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  • #7,321
  • Feb 1, 2015 4:29pm Feb 1, 2015 4:29pm
Quoting demp
{quote} Informative video as always Seller, keep up the good work. Did you get my message about the CCI indicator, per chance?
OK, just checked and I see it and will take a look in a day or two, super bowl is next on my time frame.

If it looks like it will work and it has been proven to work I could add it, I just don't want to start adding every indicator under the Sun to the BT.
I have been through that in the ETB forum, everyone has their favorite indy and are making tons of money with it, as they always say.

But I am always looking for the Holy Grail, just like everyone else.

I think Sam found his, if he would only let the cat out of the bag.
  • #7,322
  • Feb 1, 2015 4:45pm Feb 1, 2015 4:45pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} OK, just checked and I see it and will take a look in a day or two, super bowl is next on my time frame. If it looks like it will work and it has been proven to work I could add it, I just don't want to start adding every indicator under the Sun to the BT. I have been through that in the ETB forum, everyone has their favorite indy and are making tons of money with it, as they always say. But I am always looking for the Holy Grail, just like everyone else. I think Sam found his, if he would only let the cat out of the bag.
It has worked for a few of us (Kosomolate included) and combined with your EA it has serious potential for some grail-like profits :-)
It seems that it's working best on specific basket and tf, from what I've found the best results are from jpy7 h1, c5 h4 and usd4 h4.

Enjoy the super bowl and don't hesitate to ask me if you're wondering something about the CCI basket trading (see also my .mq4 I sent you for my try at an EA )

Take care
  • #7,323
  • Feb 1, 2015 4:49pm Feb 1, 2015 4:49pm
Quoting demp
{quote} It has worked for a few of us (Kosomolate included) and combined with your EA it has serious potential for some grail-like profits :-) It seems that it's working best on specific basket and tf, from what I've found the best results are from jpy7 h1, c5 h4 and usd4 h4. Enjoy the super bowl and don't hesitate to ask me if you're wondering something about the CCI basket trading (see also my .mq4 I sent you for my try at an EA ) Take care
So all your doing is buying when crossing the +100 and selling when crossing the -100 levels with the CCI of 14?

You will need to show some examples of some real trades that have been taken using this method.
  • #7,324
  • Feb 1, 2015 4:57pm Feb 1, 2015 4:57pm
Quoting Hotpotato
Pipy, I have a slightly different pick of pairs (probably a whole different approach) and just to compare the two i will run your picks next to mine. Are you trading all mentioned pairs ?
These are what I regard to be candidates. The idea is to only trade those which are actually taking off; I'd like to avoid those pairs going sideways or (worse) against me. If the spread of a particular pair is too high, I might omit that one too. Be interesting to see what you have picked and how that works out.
It takes courage to grow up and become who you really are - E.E. Cummings
  • #7,325
  • Feb 1, 2015 5:26pm Feb 1, 2015 5:26pm
Quoting mvp77
{quote} When did you determined this basket?
Right before I posted it. I omitted the pairs going sideways without news coming up, and I included pairs not running into S/R either trending or sideways with news coming up. Not sure if I'm being clear here, not an exact science. These are ideas and nothing more, if the presuppositions change then all bets are off.
It takes courage to grow up and become who you really are - E.E. Cummings
  • #7,326
  • Edited Feb 2, 2015 7:19pm Feb 1, 2015 10:19pm | Edited Feb 2, 2015 7:19pm
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi guys, I wish to continue my explanation regarding Trend Analysis methodology and its outcome. Before I continue, I would like to inform you that the MTF Trend Strength indicator and Trend Analysis spreadsheet are not the same indicator but you can use both as a trading strategy and monitoring purposes. MTF Trend Strength indi is a real time indi to determine the X,Y and Z Factor for overall pair movement which the entry execution when all 3 factors/filters are synchronized or agree upon each other. As for Trend Analysis are used at an...
Dear bro Kopra;

Thank you so much, you many hours work do help us a lot to understand how to see your trend analysis. the manual calculation for one table thought to have an error is termed out to be my misunderstanding, a duplicate version for people who wants to have it.

say if you have this data from post#7173, then just enter 1 for green, -1 for red, 0 if undetermined on each pairs, the up/down arrow will show according to the value

then it will create a similar result like yours on next page.

