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  • #41
  • Edited 4:01am Feb 9, 2015 3:43am | Edited 4:01am
Quoting Rooi
Here is what I will be testing this week but pretty sure there will some changes by the end of the week but more likely after I have been watching the EA trade for the week I will set up 2 or 3 more instances of mt4 with the EA on it with different setting to forward test. Here is my set file and template for anyone who is interested bearing in mind this is the first time I will be forward testing the EA Anyone testing the idea with different setting or anything please feel free to share info here as much as you want so that we can see what works...
Dear Rooi,

My Comments on your Settings: (I assume you're using a 5-digit broker as seen from the charts you attached)

  1. Min. Distance between order = 20 is too small for a 5-digit broker, should be at least 150 or 200. However since you're trading the Daily time frame it shouldn't be an issue as we have a maximum of One Order per Candle.
  2. You have enabled the stop loss options AND the Equity Loss percentage.

    1. a SL of 100 points (10 pips) will be hit very frequently on a Daily time frame
    2. Plus it is advisable to use either SL options, or Equity Loss options as both will contradict with each other.
    3. Keep in mind that SL options are applicable to each pair, While Equity options are applicable to All pairs traded (the whole account actually).
    4. When using SL options we have to take care of each pair volatility and the time frame traded, So a SL of 50 pips (500 points) could be suitable for EUR/USD D1, bout not for GBP/JPY D1 which needs more room
    5. When using Equity Gain/Loss percentages,This actually will be your Reward:Risk Ratio, I would advise of having a minimum of 1:1 Reward to Risk ratio if not more. So if you set Gain%=20%, Loss% should be maximum 20%




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  • #42
  • Feb 9, 2015 3:46am Feb 9, 2015 3:46am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Perfect Rooi. Will stay tuned. Regards, Ty
Looking forward to your results as well Ty.

You have been the one who has done very well in the last couple of weeks.

Good luck to you and us all

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #43
  • Feb 9, 2015 3:48am Feb 9, 2015 3:48am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} Dear Rooi, My Comments on your Settings: (I assume your using a 5-digit broker as seen from the charts you attached) Min. Distance between order = 20 is too small for a 5-digit broker, should be at least 150 or 200. However since you're trading the Daily time frame it shouldn't be an issue as we have a maximum of One Order per Candle. You have enabled the stop loss options AND the Equity Loss percentage. a SL of 100 points (10 pips) will be hit very frequently on a Daily time frame to be continued
Hi.

I have already put up the update screenshot.When I looked at the screenshot I realized I had uploaded the wrong one

Thanks for the swift warning

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #44
  • Feb 9, 2015 3:59am Feb 9, 2015 3:59am
Good morning, I'll test in two configurations, one in each account, but I have doubts about the configuration of Heiken ashi candles smoothed does complies with the framework of EA?
Open demo account to test the configuration with Heiken Ashi here the results will be easy to produce, at Heiken ashi smoothed setting the account is working together with other EAs and may be more difficult to show the results.
Can anyone confirm that the indicator configuration is well in EA settings?
Thank you and sorry for the English.
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  • #45
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:05am Feb 9, 2015 4:05am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Hi. I have already put up the update screenshot.When I looked at the screenshot I realized I had uploaded the wrong one Thanks for the swift warning Rooi
OK, I will continue here on the Updated settings:

  1. Maximum Seconds to activate after candle start = 60 seconds, this will be very short period, and Robot might not be able to open the trade. Specially on a start of the daily candle where slippage and re-quotes happen too often. 60 seconds could be suitable for a M15 or H1, but for D1 you should allow for at least 300 seconds (5 minutes).

