish close but intraday bulls still with the upper-hand for the Asian session. Now we have a confirmed 1.138x only level to track for tomorrow close...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #959,818
  • Edited 4:14pm Feb 12, 2015 4:04pm | Edited 4:14pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
{quote} 5414 missed by 1 pip, anyway achieved and reacting, now the six dollar question is how bad do bears want to defend it ,???
Dunno mate. Think we could buy some to push it? Daily closed quite fine

edit: On the other case, was more of rumour move, so lots space imo to correct move to 1,526.
edit: Mate, due to Oil and Stocks move, have covered myself into GUs longs: short - mid term. What a nice hedge for me intraday. UJ cleared half of my entries today, lucky GU entries negged the intraday move.
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  • #959,819
  • Feb 12, 2015 4:29pm Feb 12, 2015 4:29pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Dunno mate. Think we could buy some to push it? Daily closed quite fine edit: On the other case, was more of rumour move, so lots space imo to correct move to 1,526. edit: Mate, due to Oil and Stocks move, have covered myself into GUs. What a nice hedge for me intraday. UJ cleared half of my entries today, lucky GU entries negged the intraday move.
not sure right now, prefer to wait out 5413, its quite an important level
geppy (yen) played silly buggers this morning and now right back to ground zero for another attack, if bulls succeed we could see 187 20

ptl mentioned a level last night on cable 5342ish and I had a level around there but couldnt remember why I put it there, my levels are hardcopy, which I have left at the bach, it could be a really old level not sure, anyways just scanning pa, she did test from below, then pop thru and retest from above before pushing on to 5413 neat as a pin, I might make that my 1st marker for a pull back, and then the daily 50sma which aligns with the big daily falling UTL breach that is still to be retested also,

so for now, pb 5400 squeezed a few with sl and watch and wait especially geppy

bro its Friday 13th my lucky day

ps went quite posting last night when so many were trying to buy usd with such shitty data, not recommended, much better to wait patience until dust clears, goota go asuuie blabber mouth on wires
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  • #959,820
  • Feb 12, 2015 5:10pm Feb 12, 2015 5:10pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
{quote} not sure right now, prefer to wait out 5413, its quite an important level geppy (yen) played silly buggers this morning and now right back to ground zero for another attack, if bulls succeed we could see 187 20 ..
Both starting to bounce.

How go your Aussie rumours? Am still afraid to enter that pair and waiting. Not like those chop moves :/.
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