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  • #3,861
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:29am Feb 6, 2015 11:29am
Quoting wookey
{quote} ​I do not know whether the Leaprate information is correct, but true or not breaking the customer database is the most expected thing. I wrote it before that Alpari as a whole is not a great buy, but if the customers are divided into good a bad group and sold separately it will maximize and speed up the return for clients. Sale of the trademarks and IP to Alpari owners is a clear indication that KPMG gave up trying to sell Alpari, now they have to find a way to break it cleverly and sold the parts to the highest bidders.
Yeah i hope it will be like you said in full!
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,862
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:34am Feb 6, 2015 11:34am
Quoting Articulate
I can see that you are not only stupid, but also desperate and clueless. Is Leaprate the Special Administrators appointed to Alpari (UK) Ltd? If you think Leaprate will retrieve your fund (if you have any) with Alpari UK, go ahead give them all your financial details and keep deluding yourself. {quote}
I just wonder why someone soo cautious just to give phone number and real name to get more option to have their money back. to get a reward you must stake a risk, as a trader you should know this , right?. it may have some risk , but at same time give you opportunity , if this happen to have many petition and get attention from higher profile, and maybe leaprate also will publish some post related to this problem, and the voice will be heard to outside community beside this small group of alpari client. just dont give them your first email, give them your secondary email or third email
  • #3,863
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:40am Feb 6, 2015 11:40am
Quoting neoxis
{quote} mmx007 actually i not have the correct answer about your situation. May be someone than have some info on it can give you more satisfactory answer.
I just know I am a really retail client.

This is their site history from
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...m/en/my/apply#

Anyone can see the Pro account will be better. If this Pro account type means "Professional client" in FSA, I have no words.

Micro
account
For new traders and those trading smaller volumes in the forex and precious metals markets.
Platform:MetaTrader 4
Minimum spread:1.2 pips
Instruments34 currency pairs,
gold and silver
Minimum deposit:USD200
Maximum leverage:1:500 for forex, 1:50 for precious metals
Maximum open position:2 standard lots
Minimum trade size:0.01 lot
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...pari/close.png
Classic
account
Ideal solution for experienced traders in the forex, precious metals and CFD markets.
Platform:MetaTrader 4
Minimum spread:1.2 pips
Instruments34 currency pairs,
gold and silver,
17 CFD
instruments
Minimum deposit:USD500
Maximum leverage:1:500 for forex, 1:50 for precious metals, fixed margin for CFDs
Maximum open position:No limit
Minimum trade size:0.10 lot (for forex and precious metals, commodity and index CFDs
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...pari/close.png
Pro
account
Professional-level forex and precious metals trading. Precious metals also available if the Pro account is on MT4.
Platform:MetaTrader 4Alpari Direct Pro | Alpari Direct
Minimum spread:0 pips0 pips
Instruments57 currency pairs, gold and silver57 currency pairs, gold and silver
Minimum deposit:USD10,000USD20,000
Maximum leverage:1:100 for forex, 1:50 for precious metals1:100 for forex, 1:50 for precious metals
Maximum open position:No limitNo limit
Minimum trade size:1 lot0.10 lot
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...pari/close.png
Spread betting
account
Spread betting is a derivatives product that allows you to trade on the price movements of the financial markets, whether they rise or fall.
Platform:MetaTrader 4
Minimum spread:1.2 pips
Instruments34 currency pairs,
seven major indices,
10 commodities
Minimum deposit:GBP250
Maximum leverage:1:500 for forex
Maximum open position:No limit
Minimum trade size:0.10 lot
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...pari/close.png
ECN
on MT5
Trade Forex and spot gold/silver on MT5, a new trading platform featuring market depth, one-click trading, 1:500 leverage and spreads from 0 pips with no re-quotes.
Platform:MetaTrader 5
Minimum spread:0 pips
Instruments34 currency pairs,
gold and silver
Minimum deposit:USD200
Maximum leverage:1:500 for forex, 1:50 for precious metals
Maximum open position:No limit
Minimum trade size:0.01 lot for forex 0.10 lot for precious metals
http://web.archive.org/web/201305090...pari/close.png
  • #3,864
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:42am Feb 6, 2015 11:42am
There is even the Market account...it's like past micro/classic i guess?
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,865
  • Feb 6, 2015 12:33pm Feb 6, 2015 12:33pm
I don't know you guys, but I already moved on with my other accounts. I won't be surprised if they decide to give back nothing after all the fuss.
  • #3,866
  • Feb 6, 2015 2:10pm Feb 6, 2015 2:10pm
Quoting emanco
I don't know you guys, but I already moved on with my other accounts. I won't be surprised if they decide to give back nothing after all the fuss.
You are quite "funny", give up that easy, without starting a "world war" with them. If u invest 100 $, you might uninterested but consider one day you invest several $k or even more what then.

So dont bring us down, we are almost 30000 ppl with cash ( some more some less ) but we should have enough VOICES to fight them.
  • #3,867
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:27pm Feb 6, 2015 3:27pm
Quoting emanco
I don't know you guys, but I already moved on with my other accounts. I won't be surprised if they decide to give back nothing after all the fuss.
Don't say bullshits please...we are talking seriously...inform around before to say something like that...money are still there...or there isn't any sale...there wasn't any fiscal froud...so its useless what you said and not helping us at all.

