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  • #421
  • Feb 4, 2015 1:38am Feb 4, 2015 1:38am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} Will be testing this over the weekend. Thanks for the great effort Abokwaik All the best Rooi
Welcome back Rooi ,

Although as I mentioned earlier that I prefer higher time frames for ALL ROBOTS discussed so far. Scalping is completely a different story.

I ran the same settings suggested out of mind in this post for lower time frames on Grand_Son_01 (without ADX), test started 2 days ago and now in profit after small drawdown.

Live run on Demo Account

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Current Account Statement

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I believe that Grand Son robot will be a good one

Regards,
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  • #422
  • Feb 4, 2015 1:51am Feb 4, 2015 1:51am
Running the same settings on Grand_Son_02 (with ADX filter on Son time frame) produced better results.

tester report :

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  • #423
  • Feb 4, 2015 2:42am Feb 4, 2015 2:42am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} Welcome back Rooi , Although as I mentioned earlier that I prefer higher time frames for ALL ROBOTS discussed so far. Scalping is completely a different story. I ran the same settings suggested out of mind in this post for lower time frames on Grand_Son_01 (without ADX), test started 2 days ago and now in profit after small drawdown. Live run on Demo Account {image} Current Account Statement {image} {image} I believe that Grand Son robot will be a good one Regards,...
I agree with you about the higher time frames but if we find it works better on smaller time frames then all the better

I cant wait to sink my teeth into this one.Might start tonight if not then the weekend.

Happy to see you running forward testing on demo.If all goes well I will join with the forward testing and will make the trade explorer public here on FF from next week Monday.

Your lab is coming along nicely

Hope you have a great day

All the best

Rooi
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  • #424
  • Edited 2:29am Feb 5, 2015 2:16am | Edited 2:29am
I have currently been trying out kijun rider 2 for a few days now on and off and decided to try it out since last night on real money
I been using it on 3 different currency pairs

anyone else been using the Kijun ? and anyone with longterm reults ?
  • #425
  • Feb 5, 2015 2:51am Feb 5, 2015 2:51am
Quoting zulufx
I have currently been trying out kijun rider 2 for a few days now on and off and decided to try it out since last night on real money I been using it on 3 different currency pairs anyone else been using the Kijun ? and anyone with longterm reults ?
I appreciate your interest Zulufx. However non of the robots discussed here are validated yet. They are all still in the back testing phase. I know some members have done some forward testing, but none were published as far as I know.

Risking real money on such robots is not advised, at least until we finish the forward testing phase, which means applying the best settings we found in back testing phase to a demo account linked to a trade explorer in a separate thread for the robot (for at least 2 months or 30 trades).

Regards,
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  • #426
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:05am Feb 5, 2015 3:05am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} I appreciate your interest Zulufx. However non of the robots discussed here are validated yet. They are all still in the back testing phase. I know some members have done some forward testing, but none were published as far as I know. Risking real money on such robots is not advised, at least until we finish the forward testing phase, which means applying the best settings we found in back testing phase to a demo account linked to a trade explorer in a separate thread for the robot (for at least 2 months or 30 trades). Regards,
i think grand son should only be applied in trending markets. In sidewa markets i had to much losses in backtest. maybe we can improve the other MTF system with a third TF and ADX? maybe thats better?
  • #427
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:08am Feb 5, 2015 3:08am
Quoting rukiver
{quote} i think grand son should only be applied in trending markets. In sidewa markets i had to much losses in backtest. maybe we can improve the other MTF system with a third TF and ADX? maybe thats better?
It depends on the time frames used, and SL and TP levels.
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  • #428
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:31am Feb 5, 2015 3:31am
Quoting rukiver
{quote} i think grand son should only be applied in trending markets. In sidewa markets i had to much losses in backtest. maybe we can improve the other MTF system with a third TF and ADX? maybe thats better?
The problem with adding more filters (which in turn have multiple inputs) is it could simply lead to Curve Fitting, This is why I prefer raw ideas that don't lean too much on indicators.

The case with Grand Son robot, is we want to follow the Higher Time Frame Trend taking the opportunities when Medium Time frame is in opposite direction of Higher time frame (so buying pull backs, or selling rallies), entries are made on the Smaller time frame when it starts to go with the Higher Time frame and while the Medium Time frame is still opposite to the Higher time frame.

I think the best way to implement this is by using only bars and a range buffer (min_pips_btw_orders input).

