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  • #3,841
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:02am Feb 6, 2015 10:02am
I didn't put my telephone. Just a secondary email than i use just for these things...so maybe yeah they have interest. But i'm safe from some promoters than want grab me. and if you are worried about the amount of money than i put...come on man is just a symbolic wrote...without any proof and no details of login...so nothing to be worried...and money are segregated they just have my real name.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,842
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:12am Feb 6, 2015 10:12am
Quoting neoxis
very important a full pdf with all details of alpari uk company reported from kpmg. read it if you want know more about the company situation assets! {image}
​Thanks, for posting this. From the document it is clear that Alpari did not even have risk management as a separate department. Unfortunately it looks typically Russian highest level of technology but lousy risk management.
Wookey
  • #3,843
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:16am Feb 6, 2015 10:16am
Quoting wookey
{quote} ​Thanks, for posting this. From the document it is clear that Alpari did not even have risk management as a separate department. Unfortunately it looks typically Russian highest level of technology but lousy risk management.
Yeah wookey...but ours funds are still there and as far as we know...from leaprate spokesman it seems we will be sold at the highest bidder...and we will have the possibility to chose if we want take back our money from kpmg process or being transfered to new buyer (broker) database and reactive all trading operations.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,844
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:23am Feb 6, 2015 10:23am
Good morning..I registered to Alpari on 01/12/2015 and I made de transaction before 01/15/2015...I do not know how to get back my money
  • #3,845
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:33am Feb 6, 2015 10:33am
Quoting neoxis
{quote} Yeah wookey...but ours funds are still there and as far as we know...from leaprate spokesman it seems we will be sold at the highest bidder...and we will have the possibility to chose if we want take back our money from kpmg process or being transfered to new buyer (broker) database and reactive all trading operations.

surely with some kind of tip? reward
  • #3,846
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:41am Feb 6, 2015 10:41am
I can see that you are not only stupid, but also desperate and clueless. Is Leaprate the Special Administrators appointed to Alpari (UK) Ltd? If you think Leaprate will retrieve your fund (if you have any) with Alpari UK, go ahead give them all your financial details and keep deluding yourself.





Quoting neoxis
{quote} We need help from anyone! i didn't put my telephone number but if they require your email i don't know why we shouldn't give em. No i'm not from leaprate and even if for just an email i will receive their newsletter I DONT CARE. we just care to do everything possible for take back ours funds and leaprate is a good way for have a contact with heis of KPMG. For sure more easily than make that kind of petition of 4fx! I signed both...So what's the problem? i received call for invest my funds yesterday too from another company. We are in the...
  • #3,847
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:44am Feb 6, 2015 10:44am
For now nothing is sure.. But for sure leaprate is more reliable than forexmagnates since is started this drama. And leaprate was the first journal than said that news about FXCM wants acquire alpari uk was a bullshits and for now as far as we know ..we received an official kpmg pdf from them. Nothing from others. So i think they are more involved inside kpmg and know the situation more than others.
So why we should be so suspiscious? it seems we will be sold at the highest bidder if is true that's the only important thing right now and ours funds are still there. I'm talking obviously just for positive accounts.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,848
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:51am Feb 6, 2015 10:51am
Quoting Articulate
I can see that you are not only stupid, but also desperate and clueless. Is Leaprate the Special Administrators appointed to Alpari (UK) Ltd? If you think Leaprate will retrieve your fund (if you have any) with Alpari UK, go ahead give them all your financial details and keep deluding yourself. {quote}
Maybe is useless maybe not. Are you so sospicious to give just your email address? Come on....just ridiculous. Anyway do what you want i will do what i want. This doesn't damage me at all. We should to worry about ours money...no if they sold ours "info" (real name? email? symbolic amount with any proof?) to some broker company??? for what? for have some promoting email?? lol wow what a disaster! ahahahah i think you are nevrotic man...relax yourself.
You are free to do what you want as i'm free to sign a petition from leaprate and i know they are speculating on that but better than do nothing in my opinion and be so nevrotic and negative is not the solution.
I never give my login details to anyone or statement or anything or my data. I just gave my name and email. Nothing to be so worried. the same as i done with 4fxclub who knows this user? so i shouldn't to sign even this one no? come on...just stop this stupid suspicious and keep going to have useful info for our objective to take back ours funds. Peace.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,849
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:54am Feb 6, 2015 10:54am
Quoting paolofx99x
Good morning..I registered to Alpari on 01/12/2015 and I made de transaction before 01/15/2015...I do not know how to get back my money
Ciao paolo, how much is your amount if i can ask?
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,850
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:54am Feb 6, 2015 10:54am
Quoting neoxis
THE SITUATION AT THIS POINT: Alpari UK lost £24 million ($36 million) on Black Thursday from the Swiss Franc spike, and currently sits on $31 million of client’s negative account balances. About half of those $31 million of negative balances are attributable to just 9 customers. (As we’ve written before, we believe it will be very difficult for brokers generally to collect on negative client balances. Very few clients, if any, will voluntarily just send in a check, and if it ever gets to a courtroom are likely to argue that the implied agreement...
Could you please explain who is 'professional' client ? I notice when register with Alpari they give MT5 pro , AlpariDirect Pro account. Is this mean 'professional' client?

