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  • #3,741
  • Feb 5, 2015 10:47am Feb 5, 2015 10:47am
Quoting papamax
{quote} Do you really think KPMG is doing something they are not allowed to do?? Oh, please.....
yeah, cos that's never happened before has it LMFAO
  • #3,742
  • Edited 11:56am Feb 5, 2015 10:47am | Edited 11:56am
finally listen to speculate on. The accounts are protected and the clients who have effective January 15 generates deficits were directed at Alpari. Therefore Alpari is bankrupt as a company. And not for the accounts of clients. All in a green area hehehe. So please no negative speculation more! Whoever does not understand the whole, has already lost in our world! is arrived? Even with the stupid people? oh, has the brilliant Trader deleted his account? Maybe he knows has crashed today? hahaha
  • #3,743
  • Feb 5, 2015 10:49am Feb 5, 2015 10:49am
Quoting circochas
{quote} Read the guidelines - KPMG are following an interpretation of the rules, and if no one says anything they will get away with it too.
Ive read all handbooks, guidelines etc.
If you think they have broken the rules show me something concrete?
Until now I have been unable to find anything!
Lets see some evidence.
Their interpretation of the rules is already backed by several highly skilled lawyers so in the event of any questions over their actions, they have covered their asses.
Can your interpretation of the rules stand up to scrutiny in the eyes of the law?
If it can im with you. But I doubt it very much.
  • #3,744
  • Feb 5, 2015 10:54am Feb 5, 2015 10:54am
Quoting panhwar
i have started new thread where we can discuss steps which we can take to get our funds back. please join together. it is our money. ok i get it, some of you think that we are living in perfect world and everything is happening according to book and in our best interest possible. but just sitting and doing nothing, or doing it as individual and not in group will not help. we have to raise our voice even if everything is happening in perfect way possible. we have to become news. world needs to know our issues.here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...19#post8049119...
Follow the link guyz let's get our money back from those shit
  • #3,745
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:07am Feb 5, 2015 11:07am
I totaly agree with Jizzyjay's oppinion. At the moment we have no case for KPMG work, actions. I am waiting for tomorow, I hope there will be some good news, if any at all.
Per aspera ad astra
  • #3,746
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:24am Feb 5, 2015 11:24am
Quoting Jadgeha
{quote} Follow the link guyz let's get our money back from those shit
please explain to me how that thread is any different to this one...and why that thread will make a difference..somebody needs to start a campaign on the web and people need to sign and we need to send it to someone who can speed things up..everything else is a waste of time

u are simply kidding yourself
  • #3,747
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:25am Feb 5, 2015 11:25am
Quoting jizzyjay
{quote} Ive read all handbooks, guidelines etc. If you think they have broken the rules show me something concrete? Until now I have been unable to find anything! Lets see some evidence. Their interpretation of the rules is already backed by several highly skilled lawyers so in the event of any questions over their actions, they have covered their asses. Can your interpretation of the rules stand up to scrutiny in the eyes of the law? If it can im with you. But I doubt it very much.
OK, you're right, it's a fair cop, let's just take your advice, sit in the dark, do nothing and get robbed of our hard earned cash.

Whatever we do do, just be sure not to make any calls, write any letters, file any complaints. We'll just take your advice and do.... Nothing......

Are you sure you don't work for KPMG ???
  • #3,748
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:38am Feb 5, 2015 11:38am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote} please explain to me how that thread is any different to this one...and why that thread will make a difference..somebody needs to start a campaign on the web and people need to sign and we need to send it to someone who can speed things up..everything else is a waste of time u are simply kidding yourself
that thread is different because we will not be discussing news, and merits and demerits of doing any thing and not doing any thing. man i have been following you silently for very long time, there was time when i used to open FF just to read your opinion on cable, and thats how i became regular visitor of FF forums. i am one unknown guy who just become active after alpari insolvency, but you are one respected and senior trader on FF. you have many followers including me. people might not take me serious but everyone will listen you. it is no good sitting and doing nothing(surely you have been doing whatever you can do individually). so please join us together and lets raise our voice. at least our story should be on news. I am not perfect, my opinion might not be best, so lets ignore what i say, but we should agree that doing nothing or individually is not effective . leave funds, so far our questions are not being answered.we can ignore that new thread, but doing nothing collectively is no option
  • #3,749
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:50am Feb 5, 2015 11:50am
Richard Heis, joint special administrator of the company and partner at KPMG, said in a statement on Thursday that the administrators would continue to speak to buyers about sales of other parts of the company's business.
"We are delighted to have completed the disposal of the intellectual property assets, which will recover value for the company's creditors," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0VF4VJ20150205
  • #3,750
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:51am Feb 5, 2015 11:51am
Quoting circochas
{quote} OK, you're right, it's a fair cop, let's just take your advice, sit in the dark, do nothing and get robbed of our hard earned cash. Whatever we do do, just be sure not to make any calls, write any letters, file any complaints. We'll just take your advice and do.... Nothing...... Are you sure you don't work for KPMG ???
Wow impressive

