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  • #954,701
  • Jan 26, 2015 6:49pm Jan 26, 2015 6:49pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Its not for everyone, I guess, I don't really care about withdrawal methods, I always use a bank wire, fees, I never noticed any fees, other than wire fees, maybe they have some, but its not really my #1 priority to save $20 on deposit fees.
You guys in US are superfine with fees. I pay like 5% only to my facking bank because of CZK spread! Well now feckers lowered it to 2%, but pre ECB it was terrible.
Was 4% spread + 1% transaction fee + some other stupid fees = like 5,2% of sended amount. After this event pre ECB have made a new bank account - but not saving much, still @ 3% for transaction.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #954,702
  • Jan 26, 2015 6:52pm Jan 26, 2015 6:52pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} You guys in US are superfine with fees. I pay like 5% only to my facking bank because of CZK spread! Well now feckers lowered it to 2%, but pre ECB it was terrible.
I am not in the US, but 5% is crazy...didn't EU cancel the bank transfer fees within the Union?
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #954,703
  • Jan 26, 2015 6:55pm Jan 26, 2015 6:55pm
Quoting Geppy
{quote} The more of those free trades you can get on, the better. Focus on simplicity, but not too simple. Trade with the trend and pay attention to support/resistance. You'll be fine if you can do that.
This is more or less exactly what i try to do. KISS method Draw a fib from the monthly/weekly/daily charts then wait for the trend to develop at the fibo levels and middle numbers on the fibs. Then just be patient and don't get greedy when I have a trade going good. Small amounts have been adding up. I used zero indicators, MA's etc. Pure support/resistance that is already on the chart from years/months prior. Btw, I checked out your blog last night and will try to follow along and post some of what I'm trying to do there as well. Thanks for posting that.
  • #954,704
  • Jan 26, 2015 6:56pm Jan 26, 2015 6:56pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} I am not in the US, but 5% is crazy...didn't EU cancel the bank transfer fees within the Union?
It's not the fee, it's gigantic spread...A method to mess with EU.
  • #954,705
  • Jan 26, 2015 6:59pm Jan 26, 2015 6:59pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} I am not in the US, but 5% is crazy...didn't EU cancel the bank transfer fees within the Union?
Dunno, perhaps in EMU, but we aint in. Nevertheless, think it is not even in EMU. Capital flow is stuck. Will be making third bank account after tomorrows exams which will be denominated in USD. Screw our currency .
Edit: And besides, thats not a "fee" it is a spread... They always find an excuse.
Quoting Dovilo
{quote} It's not the fee, it's gigantic spread...A method to mess with EU.
Yup. CZK pretty illiquid.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #954,706
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:00pm Jan 26, 2015 7:00pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Its not for everyone, I guess, I don't really care about withdrawal methods, I always use a bank wire, fees, I never noticed any fees, other than wire fees, maybe they have some, but its not really my #1 priority to save $20 on deposit fees. {quote} Don't worry, the government knows about all your transactions, bank or no bank.
Nope , you don't need to be a geek to learn how to hide your transactions from your gov , let alone those crypto-currency which make it way more difficult to track your money , so if your gov is a bitch and I am not saying it is , paying tax to these feckers is a pain in the ass , so no thx , am using electronic offshore banks .

P.S: maybe I would need to delete this info later
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  • #954,707
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:03pm Jan 26, 2015 7:03pm
Quoting Dovilo
{quote} It's not the fee, it's gigantic spread...A method to mess with EU.
Ah, sorry, I just read it again, I completely forgot how it feels to be ripped off by the bank just by changing currency. Luckily, I can pay with $ everywhere outside of EU.

Quoting hoom
{quote} Nope , you don't need to be a geek to learn how to hide your transactions from your gov , let alone those crypto-currency which make it way more difficult to track your money , so if your gov is a bitch and I am not saying it is , paying tax to these feckers is a pain in the ass , so no thx , am using electronic offshore banks . P.S: maybe I would need to delete this info later
Well, you need to be a little geek...it can be done...not as easy as it sounds, but everyone who knows how things work, can do it. Its not impossible, of course.

But just settings up an offshore account like that...thats not the way to do it. I won't go into details here.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #954,708
  • Edited 7:10pm Jan 26, 2015 7:08pm | Edited 7:10pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Ah, sorry, I just read it again, I completely forgot how it feels to be ripped off by the bank just by changing currency. Luckily, I can pay with $ everywhere outside of EU.
Yes, feckers ripped me of 5% right at start so I was starting with quite some loss. But already +2,37%, UJ SL at +1,9 and making that USD account, they wont get me .
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #954,709
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:20pm Jan 26, 2015 7:20pm
Guys, can you help me? I gotta learn this for tomorrows exams and have no clue wtf does that mean. It is supposed to be something with FRA oscillating @ IR. Seriously speaking, i skip this nonscence.
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  • #954,710
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:28pm Jan 26, 2015 7:28pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} I am not in the US, but 5% is crazy...didn't EU cancel the bank transfer fees within the Union?
well i pay 30eurocent up to 999euros transfer out a 1euro commission up to 10k... and the incoming are free of charge (even the currency exchange takes place at market prices with no added commission )