When I registered the account details is like this: Nature of account: Personal , Account type: Pro
  • #3,851
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:54am Feb 6, 2015 10:54am
Quoting paolofx99x
Good morning..I registered to Alpari on 01/12/2015 and I made de transaction before 01/15/2015...I do not know how to get back my money
you were just darn unlucky with the timing of funding your account

Keep an eye here https://www.insolvency-kpmg.co.uk/ca...F119D1101.html KPMG Administrators

and you could sign our online petition here http://4fx.club/petition/
  • #3,852
  • Feb 6, 2015 10:55am Feb 6, 2015 10:55am
Quoting neoxis
{quote} Yeah wookey...but ours funds are still there and as far as we know...from leaprate spokesman it seems we will be sold at the highest bidder...and we will have the possibility to chose if we want take back our money from kpmg process or being transfered to new buyer (broker) database and reactive all trading operations.
​I do not know whether the Leaprate information is correct, but true or not breaking the customer database is the most expected thing. I wrote it before that Alpari as a whole is not a great buy, but if the customers are divided into good a bad group and sold separately it will maximize and speed up the return for clients. Sale of the trademarks and IP to Alpari owners is a clear indication that KPMG gave up trying to sell Alpari, now they have to find a way to break it cleverly and sold the parts to the highest bidders.
Wookey
  • #3,853
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:01am Feb 6, 2015 11:01am
Quoting wookey
{quote} ​I do not know whether the Leaprate information is correct, but true or not breaking the customer database is the most expected thing. I wrote it before that Alpari as a whole is not a great buy, but if the customers are divided into good a bad group and sold separately it will maximize and speed up the return for clients. Sale of the trademarks and IP to Alpari owners is a clear indication that KPMG gave up trying to sell Alpari, now they have to find a way to break it cleverly and sold the parts to the highest bidders.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,854
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:08am Feb 6, 2015 11:08am
Quoting mmx007
{quote} Could you please explain who is 'professional' client ? I notice when register with Alpari they give MT5 pro , AlpariDirect Pro account. Is this mean 'professional' client? When I registered the account details is like this: Nature of account: Personal , Account type: Pro
Yep as you said it seems Alpari PRO clients are from those types of accounts and the definition of pro client is someone or an istitution than manage not their own funds but funds of others entities and they are not protected on according of CASS/FCA rules cause the company can move these funds in their balances if needed.

So in few words just retails clients (someone use his own money to operate like a single phisic person) is protected by FCA and their deposits are segregated and separate from company account.

Pro clients will need to provide a creditor claim form for have back their money or part of them.

For now as far as we know we should not need to put any claim (retails clients).
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,855
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:18am Feb 6, 2015 11:18am
Very interesting document, how long does it took to put together?
One question remains: are these 8 week a time frame to release our money or is this the time to dissect the company and sell the pieces?

What if they sell?
Does they get a commission?
If they do sell, does they still charge for the administration?


Quoting neoxis
very important a full pdf with all details of alpari uk company reported from kpmg. read it if you want know more about the company situation assets! {image}
  • #3,856
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:22am Feb 6, 2015 11:22am
Quoting neoxis
{quote} Yep as you said it seems Alpari PRO clients are from those types of accounts and the definition of pro client is someone or an istitution than manage not their own funds but funds of others entities and they are not protected on according of CASS/FCA rules cause the company can move these funds in their balances if needed. So in few words just retails clients (someone use his own money to operate like a single phisic person) is protected by FCA and their deposits are segregated and separate from company account. Pro clients will need to...
Thank you. I register as a AlpariDirect Pro account, but I don't think I am a 'professional' client. I use my own money. And when register the "nature of account" is "Personal". But the "Accout type" is "Pro", I am confused. Maybe Alpari UK does it purposely.
  • #3,857
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:23am Feb 6, 2015 11:23am
Quoting mazzara
Very interesting document, how long does it took to put together? One question remains: are these 8 week a time frame to release our money or is this the time to dissect the company and sell the pieces? What if they sell? Does they get a commission? If they do sell, does they still charge for the administration? {quote}
mazzara we can just make some assumptions on these questions.

In my opinion i think kpmg will sell us at the highest bidder and after that we can chose if we want stay with the new broker or just continue the process for be liquidated from kpmg. About charge from special administration...we still don't have any confirm.

I just post what i receive from my datafeed on internet. Cause for now KPMG is like a mummy they don't say anything with us but they just share some informations with journals.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,858
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:24am Feb 6, 2015 11:24am
Quoting mazzara
Very interesting document, how long does it took to put together? {quote}
It was put together as a marketing document when they were trying to sell the company as a whole?
  • #3,859
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:26am Feb 6, 2015 11:26am
Quoting mmx007
{quote} Thank you. I register as a AlpariDirect Pro account, but I don't think I am a 'professional' client. I use my own money. And when register the "nature of account" is "Personal". But the "Accout type" is "Pro", I am confused. Maybe Alpari UK does it purposely.
mmx007 actually i not have the correct answer about your situation. May be someone than have some info on it can give you more satisfactory answer.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,860
  • Feb 6, 2015 11:27am Feb 6, 2015 11:27am
Quoting ewinner
{quote} It was put together as a marketing document when they were trying to sell the company as a whole?
yeah sure look the date on it...it seems 19 jan when they posted it.
myfxbook: neoxis
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