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  • #441
  • Feb 6, 2015 6:56am Feb 6, 2015 6:56am
Quoting felixis
if you like robots Abokwaik, there is an interesting strategy based on the invert sucker way of trading. I simulated it one time its a long term strategy. buy or sell microlot at random with a rather tight stop loss and average up your position each time it goes more in your favor for say 30 pips close the position either when the difference is 800 pip in you favor from the first entry or because price took the stop of your first entry. you will have a stair case equity curve why it works ? because its exactly the opposite of the looser that average...

Already done felixis, under the name
: Ladder System. Check posts #21 and #24 of the thread.
No guts, no glory
  • #442
  • Feb 6, 2015 7:22am Feb 6, 2015 7:22am
seems the ladder system uses a trailing stop

the other one does not move the stop at all and has a fixed target of 800pips

anyway you should try to backtest on a longer period say 5 years , the equity curve is funny
  • #443
  • Feb 6, 2015 7:25am Feb 6, 2015 7:25am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Hi TyLamai Thank you for sharing your nice results and setting up a TE. Very useful the info that you gave about the equity TP and SL you use.Maybe Abowaik can create the function for it as part of the EA.I can add it to but not sure how Abowaik will feel about it. We might also add the function of days and times to trade and not to trade like you specified. What do you and Abowaik think about creating a thread for the robot itself and we can compare and discuss it and have all the info about it in one place.Theses are just suggestions to...
I will answer my part of your post Rooi,

I posted my plan on how robots should be moved out of the lab into their own threads, which might be slow to some traders, specially when there was no progress on that front until now, mainly due to lack of time from my side.

So I don't mind, in fact I encourage Ty to open and manage a thread for this robot. It was his idea in the first place. I will provide all the technical support for such a thread. And Yes, closing options used by Ty can be built with in HA_RIDER.

Regards,
No guts, no glory
  • #444
  • Feb 6, 2015 7:27am Feb 6, 2015 7:27am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} I will answer my part of your post Rooi, I posted my plan on how robots should be moved out of the lab into their own threads, which might be slow to some traders, specially when there was no progress on that front until now, mainly due to lack of time from my side. So I don't mind, in fact I encourage Ty to open and manage a thread for this robot. It was his idea in the first place. I will provide all the technical support for such a thread. And Yes, closing options used by Ty can be built with in HA_RIDER. Regards,

Thank you for your response

Lets see what Ty replies.

Have a good weekend

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #445
  • Feb 6, 2015 9:14am Feb 6, 2015 9:14am
Quoting anuj20jain
{quote} Deear Tylamai Thanks for your files. But there are two set files that you have shared. Which one to use and where? Request you to let me know the same.
Two set files?

Are you referring to "15Pairs (No CHF).set"?

If so, please this is NOT a set file. It's simply a list of the 15Pairs I trade HA_Rider on. Just change the File extension ".set" to ".txt" (15Pairs (No CHF).txt).

The set file I use is named "GhostRider-v4.set" also attached in my post above.

And please read what I wrote above for the "Which one to use and where?" part of your inquiry. I think I was VERY concise in my explanations?

Anyways, let me know how else I can help.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #446
  • Feb 6, 2015 9:20am Feb 6, 2015 9:20am
Quoting B-Naire2B
{quote} As I understood, you use equity EA separately? Can you post it here?
Hello B-Naire2B,

I use Equity Sentry or Swiss Army to manage Equity, just do a google search - it's easier than me uploading it.

You may also make use of MBTM or MPTM (Multi-Basket / Multi-Pair Trade Manager) by Steve Hopwood if you want something more complex.

But as I have read above, AB is willing to add an Equity Management Section to the HA_Rider BOT so it might make ALL the above obsolete...maybe we can simply wait for him to make the addition?