I also make background different if reverse pair in each basket. please let me know if you have question. sorry, i do not know how to arrange it anyway.. thx

EDIT: fixed per Kopra's formula. thx
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File Type: xlsx TrendAnalysis per kopra.xlsx   23 KB | 466 downloads
  • #7,327
  • Feb 1, 2015 11:57pm Feb 1, 2015 11:57pm
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi guys, I wish to continue my explanation regarding Trend Analysis methodology and its outcome. Before I continue, I would like to inform you that the MTF Trend Strength indicator and Trend Analysis spreadsheet are not the same indicator but you can use both as a trading strategy and monitoring purposes. MTF Trend Strength indi is a real time indi to determine the X,Y and Z Factor for overall pair movement which the entry execution when all 3 factors/filters are synchronized or agree upon each other. As for Trend Analysis are used at an...
kopratasai.am humbled at the effort and hard work you do in this thread.ive spend many hours reading and am.greatful to you.and seller9..as well as some others toocan i ask...for those of us here in this group who struggle.and are not able to produce such work to.aid with basket trading...could.you.do a full losting on what you do.and look for.to make your baskets with your trend analysis and possible share all spreadsheets indicators for.all to.use and enjoy?
  • #7,328
  • Feb 2, 2015 12:00am Feb 2, 2015 12:00am
Quoting Smknyc
CORE / CROSS SPLITS - Feb 2 - 6 http://smarturl.it/SMKNYC {image}
fantastic postings buddydid you.get my shout out?Nice to see a fellow guy from uk..not many of us aboutdrop.me a [email protected]
  • #7,329
  • Feb 2, 2015 12:33am Feb 2, 2015 12:33am
Quoting FXyao
{quote} Dear bro Kopra; Thank you so much, you many hours work do help us a lot to understand how to see your trend analysis. but I found out manual calculation for one table has a little error below, therefore I try to duplicate your work to make it a little simpler for people who wants to have it. the error is here.. say if you have this data from post#7173, then just enter 1 for green, -1 for red, 0 if undetermined on each pairs, the up/down arrow will show according to the value then it will create a similar result like yours on next page. I...
Hi bro FX yao,

1 and -1 are use for up bar and down bar for MTF Trend Analysis input data but for TS calculation, 1,0,-1 is consider ranging.
Pls check this screen shot below for the formula and its calculation.
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The data input are from Asian session when the 2nd bar is closed. If the bar is closed up bar, the input is 1 and vice versa.
After that we will calculate the overall Trend in TS where the Pointer guide are referred.

I am not using the MTF Trend Strength indi colors (Red/Green) to input the data because the method of measurement input is not the same for analysis spreadsheet. Anyhow you still can try to do this input base on colors and check the result if this input method able to give better trading outcome.

Btw my dear friend, herewith I attach a copy of my Trend Analysis Spreadsheet for your usage.
Pls always confirm the calculation range are correct at all time because our pc and software format version maybe not the same and might give you error or incorrect value. You can correct the formula range if you found any error occurred.

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File Type: xlsx Main Trend Analysis.xlsx   85 KB | 576 downloads


All the best and keep trying and practicing.

Regards
Kopra
You do good, Good will come to you. Self deception never succeed.
  • #7,330
  • Feb 2, 2015 1:34am Feb 2, 2015 1:34am
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi bro FX yao, 1 and -1 are use for up bar and down bar for MTF Trend Analysis input data but for TS calculation, 1,0,-1 is consider ranging. Pls check this screen shot below for the formula and its calculation. {image} The data input are from Asian session when the 2nd bar is closed. If the bar is closed up bar, the input is 1 and vice versa. After that we will calculate the overall Trend in TS where the Pointer guide are referred. I am not using the MTF Trend Strength indi colors (Red/Green) to input the data because the method of measurement...

Hello Kopra Tasa FXyao and everyone.

Thanks for the excel files.

In both of the file i can see only number and NO arrow,it is normal,or need to change some setting on excel?