And definitely since this is a trend following robot it will suffer in ranging periods. This however can be minimized by increasing the min_pips_btw_orders input.
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  • #429
  • Feb 5, 2015 5:27am Feb 5, 2015 5:27am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} The problem with adding more filters (which in turn have multiple inputs) is it could simply lead to Curve Fitting, This is why I prefer raw ideas that don't lean too much on indicators. The case with Grand Son robot, is we want to follow the Higher Time Frame Trend taking the opportunities when Medium Time frame is in opposite direction of Higher time frame (so buying pull backs, or selling rallies), entries are made on the Smaller time frame when it starts to go with the Higher Time frame and while the Medium Time frame is still opposite...
hello abokwaik. I see and thats a good idea. The problem is, i think, the EA assumes that e.g. grand father H4 gives the trend. And then the trade logic you wrote will be applied. But if H4 is not trending you wil get a lot of whipsaws. As you wrote: it is a trendfollowing EA-> so it will increase gain if it finds trends and cuts losses short when we have a ranging area. Why dont open a trade when H4 ADX is above 25 and M15 (son Timeframe ) heading in the same direction with ADX strenght?

i see that you are a fast and excellent coder, otherwise i wouldnt ask you for such things.

Best regards
  • #430
  • Feb 5, 2015 5:34am Feb 5, 2015 5:34am
Quoting rukiver
{quote} hello abokwaik. I see and thats a good idea. The problem is, i think, the EA assumes that e.g. grand father H4 gives the trend. And then the trade logic you wrote will be applied. But if H4 is not trending you wil get a lot of whipsaws. As you wrote: it is a trendfollowing EA-> so it will increase gain if it finds trends and cuts losses short when we have a ranging area. Why dont open a trade when H4 ADX is above 25 and M15 (son Timeframe ) heading in the same direction with ADX strenght? i see that you are a fast and excellent coder,...
OK. I will do it. Just allow for some time as I am really involved in other issues.Thanks
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  • #431
  • Feb 5, 2015 5:49am Feb 5, 2015 5:49am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Thanks for the updates Abokwaik. I hear you re: the Filter but as yet am testing this as is. So far the Daily TF is the most stable. Testing on 20 pairs with 0.02 per $1,000. TP / SL = beginning and ending of the HA "trend". Still testing and will report my findings as I discover them. Regards, Ty
HI
Could you share your recent results with this robot? It would help us know the performance since last one month or so. If you could also share your preset files, in case this is profitable.
  • #432
  • Feb 5, 2015 6:06am Feb 5, 2015 6:06am
@SmoothTrader has reported an error in position calculation for sell orders when Lot_as_EQ_Perc is used in MA_CROSS_WT_03 Robot, as it always uses 0.1 lot size instead of a calculated one.

He even suggested the correct fix for the error, I thank him for that.

Here is the Corrected Update for MA_CROSS_WT_03 Robot

I will also update the original post for this robot.

EDIT : I couldn't update the original post, so I will just modify the link of it on the first post.
Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 MA_CROSS_WT_03.ex4   25 KB | 916 downloads
File Type: mq4 MA_CROSS_WT_03.mq4   9 KB | 1,302 downloads
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  • #433
  • Feb 5, 2015 7:37am Feb 5, 2015 7:37am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} OK. I will do it. Just allow for some time as I am really involved in other issues.Thanks
Hi I appreciate your work! i think we will get a safer EA but maybe a little bit more boring.

take your time!

best regards
  • #434
  • Feb 6, 2015 2:56am Feb 6, 2015 2:56am
Quoting anuj20jain
{quote} HI Could you share your recent results with this robot? It would help us know the performance since last one month or so. If you could also share your preset files, in case this is profitable.
Hello anuj20jain,

Please find below the details concerning the HA_Rider_v4 BOT you requested. Please forgive the overwhelming usage of "I" below. Lol.

Setfile attached.

View Trade Explorer Here:
240.9% Return in 17days (9 days if you take away the weekends)

http://www.forexfactory.com/tylamai#93

General Notes:
============================
- I trade this on 15 currency pairs (list of pairs also attached).

- I trade this on the D1 TimeFrame. Therefore, this BOT opens trades ONCE daily but on 15 pairs simultaneously IF...if the conditions are met.

- I manually intervene at times - Like choosing NOT to trade today since it's already Friday (*BOT deactivated from yesterday).

- I do NOT allow the BOT trade on Sunday Night...I only activate it on Monday so that it's first set of trades occur at the BEGINNING of the Asian session on Tuesday (please figure out how that applies to your time zone).

- NO. I do NOT trade this Live yet.