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #447
  • Feb 6, 2015 1:34pm Feb 6, 2015 1:34pm
Quoting Rooi
{quote} ...What do you and Abowaik think about creating a thread for the robot itself and we can compare and discuss it and have all the info about it in one place.Theses are just suggestions to consider.Im just along for the ride and its up to Abowaik and you to decide how to best move forward seeing as you are getting some nice results and he made the EA All the best Rooi
Hmmmm Rooi...

A HA_Rider-dedicated-thread is a fantastic idea no doubt as it will help de-clutter this one and allow us focus specifically on the development of the HA_Rider.

Setting up a thread is NOT the issue but the management of such a thread; as we know this can quickly become a time consuming endeavour.

As usual I am available to help out as much as I can but I doubt very much that I can run a thread right now.

Open to suggestion as usual though.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #448
  • Feb 6, 2015 1:38pm Feb 6, 2015 1:38pm
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} Very exciting Ty Trend following bots will perform well trading daily or weekly time frames. Applying that to a basket will minmize the risk. Good job Ty
Yes AB, I believe that the "basketting" is one of the secrets to why HA_Rider works...but...

one NEEDS to NOT be "afraid" of DDs - and you know that is a WHOLE OTHER mindset and discussion altogether lol.

Thanks for the great job AB - as usual.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #449
  • Feb 6, 2015 1:44pm Feb 6, 2015 1:44pm
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} I will answer my part of your post Rooi, I posted my plan on how robots should be moved out of the lab into their own threads, which might be slow to some traders, specially when there was no progress on that front until now, mainly due to lack of time from my side. So I don't mind, in fact I encourage Ty to open and manage a thread for this robot. It was his idea in the first place. I will provide all the technical support for such a thread. And Yes, closing options used by Ty can be built with in HA_RIDER. Regards,
Wow AB - managing a thread is not for me at the moment (as I mentioned to Rooi above). I like to give things my ALL and I know for a fact that my time would be divided at the moment if I attempt trying to manage a thread...but...

If you (or someone else from this thread even) were to open a HA_Rider thread, you can be CERTAIN that I will come in and contribute ALL I can concerning this BOT.

Meanwhile it would REALLY enhance HA_Rider is the next version can incorporate the Equity Management section as was proposed - again you are really outdoing yourself AB. Thank you.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #450
  • Feb 6, 2015 1:47pm Feb 6, 2015 1:47pm
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Thank you for your response Lets see what Ty replies. Have a good weekend Rooi
Replied already!

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #451
  • Feb 6, 2015 7:15pm Feb 6, 2015 7:15pm
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Two set files? Are you referring to "15Pairs (No CHF).set"? If so, please this is NOT a set file. It's simply a list of the 15Pairs I trade HA_Rider on. Just change the File extension ".set" to ".txt" (15Pairs (No CHF).txt). The set file I use is named "GhostRider-v4.set" also attached in my post above. And please read what I wrote above for the "Which...
Dear tylamaiThough using the ghostrider preset file when loading the input is fine, but how is other file to be used?
  • #452
  • Feb 7, 2015 12:18am Feb 7, 2015 12:18am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} So I don't mind, in fact I encourage Ty to open and manage a thread for this robot. It was his idea in the first place. I will provide all the technical support for such a thread.
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Wow AB - managing a thread is not for me at the moment (as I mentioned to Rooi above)
Hi Guys

If Abowaik doesn't feel like starting a thread then I dont mind to open one with a TradeExsplorer and linking back to the RobotLab thread and making sure credit for all of it goes where it is due and setting it all in place in the first post and seeing as the first post remains editable forever I can always change whatever you guys want.BUT like I said this is only if Abowaik doesn't feel like opening it himself.