Thanks in advance
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  • #7,331
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:00am Feb 2, 2015 2:00am
Seller9

fantastic job you have done here

Im reading thru the posts and watching the videos and cant help.but ask the queation with what others are comming up with.

could there be an option be made available for the computer to come up with a list of pairs for the basket based on options.
eg.same currency eg usd
Strength
trend

etc

so users have the option to take 8 ball depending on which option they select as tru or false.

maybe this option could pop out when you.click.the 8ball which i always on screen
  • #7,332
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:07am Feb 2, 2015 2:07am
Wow KopraTasa, you are just too kind!!!
Beautiful work, and Thank you So much!!
  • #7,333
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:13am Feb 2, 2015 2:13am
Quoting Coolbudz223
Wow KopraTasa, you are just too kind!!! Beautiful work, and Thank you So much!!
how is the spreadsheet populated?Manual or auto?If manual....how?
  • #7,334
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:24am Feb 2, 2015 2:24am
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi bro FX yao, 1 and -1 are use for up bar and down bar for MTF Trend Analysis input data but for TS calculation, 1,0,-1 is consider ranging. Pls check this screen shot below for the formula and its calculation. {image} The data input are from Asian session when the 2nd bar is closed. If the bar is closed up bar, the input is 1 and vice versa. After that we will calculate the overall Trend in TS where the Pointer guide are referred. I am not using the MTF Trend Strength indi colors (Red/Green) to input the data because the method of measurement...
Dear bro Kopra, Thank you so much for pointing the correct way to handle the trend value in your file. In order not to mislead people who already have downloaded the spreadsheet i will re-post it when fix the trend direction. regards, yao
  • #7,335
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:26am Feb 2, 2015 2:26am
Quoting devontrader
{quote} how is the spreadsheet populated?Manual or auto?If manual....how?
Its manual right now, how? By double clicking the arrows thus revealing a +1, -1, or 0. You determine the +1, -1, or 0s presumably by a chart.
Tedious? Yes, Kopra said it took him an hour and a half to update it, but it makes money so its worth it.

However, maybe a good programmer will be willing to take on the job to modify it to auto update?
  • #7,336
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:27am Feb 2, 2015 2:27am
Quoting howa61
{quote} Hello Kopra Tasa FXyao and everyone. Thanks for the excel files. In both of the file i can see only number and NO arrow,it is normal,or need to change some setting on excel? Thanks in advance {image}
howa;

i believed you need ms excel 2007 or above version. thx
  • #7,337
  • Feb 2, 2015 2:50am Feb 2, 2015 2:50am
Quoting FXyao
{quote} howa; i believed you need ms excel 2007 or above version. thx
Thanks for your answer FXyao.

Yes i have excel 2007 but no arrow,anybody have same versio then mine can tell me if work or not.

Thanks in advance
  • #7,338
  • Edited 4:42am Feb 2, 2015 3:32am | Edited 4:42am
Quoting seller9
{quote} So all your doing is buying when crossing the +100 and selling when crossing the -100 levels with the CCI of 14? You will need to show some examples of some real trades that have been taken using this method.
I've found the best settings are to set the overbought/oversold to 0, and using a CCI period of 140 (Typical price) gives this smooth curves on jpy7 h1:
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Note that in this case, with a max bars settings of 1000, there's 100% wins. Using other pairs and TF's does not give as good results, but there is some other settings that also produce 100% or near-to 100% wins.


I'm also attaching the indicator and the template I'm using here if you want to test further with my settings. Of course, as is the whole philosophy of the basket trader, I believe one could find better settings/TF's/basket pairs if just given some experimental room.

I believe this fills the role of the overall feeling of this basket trading EA: KIS. Just looking at the chart I posted (once you get the settings right) it's quite simple to trade, both manual and automatic.

Let me know what you feel and if any others also have something to add?

Regards
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File Type: tpl CCI bars.tpl   1 KB | 404 downloads
File Type: mq4 CCI_CustomCandles.mq4   3 KB | 423 downloads
  • #7,339
  • Edited 3:55am Feb 2, 2015 3:35am | Edited 3:55am
Kopra,

You are an excel(lent) wizard.

Thanks.
info@metacharttools,com
  • #7,340
  • Feb 2, 2015 4:59am Feb 2, 2015 4:59am
Quoting Coolbudz223
{quote} Its manual right now, how? By double clicking the arrows thus revealing a +1, -1, or 0. You determine the +1, -1, or 0s presumably by a chart. Tedious? Yes, Kopra said it took him an hour and a half to update it, but it makes money so its worth it. However, maybe a good programmer will be willing to take on the job to modify it to auto update?
yes i agree and if made auto then could be included by seller9.possibly by clicking 8ball.be good also for an option to clicj so recommended baskets are given
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