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  • #46
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:08am Feb 9, 2015 4:08am
Quoting macdh4
Good morning, I'll test in two configurations, one in each account, but I have doubts about the configuration of Heiken ashi candles smoothed does complies with the framework of EA? Open demo account to test the configuration with Heiken Ashi here the results will be easy to produce, at Heiken ashi smoothed setting the account is working together with other EAs and may be more difficult to show the results. Can anyone confirm that the indicator configuration is well in EA settings? Thank you and sorry for the English. {image} {image} {image}
If you will use Higher Time Frame as a filter, and you are using D1 as Time_Frame input, then Higher_TF could be W1, or MN.
If you don't want want to use the higher time frame filter you can set it as the input used for Time_Frame input, in this case it should be D1.
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  • #47
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:11am Feb 9, 2015 4:11am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That answers perfectly my question ... Thank you!
Glad to have you here FerruFx.

I have a technical question if you don't mind.

Is there a way to flip between Input Variable Name and Description in EA Settings Window ?

Thanks in advance,
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  • #48
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:14am Feb 9, 2015 4:14am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} Dear Rooi, My Comments on your Settings: (I assume you're using a 5-digit broker as seen from the charts you attached) Min. Distance between order = 20 is too small for a 5-digit broker, should be at least 150 or 200. However since you're trading the Daily time frame it shouldn't be an issue as we have a maximum of One Order per Candle. You have enabled the stop loss options AND the Equity Loss percentage. a SL of 100 points (10 pips) will be hit very frequently on a Daily time frame Plus it is advisable to use either SL options, or Equity...

I agree with all that you have said above.

I wanted to see if I use the SL function to close out the pairs that might be moving against us in that specific Cycle if there might be any advantage to it or not

With the current way that I have set-up the EA I am unsure what will happen with the DD and so I gave it a bit of play with 50% DD vs the 20% gain but will adapt and update as we go along when I get an idea of how the swings regarding the equity might look like

Regarding the ATR of each pair I agree.If the SL proves to be useful I will update it to 2 * ADR or something of the sort.Will have to test.

Glad we are able to start working on the different ways that we might implement your EA

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #49
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:15am Feb 9, 2015 4:15am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} OK, I will continue here on the Updated settings: Maximum Seconds to activate after candle start = 60 seconds, this will be very short period, and Robot might not be able to open the trade. Specially on a start of the daily candle where slippage and re-quotes happen too often. 60 seconds could be suitable for a M15 or H1, but for D1 you should allow for at least 300 seconds (5 minutes).
Thank you.

I have added this info to the first post and will update my setting

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #50
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:23am Feb 9, 2015 4:23am
But the indicator configuration is correct under the EA?
Thank you for your attention
  • #51
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:23am Feb 9, 2015 4:23am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} OK, I will continue here on the Updated settings: Maximum Seconds to activate after candle start = 60 seconds, this will be very short period, and Robot might not be able to open the trade. Specially on a start of the daily candle where slippage and re-quotes happen too often. 60 seconds could be suitable for a M15 or H1, but for D1 you should allow for at least 300 seconds (5 minutes).
Wow AB - I didn't know that.

Please take note Rooi - I have Changed the following in the setfile:

Max_Seconds_to_Activate=300

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #52
  • Feb 9, 2015 4:38am Feb 9, 2015 4:38am
hey ty lamai first off thank you to the team, for the opportunity to test this great EA,

i have a question, in the robots lab thread you have posted 2 set files, 1 is 15 pairs (no CHF) and the other is ghostrider4, can i ask which setfile pertains to your trade explorer?

many thanks
  • #53
  • Feb 9, 2015 5:00am Feb 9, 2015 5:00am
Quoting blamshakk
hey ty lamai first off thank you to the team, for the opportunity to test this great EA, i have a question, in the robots lab thread you have posted 2 set files, 1 is 15 pairs (no CHF) and the other is ghostrider4, can i ask which setfile pertains to your trade explorer? many thanks
Hello blamshakk,

Glad to have you here.