but all the other banks in greece have at least 1euro outgoing and 4euro incoming (for the min transactions)

and the transactions take place very quick in alpari a transaction in/out would take 5-6 hrs (on working days) and at orbex it takes 1-2 hrs in/out (in/out=withdraw from broker/deposit-credited to broker)
  • #954,711
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:35pm Jan 26, 2015 7:35pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Dunno, perhaps in EMU, but we aint in. Nevertheless, think it is not even in EMU. Capital flow is stuck. Will be making third bank account after tomorrows exams which will be denominated in USD. Screw our currency . Edit: And besides, thats not a "fee" it is a spread... They always find an excuse. {quote} Yup. CZK pretty illiquid.
It has nothing to do with liqudity really. It's just a way for bank to rip peoples off
  • #954,712
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:42pm Jan 26, 2015 7:42pm
Quoting hoom
UJ has entered a wide bull range , let the music play , eurusd ain't a saint at the moment
your words in the markets ear! let UJ bulls kick some ass!
  • #954,713
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:45pm Jan 26, 2015 7:45pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Check Tallinex, I have been using them for over a year and so far I am very happy.
hm, ok will check them out, thanks. the name sounds familiar, if you use them, that says something
  • #954,714
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:50pm Jan 26, 2015 7:50pm
Gotta throw one in there for Oanda.

Deposited, withdrawn in the thousands (not more than 10k though) through paypal, and have never been more than a couple minutes without my money.

Originally deposited through bank wire which took 14 days.

You saw how they treated everyone throughout the francageddon.

Im US. The big one for me is withdrawing and depositing easily. Making pips is worthless if you cant access your profits.
  • #954,715
  • Jan 26, 2015 7:58pm Jan 26, 2015 7:58pm
Quoting mkvy
{quote} yes, im fine with my signature... not afraid to hide failure
  • #954,716
  • Jan 26, 2015 8:01pm Jan 26, 2015 8:01pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Wee, please dont do 200:1. Mostly offshore thieves offer such contracts and you dont want to deal with those guys. Stay below 50 I tell you.
i think you will find many well regulated brokers offer higher then 50/1 specially for some investments. it's just that in the US they can't offer more. even well regulated ecn brokers seem to offer more. it's not that you have to use it for every trade, but it's cool to have the option for certain trades. anyway most offer you the choice, so i will have to decide. nice would be to be able to decide trade by trade. thanks for the warning though, i do appreciate it. i see every time i do a bad trade what the leverage does to my account
  • #954,717
  • Jan 26, 2015 8:04pm Jan 26, 2015 8:04pm
Quoting WeeMee
{quote} i think you will find many well regulated brokers offer higher then 50/1 specially for some investments. it's just that in the US they can't offer more. even well regulated ecn brokers seem to offer more. it's not that you have to use it for every trade, but it's cool to have the option for certain trades. anyway most offer you the choice, so i will have to decide. nice would be to be able to decide trade by trade. thanks for the warning though, i do appreciate it. i see every time i do a bad trade what the leverage does to my account ...
There is another issue with max leverage being 1:50 and thats the available margin. If the broker doesn't offer more than 1:50, its hard to open a trade even at 1:30, because 10 pip loss might kill the trade automatically because of margin. So if a broker has 1:200 or higher, that doesn't mean it has to be used to the fullest, but it helps even for trades with lower leverage, so the trades aren't stopped out too soon.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #954,718
  • Jan 26, 2015 8:08pm Jan 26, 2015 8:08pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} There is another issue with max leverage being 1:50 and thats the available margin. If the broker doesn't offer more than 1:50, its hard to open a trade even at 1:30, because 10 pip loss might kill the trade automatically because of margin. So if a broker has 1:200 or higher, that doesn't mean it has to be used to the fullest, but it helps even for trades with lower leverage, so the trades aren't stopped out too soon.
Fully accept.

My Broker offers 1: 300 and it helps me a lot.
Intraday only.
  • #954,719
  • Jan 26, 2015 9:36pm Jan 26, 2015 9:36pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Fully accept. My Broker offers 1: 300 and it helps me a lot.
you better be sure your broker is a good one. FXCM and Alpari who offered high leverage accounts died...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #954,720
  • Jan 26, 2015 9:41pm Jan 26, 2015 9:41pm
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} you better be sure your broker is a good one. FXCM and Alpari who offered high leverage accounts died...
I use max. 50 % of leverage. 300 Leverage is useful to manage trades.

In the initial days, I ( unknowingly ) used up full leverage, now I just use it.
Intraday only.
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