Money Management Notes:
============================
=> I do NOT trade this system using StopLosses and neither do I make use of TakeProfits.

=> I employ SET Target Percentages (30%) at which point an Equity Management EA Closes ALL trades and that's that.

=> An Equity EA also Closes ALL trades if Equity drops to 40% of the Starting Equity (e.g. $400 on a $1,000 starting equity).

=> I trade 0.10 lots per $1,000. This increases EVERY $1,000, meaning: At Equity = $2,000, Lotsize will increase to 0.20. Also note that at $3,000 I decided to maintain the 0.20 lotsize to mitigate risk.

=> Lastly, you MAY chose to GROSSLY reduce your own risk by making it 0.01 lots per $1,000, your choice.

Thanks still go to Abokwaik for coding this Monster BOT (lol, even though he can't seem to get it to work for himself!)

Regards,

Ty
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My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #435
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:03am Feb 6, 2015 3:03am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hello anuj20jain, Please find below the details concerning the HA_Rider_v4 BOT you requested. Please forgive the overwhelming usage of "I" below. Lol. Setfile attached. View Trade Explorer Here: 240.9% Return in 17days (9 days if you take away the weekends) http://www.forexfactory.com/tylamai#93 General Notes: ============================ - I trade this on 15 currency pairs (list of pairs also attached). - I trade this on the D1 TimeFrame. Therefore, this BOT opens trades ONCE daily but on 15 pairs simultaneously IF...if the conditions...
Deear Tylamai

Thanks for your files.
But there are two set files that you have shared. Which one to use and where?
Request you to let me know the same.
  • #436
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:24am Feb 6, 2015 3:24am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hello anuj20jain, Please find below the details concerning the HA_Rider_v4 BOT you requested. Please forgive the overwhelming usage of "I" below. Lol.
As I understood, you use equity EA separately? Can you post it here?
  • #437
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:31am Feb 6, 2015 3:31am
Quoting B-Naire2B
{quote} As I understood, you use equity EA separately? Can you post it here?
Could you explain me also the use of both the set files?
  • #438
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:37am Feb 6, 2015 3:37am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hello anuj20jain, Please find below the details concerning the HA_Rider_v4 BOT you requested. Please forgive the overwhelming usage of "I" below. Lol. Setfile attached. View Trade Explorer Here: 240.9% Return in 17days (9 days if you take away the weekends) http://www.forexfactory.com/tylamai#93 General Notes: ============================ - I trade this on 15 currency pairs (list of pairs also attached). - I trade this on the D1 TimeFrame. Therefore, this BOT opens trades ONCE daily but on 15 pairs simultaneously IF...if the conditions...
Hi TyLamai

Thank you for sharing your nice results and setting up a TE.

Very useful the info that you gave about the equity TP and SL you use.Maybe Abowaik can create the function for it as part of the EA.I can add it to but not sure how Abowaik will feel about it.

We might also add the function of days and times to trade and not to trade like you specified.

What do you and Abowaik think about creating a thread for the robot itself and we can compare and discuss it and have all the info about it in one place.Theses are just suggestions to consider.Im just along for the ride and its up to Abowaik and you to decide how to best move forward seeing as you are getting some nice results and he made the EA

All the best

Rooi
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  • #439
  • Feb 6, 2015 3:55am Feb 6, 2015 3:55am
if you like robots Abokwaik, there is an interesting strategy based on the invert sucker way of trading. I simulated it one time
its a long term strategy.

buy or sell microlot at random with a rather tight stop loss
and average up your position each time it goes more in your favor for say 30 pips
close the position either when the difference is 800 pip in you favor from the first entry
or because price took the stop of your first entry.

you will have a stair case equity curve

why it works ?
because its exactly the opposite of the looser that average down and take the profit early
  • #440
  • Feb 6, 2015 4:41am Feb 6, 2015 4:41am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Hello anuj20jain, Please find below the details concerning the HA_Rider_v4 BOT you requested. Please forgive the overwhelming usage of "I" below. Lol. Setfile attached. View Trade Explorer Here: 240.9% Return in 17days (9 days if you take away the weekends) http://www.forexfactory.com/tylamai#93 General Notes: ============================ - I trade this on 15 currency pairs (list of pairs also attached). - I trade this on the D1 TimeFrame. Therefore, this BOT opens trades ONCE daily but on 15 pairs simultaneously IF...if the conditions...
Very exciting Ty

Trend following bots will perform well trading daily or weekly time frames. Applying that to a basket will minmize the risk.

Good job Ty
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