I already answered the same question here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post8051590

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #54
  • Feb 9, 2015 5:04am Feb 9, 2015 5:04am
oops sorry for missing that! many thanks


Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hello blamshakk, Glad to have you here. I already answered the same question here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post8051590 Regards, Ty
  • #55
  • Feb 9, 2015 5:16am Feb 9, 2015 5:16am
Quoting blamshakk
oops sorry for missing that! many thanks {quote}
No problems blamshakk

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #56
  • Feb 9, 2015 5:56am Feb 9, 2015 5:56am
HA_Rider_06

New version updates :

  1. Fixing of trailing stop error tracking, raised by B-Naire2B in "Robots Lab" HERE
  2. Addition of 2 new inputs for Lot Size Controls

    1. Lot_Size_Percentage_Of = "B";//1st Order Lot Size as Prcentage Of "E"quity, "B" Balance
    2. Lot_Size_Percentage=2;//Lot Size Percentage 2=2%,
    3. The robot will calculate the lot size based on the above parameters taking into consideration the required margin and min and max lots allowed by the broker. Of course to activate these 2 options you have to set the Fixed Lot Size to 0 (zero).
    4. Note that the variable lot size calculation is applied only to the first order of the Chain, then consecutive order lots are calculated base on 1st order lot size and "Next Order Multiply Factor" input.
    5. Please note that this is not a Risk Percentage. Its only a way of calculating Variable lot size in order to grow the lot size as Equity/Balance grows, and done mainly for back testing purposes but can be applied to forward testing as well.


Here are the test results for EUR/USD 2014 D1,W1. I played also with HAS settings ... (set file used for back testing attached for your reference).

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And here is the robot,
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 HA_Rider_06.mq4   23 KB | 694 downloads

Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 HA_Rider_06.ex4   31 KB | 483 downloads


And here the setting (.set file)
Attached File(s)
File Type: rar HAR_06_abokwaik.rar   < 1 KB | 630 downloads


Enjoy the Ride
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  • #57
  • Feb 9, 2015 6:26am Feb 9, 2015 6:26am
looks nice. i like the limited drawdown.
Each pair has its own settings, right? Backtest shows good results for EURUSD only.
  • #58
  • Feb 9, 2015 6:27am Feb 9, 2015 6:27am
Quoting abokwaik
HA_Rider_06 New version updates : Fixing of trailing stop error tracking, raised by B-Naire2B in "Robots Lab" HERE Addition of 2 new inputs for Lot Size Controls Lot_Size_Percentage_Of = "B";//1st Order Lot Size as Prcentage Of "E"quity, "B" Balance Lot_Size_Percentage=2;//Lot Size Percentage 2=2%, The robot will calculate the lot size based on the above parameters taking into consideration the required margin and min and max lots allowed by the broker. Of course to activate...
Nice one AB!

HA_Rider is becoming a Mega beast now.

Excellent job as usual AB.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #59
  • Feb 9, 2015 6:28am Feb 9, 2015 6:28am
Quoting tikku
looks nice. i like the limited drawdown. Each pair has its own settings, right? Backtest shows good results for EURUSD only.
Each pair has its own settings, right? --> Right
Backtest shows good results for EURUSD only.
Yes. MT4 Back Testing does not support multiple pairs. That's why the guys here are doing forward testing on multiple pairs.
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  • #60
  • Feb 9, 2015 6:45am Feb 9, 2015 6:45am
Quoting macdh4
Good morning, I'll test in two configurations, one in each account, but I have doubts about the configuration of Heiken ashi candles smoothed does complies with the framework of EA? Open demo account to test the configuration with Heiken Ashi here the results will be easy to produce, at Heiken ashi smoothed setting the account is working together with other EAs and may be more difficult to show the results. Can anyone confirm that the indicator configuration is well in EA settings? Thank you and sorry for the English. {image} {image} {image}
Sorry macdh4, I misinterpreted your question the first time.

The indicator is not necessarily to be uploaded on the chart(s). Because the HA_Rider calls it internally with the settings from the EA.
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