Quoting panhwar
Richard Heis, joint special administrator of the company and partner at KPMG, said in a statement on Thursday that the administrators would continue to speak to buyers about sales of other parts of the company's business. "We are delighted to have completed the disposal of the intellectual property assets, which will recover value for the company's creditors," he said. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0VF4VJ20150205
In stand of selling the most important part which is the client data base they didn't those mother f...
  • #3,751
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:57am Feb 5, 2015 11:57am
Quoting Jadgeha
{quote} Wow impressive
I rather thought so
  • #3,752
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:58am Feb 5, 2015 11:58am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote} please explain to me how that thread is any different to this one...and why that thread will make a difference..somebody needs to start a campaign on the web and people need to sign and we need to send it to someone who can speed things up..everything else is a waste of time u are simply kidding yourself
I think the little dreamer has lost his great win, because he put his trade now.
  • #3,753
  • Feb 5, 2015 11:59am Feb 5, 2015 11:59am
Quoting circochas
{quote} OK, you're right, it's a fair cop, let's just take your advice, sit in the dark, do nothing and get robbed of our hard earned cash. Whatever we do do, just be sure not to make any calls, write any letters, file any complaints. We'll just take your advice and do.... Nothing...... Are you sure you don't work for KPMG ???
I suggest you read the whole thread before making statements like that.
If you think following your course of action will get you your funds any quicker then crack on.
Nobody has robbed me, I know where my funds are and I know the processes that have to be followed in these situations because I have taken the time to educate myself so ill stay away from all that thank you very much.
Yes I will sit back and do nothing. When KPMG put something in front of me then ill act accordingly.
Phonecalls, letters and complaints will not get me my money any quicker.
Your fighting a loosing battle, even worse your fighting it incorrectly.
I reckon in a few days you will settle down and reality will kick in.
Like I said before good luck. Your going to need it!
  • #3,754
  • Feb 5, 2015 12:01pm Feb 5, 2015 12:01pm
Quoting circochas
Has everyone here completely missed the point ? Q. My funds were held in a segregated account, why can’t they just be returned? Segregated accounts are held together with all of the firm’s client money in omnibus accounts designated as client monies at banks or exchanges/clearing houses. Pursuant to the FCA’s Client Asset rules, on insolvency all these designated accounts are pooled and any segregated client is entitled to a share in the pool on a pro-rata basis. Until the overall total of claims against the segregated pool is established, money...
You have too much time,. and no good idea. Get a job.
  • #3,755
  • Feb 5, 2015 12:04pm Feb 5, 2015 12:04pm
Take it easy guyz, no need to het angry on each other , lower ur temper , we are all angry
But it doesn t mean to to fight
We are here to speak up and discuss everything freely
  • #3,756
  • Feb 5, 2015 12:05pm Feb 5, 2015 12:05pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} You have too much time,. and no good idea. Get a job.
yessss, you have righht!!!
  • #3,757
  • Feb 5, 2015 12:18pm Feb 5, 2015 12:18pm
Quoting panhwar
{quote} that thread is different because we will not be discussing news, and merits and demerits of doing any thing and not doing any thing. man i have been following you silently for very long time, there was time when i used to open FF just to read your opinion on cable, and thats how i became regular visitor of FF forums. i am one unknown guy who just become active after alpari insolvency, but you are one respected and senior trader on FF. you have many followers including me. people might not take me serious but everyone will listen you. it...
www.4fx.club

Thank u for the compliment but honestly i dont deserve it and nobody would follow unless they want trouble
someone has started something, please people post something there
  • #3,758
  • Feb 5, 2015 12:45pm Feb 5, 2015 12:45pm
"We are delighted to have completed the disposal of the intellectual property assets, which will recover value for the company's creditors," he said

So if i'm not wrong that means they have recovered losses of creditors?? if yes is a really good news. We should to be glad about this.
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  • #3,759
  • Feb 5, 2015 1:14pm Feb 5, 2015 1:14pm
Hello everybody,

I've been following this thread for the past 2 weeks and boy there is some good energy here!

I had around 7k USD in my account before Alpari went bust, I managed to request a withdrawal but was never confirmed.

Anyway I feel the reason everybody is going crazy its because we don't have a clear picture on when will have our money back.

I opened an account with Oanda and they estimated that I should see my money back in around 90 days (that was 2 weeks ago) and that I the administration fees would not be as massive as everybody here is thinking. So i'm confident that I will see at least 80% of my funds back if not 90%.

So far the only hint of a time line is the "Several Weeks" it will take to design the claims portal which is as vague as it can be. That announcement was made last friday, by now they should have a more concise plan for this portal, including an estimated launch date.

My Opinion is that we as clients have a right to know this plan, at least to have an estimated date for this portal so we can stop pulling our hair.

KPMG has been updating their notices and reports each Friday, so I'm going to wait until tomorrow to see if there is anything relevant regarding this portal, if not I'm going to start firing emails and maybe call them (calling through skype is cheap, I'm from Mexico)

If you help me we can get a date for our peace of mind, and do not take "several weeks" for an answer.

Also, if we don't feel satisfied with their answer, then I think we have a valid reason to fill a complaint against the administrators.

Cheers.
  • #3,760
  • Feb 5, 2015 1:14pm Feb 5, 2015 1:14pm
Quoting jizzyjay
{quote} I suggest you read the whole thread before making statements like that. If you think following your course of action will get you your funds any quicker then crack on. Nobody has robbed me, I know where my funds are and I know the processes that have to be followed in these situations because I have taken the time to educate myself so ill stay away from all that thank you very much. Yes I will sit back and do nothing. When KPMG put something in front of me then ill act accordingly. Phonecalls, letters and complaints will not get me my money...
Oh I get it, you're one of the sub £100 account holders..... LMFAO

Anyone with a spine will make as much noise as possible by any means necessary at every opportunity. What's your excuse today then ?
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