You think everything will be so easy if ours funds were stolen??? you think the EX shareholder can buy and take back trademark and Alpari uk rights ?? Or in anyway maight kpmg talk with some buyer for a negotiation? come on man try to read before to talk.

If we didn't care to lose ours money we just choose a broker regulated from Cayman or St.Vincent and Granadine.

We are in uk and money as said from FCA and kpmg are still there..and is true or they don't try to do any negotiation...or you think potentials buyers are interested in computer/office assets? lol. Think before talk. Thanks.

PS: while we are talking japanese clients are taking money back. So if there was any froud they will not allowed to do that and Andry dashin was WANTED for jail or fined. You forgot what happened to the owner of PFG? Sentenced to 155 years. I think the longest sentenced in the world on financial froud. And anyway this is not the case.
Liquid market are in fiscal froud so for their customers is a quite worst than us. Pepperstone seems too.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,868
  • Feb 7, 2015 1:10am Feb 7, 2015 1:10am
Quoting articulate
you have to refresh the page or click on the link again. You will find your name http://4fx.club/petition/ {quote}
let this go viral.. Share the link on facebook,. Tweet it... Let it be everywhere
  • #3,869
  • Feb 7, 2015 2:09am Feb 7, 2015 2:09am
Quoting Mroue26
{quote} let this go viral.. Share the link on facebook,. Tweet it... Let it be everywhere
No offense but the petition is complete bullshit. It will not make them work any faster or slower. They will do their job, regardless of petitions and/or complaints.
Only thing is that by constantly harassing them the process might actually go slower.

And yes, I still have money inside and I feel a leak somewhere since I've been getting these bullshit marketing calls from different Forex brokers in last few days.
  • #3,870
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:19am Feb 7, 2015 5:19am
Just an update:

http://leaprate.com/2015/02/alpari-u...fo-memorandum/
  • #3,871
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:21am Feb 7, 2015 5:21am
Quoting Nednones
Just an update: http://leaprate.com/2015/02/alpari-u...fo-memorandum/
Already posted. Before to post look past pages. thanks
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,872
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:27am Feb 7, 2015 5:27am
Quoting emanco
I don't know you guys, but I already moved on with my other accounts. I won't be surprised if they decide to give back nothing after all the fuss.
Think twice bro before u speak up in this discussion
  • #3,873
  • Feb 7, 2015 5:31am Feb 7, 2015 5:31am
Quoting neoxis
{quote} Already posted. Before to post look past pages. thanks
  • #3,874
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:02am Feb 7, 2015 6:02am
Quoting emanco
I don't know you guys, but I already moved on with my other accounts. I won't be surprised if they decide to give back nothing after all the fuss.
I don't know you. I won't be surprised if you are a idiot, after all you wrote.
  • #3,875
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:07am Feb 7, 2015 6:07am
Quoting mmx007
{quote} Could you please explain who is 'professional' client ? I notice when register with Alpari they give MT5 pro , AlpariDirect Pro account. Is this mean 'professional' client? When I registered the account details is like this: Nature of account: Personal , Account type: Pro
White label is a professional client. For Alpari is 1 account in the name of that white label. But white label has his clients in that account.
  • #3,876
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:24am Feb 7, 2015 6:24am
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} Read about law and rules. You waste time.
Thank you for your contribution, we feel all the more enlightened now...
  • #3,877
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:24am Feb 7, 2015 6:24am
Clients for sale
Any serious buyer!!!!!!
  • #3,878
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:34am Feb 7, 2015 6:34am
Quoting nAVIN2007
im actually quite pissed off that my positions were closed..I had very nice swing trades with mm in mind..and got closed all because alpari could not handle a business..i feel betrayed!! We have to be able to claim damages against this sort of thing? this is the worst start of the year we could have imagined
Unfortunately according to the client agreement (that everybody has agreed to) they reserve the right to do that if a "Force Majeure Event" exists (i.e an event or occurrence that prevents the Company from maintaining an orderly market in one or more of the Instruments).

See clause 27 of the Alpari client agreement - http://static.alpari.co.uk/docs/alpa...direct_pro.pdf

I am no expert in these matters but i suspect clause 27 will pretty much clear them of any wrong doing in closing the trades.
  • #3,879
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:57am Feb 7, 2015 6:57am
Wow, you've just found an alpari.co.uk link which is still working...
  • #3,880
  • Feb 7, 2015 6:58am Feb 7, 2015 6:58am
Quoting ziggy25
{quote} Unfortunately according to the client agreement (that everybody has agreed to) they reserve the right to do that if a "Force Majeure Event" exists (i.e an event or occurrence that prevents the Company from maintaining an orderly market in one or more of the Instruments). See clause 27 of the Alpari client agreement - http://static.alpari.co.uk/docs/alpa...direct_pro.pdf I am no expert in these matters but i suspect clause 27 will pretty much clear them of any wrong doing in closing the trades.
Dude seriously,they went bankrupt.It was their error.By not having any protection in place they cant
claim it is a force Majeure even though they sure will try.All these clauses need to hold on to
introspection ,only then can they be upheld by the law of the land.
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