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  • #957,421
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:22am Feb 4, 2015 9:22am
Quoting mrcreosote
{quote} {image}
mmm whats the name of that cought fish on left?
  • #957,422
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:26am Feb 4, 2015 9:26am
Quoting goldfinch
{quote} The fat one in the lawnchair? Who cares. That's what is known in the trade as a beached whale......
Whoops i meant middle.
  • #957,423
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:28am Feb 4, 2015 9:28am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} Hm on my charts H1 close is holding. Brokers difference? http://prntscr.com/60z7xj
i would have preferred 117.61. but when there, a -117.42 close hadn't recurred.. i am in the wind atm.. i can pull +6 or wait and c
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,424
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:36am Feb 4, 2015 9:36am
Quoting goldfinch
Any room left in Cushing?
everything is mostly full... tankers are filling still.. then the pop
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,425
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:42am Feb 4, 2015 9:42am
Quoting goldfinch
{quote} Baltic at an alltime low, there is some storage left, but you are right, when it is going to pop it will be a heck of a ride. Getting in at the right price will make legends of some.
baltic has a lot of non liquids,, use plain old oil shippers stock prices compared to dry shippers stock prices as a confirmation..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,426
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:43am Feb 4, 2015 9:43am
Quoting goldfinch
{quote} Baltic at an alltime low, there is some storage left, but you are right, when it is going to pop it will be a heck of a ride. Getting in at the right price will make legends of some. I am watching the rig count closely too, there is a trade to be had there once it all lines up.
So there's still massive oversupply and you're expecting a big pop to the downside?
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #957,427
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:50am Feb 4, 2015 9:50am
Quoting goldfinch
{quote} I am. I am also tracking the prices on the used market and the orderbooks. I don't normally trade commodities but I may well make an exception on this one. Worth a punt sometime this spring and just let her run until the autumn. {quote} Think that through a bit more, what do you think storage is doing to the demand side. You are thinking about the wrong side of the equation.
hmm interesting, I suppose as the weather gets warmer there should be even less demand for the dirty stuff too....
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #957,428
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:52am Feb 4, 2015 9:52am
Quoting mrcreosote
{quote} So there's still massive oversupply and you're expecting a big pop to the downside?
when the storage is full? where do u put it? and when the storage is full. why would one continue to buy, with no place to store it? and when that storage buying stops, what happens to demand already lower, and price. :nerd: what would encourage one to go against that? other then Goldman screaming 200$ pb, whats different this time?

contrary to what politicians in office said. this is where the margin calls started.. when liquidity started drying up, leading to other markets
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,429
  • Feb 4, 2015 9:55am Feb 4, 2015 9:55am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} when the storage is full? where do u put it? and when the storage is full. why would one continue to buy, with no place to store it? and when that storage buying stops, what happens to demand already lower, and price
well yeah, I was thinking $10 a barrel!
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #957,430
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:00am Feb 4, 2015 10:00am
Quoting 3Davy
Manufactering orders positive and we go up. Pure manipulation. Happy I didn't short it.

It is really laughable that any move, which can not be explained, is labelled as "manipulation"
  • #957,431
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:03am Feb 4, 2015 10:03am
Quoting goldfinch
{quote} It is not going to 10, supply will get hit at 30, the trade is not the supply trade, it is the demand trade, that will make a killing if you get in at the right price. That is the one I will be watching. As always the real money is made as a contrarian, the same in currencies. Trend trading is for fools, I don't follow a herd, never have never will. I don't want to be one of many, I want to be on my own. History never mentions trend traders, legends are made of those that stand out from the crowd.
You sound like me, we should get together and rule the world lol
Quote from reuters:
Jan 29 (Reuters) - U.S. commercial crude oil stocks last week hit their highest level since 1931 - when the opening of giant oil fields in the United States coincided with the Great Depression to create an enormous glut and sent prices tumbling to just 13 cents per barrel.
Commercial crude stocks at refineries and tank farms across the country rose to almost 407 million barrels on Jan 23, up from 398 million the week before, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
So you're buying at 30 bucks and holding to the vampire squid target of 200 bucks?
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #957,432
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:04am Feb 4, 2015 10:04am
closing uj.. at b.e.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,433
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:07am Feb 4, 2015 10:07am
Hey Guys.


I just got this info from nettotrade.

US market reversal trading opportunity

The meteoric rise in the dollar might be over as US market data reverses, echoing the global economic weakness.

The currency is still holding strong, in spite of the GDP collapse from 5.00% to 2.60%, but any disappointment in Friday's Non-Farm Payrolls expectations will probably increase the pace of the USD pullback. Aside from the recent drop in unemployment, spending and consumption have fallen, and weakness in the energy sector is spurring massive layoffs. Friday's NFP figure is aiming at 230,000 jobs added for January, but expectations range from 215,000-275,000.

With such a wide margin, the week's volatility in USD-related pairs is bound to be high - an excellent investment opportunity for NetoTraders.


Time will tell but we have Dragi he.


  • #957,434
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:07am Feb 4, 2015 10:07am
Quoting mrcreosote
{quote} well yeah, I was thinking $10 a barrel!
dont interpret that as one way or the other, i am wrong often. as for me, i wouldn't be long oil no matter what atm. maybe at 35 with a gun to my head. other then that to me, its not worth the r/r
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #957,435
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:19am Feb 4, 2015 10:19am
Quoting mxer4
{quote} If you reach this i shall buy you a beer
I really need a beer right now ...
  • #957,436
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:24am Feb 4, 2015 10:24am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} dont interpret that as one way or the other, i am wrong often. as for me, i wouldn't be long oil no matter what atm. maybe at 35 with a gun to my head. other then that to me, its not worth the r/r
sure, just trying to get an idea how low it could go, sounds like finchy is 'all in' at 30 bucks

what is it with mississippi, alabama and west virginia in the states? Some economist 'guru' is comparing them to Greece, in that the government has been giving billions to 'basket case' areas since the American revolution so therefore Europe should just 'throw' a few billion to the Greeks as well, hmmmmm
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #957,437
  • Edited 11:07am Feb 4, 2015 10:28am | Edited 11:07am
Does any of you here actually trade? i just sold another one here at 1427..
  • #957,438
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:34am Feb 4, 2015 10:34am
Quoting BlueGas
{quote} I really need a beer right now ...
So funny because i was just about to post i think i owe somebody a beer soon!
  • #957,439
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:35am Feb 4, 2015 10:35am
Quoting BlueGas
Does any of you here actually trade? i just sold another one here at 11427
Short @ 1.1418 TP 1.1380
  • #957,440
  • Feb 4, 2015 10:35am Feb 4, 2015 10:35am
Quoting BlueGas
Does any of you here actually trade? i just sold another one here at 11427
Wrong thread, this is the off topic thread
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