Let me know what you guys think and we can see how next week starts for the HA_Rider (aka The_Ghost_Rider )

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #453
  • Feb 7, 2015 3:02am Feb 7, 2015 3:02am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} {quote} Hi Guys If Abowaik doesn't feel like starting a thread then I dont mind to open one with a TradeExsplorer and linking back to the RobotLab thread and making sure credit for all of it goes where it is due and setting it all in place in the first post and seeing as the first post remains editable forever I can always change whatever you guys want.BUT like I said this is only if Abowaik doesn't feel like opening it himself. Let me know what you guys think and we can see how next week starts for the HA_Rider (aka The_Ghost_Rider )...
It's OK with me. But before doing that let me furbish a Final version of HA_Rider with the following:

  1. Money Management Options
  2. HA option (Standard HA or Smoothed HA)
  3. ECN compatibility
  4. Max Spread/Slippage Options
  5. In addition to other final touches and validations (Error handling ... etc).

Regards,

No guts, no glory
  • #454
  • Feb 7, 2015 3:23am Feb 7, 2015 3:23am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} It's OK with me. But before doing that let me furbish a Final version of HA_Rider with the following: Money Management Options HA option (Standard HA or Smoothed HA) ECN compatibility Max Spread/Slippage Options In addition to other final touches and validations (Error handling ... etc). Regards,

Sounds great!

I will make the thread in the mean time and will have it ready for when you are ready with a more final version of the EA.

Hope you have a good weekend

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #455
  • Feb 7, 2015 4:39am Feb 7, 2015 4:39am
Quoting anuj20jain
{quote} Dear tylamaiThough using the ghostrider preset file when loading the input is fine, but how is other file to be used?
Hello anuj...

The other file was simply me LISTING the EXACT 15 Pairs I trade. That's it.

It's NOT to be used in any way except to SHOW the pairs...

Meaning:
==============
- Open a D1 chart of EACH pair LISTED on that file
- Apply HA_Rider on EACH chart
- Use an Equity Management EA on a separate chart to CONTROL SL/TP (or WAIT for AB to upgrade HA_Rider with the Equity Management Section)

I hope this is clearer? Please ask if you need further clarification.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #456
  • Feb 7, 2015 4:43am Feb 7, 2015 4:43am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} It's OK with me. But before doing that let me furbish a Final version of HA_Rider with the following: Money Management Options HA option (Standard HA or Smoothed HA)...
"HA option (Standard HA or Smoothed HA)"



FINALLY AB...finally!!! Oh goody man! For this single addition (Smoothed HA), HA_Rider-v5 WILL be Da Bomb man!

***Please could you make the HAS (HA_Smoothed) inputs to be User-Defined? (I mentioned this at the beginning but I COULDN'T elucidate coherently lol!)

Thank you Sir!

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #457
  • Feb 7, 2015 4:43am Feb 7, 2015 4:43am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Sounds great! I will make the thread in the mean time and will have it ready for when you are ready with a more final version of the EA. Hope you have a good weekend Rooi
Hello Rooi!

You have my BLESSING! Lol.

Thanks man - Well done.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #458
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:09am Feb 7, 2015 5:09am
Could any one post the best Smoothed HA indicator (MQ4 also if available) and save me the search.
Thanks.
No guts, no glory
  • #459
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:14am Feb 7, 2015 5:14am
Because we will have money management options (at account level), I think it will be meaningless to keep Stop Loss and Trailing stop inputs, So I think I will remove them. Accordingly Exits rules will be as follows:

  1. Equity Gain target reached.
  2. Equity Loss limit reached.
  3. Reverse Signal appears.

What do you think ?

No guts, no glory
  • #460
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:25am Feb 7, 2015 5:25am
Quoting abokwaik
Could any one post the best Smoothed HA indicator (MQ4 also if available) and save me the search. Thanks.
Here goes AB.

Note: I ALSO included the HAS-MultiTimeFrame indicator too since HA_Rider-v4 allows us trade in the Direction of a HIGHER TimeFrame. Am thinking, HAS-mtf would probably make a lot more sense since we can then choose to a SEPARATE set of User-Defined inputs for the Higher TF...example:

- M15 HAS = 2,15,2,15 while
- D1 HAS = 2,3,2,4

Just an example AB.

Regards,

Ty
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