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  • #951,261
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:39am Jan 16, 2015 8:39am
Quoting OnlineAddict
Not a good story, thanks for sharing, might helps others be cautious about them.
Well too late now when they r already bust, isnt it? I just dont want to accuse anyone nonguilty, so am pretty carefull before I write something here. But this! Now tell me how can I get along with Russians and have no prejudice. FO Russia!
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #951,262
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:39am Jan 16, 2015 8:39am
Quoting MarianneOslo
{quote} This will make unstability in the whole Europe because people are not able to pay their loans. This is not only a swiss problem . The swiss has lost control of their currency. minus 0,75% in interest rent means nothing compared to 20% currency increase. The swiss will go into resession with this Since 2007 the CHF is doubled towards NOK. The goverment is so happy abouth the low NOK. Yes we have a falling oil price but only 3,5 % unemployment. The housing market rises 5% every year We are self made by enegrgi and we have the worlds biggest...
whats the calculation change of people having to convert euros to swiss. to now pay a mortgage? ec was above 1.2 and now 1 ish, and may drop even more. many in places with already bad ez economies like Greece will default. many defaults will be absorbed by the Swiss bank holding that mortgage. in turn those swiss banks will sell those bad debt properties at a discount. those discounts will weigh on all the nearby property values. and those will affect the mortgage value of those financed through a European bank. This can be systemic for all ez banks.. the fall of housing values. at this point even the ones able to afford the Swiss loan. may walk away because they will be paying even more, for a house worth even less... a overnight rise of 20ish% is a bad mofu.. bad enough to bankrupt/breakup the ecb

more pressure to inflate even more then a week ago
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #951,263
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:43am Jan 16, 2015 8:43am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Well too late now when they r already bust, isnt it? I just dont want to accuse anyone nonguilty, so am pretty carefull before I write something here. But this! Now tell me how can I get along with Russians and have no prejudice. FO Russia!
Busted? Dukascopy is still working, isn't it?
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #951,264
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:43am Jan 16, 2015 8:43am
Quoting USD-Bear
{quote} done
Nicely call. I don't think its much juice left today beyond 1.154x.

In any case, FXCM halted so next in the list...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #951,265
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:44am Jan 16, 2015 8:44am
Quoting JimmyC
@Gator I count 3 brokers gone so far, how many have you heard of? And I trust we don't need to explain to anyone why stop losses are an important tool....? Black swan event 1 for 2015
ecn i heard is in trouble
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #951,266
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:44am Jan 16, 2015 8:44am
gator, that's why I am thinking less than parity and it's going to be swift. There are dollars to made off this still but what is the best play? e crosses?
  • #951,267
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:47am Jan 16, 2015 8:47am
You guys heard anything from MB trading?
As of yesterday they were at least pretending to be unconcerned but if FXCM and Alipari both go under, I'd have to think they'll follow.
Even on Europeans they cap the leverage at 1:50 so maybe that helped them a bit
  • #951,268
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:48am Jan 16, 2015 8:48am
Quoting OnlineAddict
Busted? Dukascopy is still working, isn't it?
Yeh, but thought Alpar! is busted.
Edit: Ah, you meant story of my loss at russian Dukas.
I meant your story at russian Alpar!.

Both are imo pretty helpfull. Pain usually is.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #951,269
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:50am Jan 16, 2015 8:50am
Quoting LarryDarrell
Have been thinking about the SNB action a bit. Although I have be thoroughly surprised and caught on the wrong foot, I think I get what they are doing: biting the bullet and end the mess before it causes systemic pain in their country. I'm not saying this move doesn't cause problems for them short-term (1-3 years), but they have to try to insulate from the Eurozone. This was a massive vote of no confidence in the policies of european states and shows their doubt about the ECB measures that are to be taken. Worth screwing their own reputation, worth...
With the way the SNB's reserve looks, they needed to let go of the cap in order to untie their hands for getting rid of the 500 bln euros they've accumulated. The euro is headed towards parity with the dollar and nothing can stop it.
  • #951,270
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:50am Jan 16, 2015 8:50am
Quoting sisse
{quote} True but the main problem of the move wasn't actually the policy (taking out the BAND) but the way the did it. They really meet the stereotypes with the announcement "a la suisse". Arrogant and in complete isolation of the rest of the "world". World in this case meaning their own major companies, investment funds, the financial markets impact, their neighbourhoods, the world economy....not even the IMF was informed.... They could have done the same in different ways. The SNB just 2 days ago guarantee the floor. Companies and investor made...
lol ... so SNB should react in a friendly matter.. so, friendly selling of chf by SNB for all the poor beggarz out there who didnt see that coming rite?
such a friendly place
  • #951,271
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:51am Jan 16, 2015 8:51am
Quoting sisse
{quote} They just confirmed next victim of yesterday move. ALPARI went bust !!!... this is not over yet. More to come. sisse
damn
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #951,272
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:54am Jan 16, 2015 8:54am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Yeh, but thought Alpar! is busted.
Yeah, well, nothing we can do about it now...do you know who the owners of Alpari are?
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #951,273
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:55am Jan 16, 2015 8:55am
Quoting sisse
{quote} Indeed. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Brokers are in panic mode making announcement everywhere. It reminds me weeks before Lehamn collapsed and the plethora of insolvent banks were saying "we are ok" before they went all bust after... Whatever the case, its going to be massive repercusion in FX exchange markets and I am afraid most of retail clients will pay the price of the regulation. We maybe witnessing the end of Forex trading for retail as we known (and that included forexfactory as a collateral )... sisse
i dont see the 1-500 leverage bragging much anymore. u.s. was down 50 to 1. even that may change. golden was bent over too..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #951,274
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:57am Jan 16, 2015 8:57am
time for a mini bounce over 1.155? if it does hold that line, can try for kumo 1.159
----- Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know
  • #951,275
  • Edited 9:10am Jan 16, 2015 8:58am | Edited 9:10am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Yeah, well, nothing we can do about it now...do you know who the owners of Alpari are?
Omg mate am spilling hate here for half an hour already. Facking Russians!
Edit: Sorry I know I make conversation confused sometimes coz of constant editing posts. Would like to chat, but NY online, breaking lows on EU, UJ testing mid of zone. Dont want to spam much.
Edit: UJ breaking mid, should wait min to m15 for confirm. Now testing yesterdays open. My be time for load on retrace down - have buy limit 117,14 - stops 116,83.
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  • #951,276
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:59am Jan 16, 2015 8:59am
UoM news postponed
  • #951,277
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:01am Jan 16, 2015 9:01am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Omg mate am spilling hate here for half an hour already. Facking Russians!
Man, sorry, I thought you only speak about Dukascopy. Well, now everything makes more sense.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #951,278
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:02am Jan 16, 2015 9:02am
Well, there is more good news for me. My 1MM demo account money is safe.
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  • #951,279
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:03am Jan 16, 2015 9:03am
CHF leading the way on XCHF pairs as expected, things are droping and will drop further deep.
  • #951,280
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:03am Jan 16, 2015 9:03am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} whats the calculation change of people having to convert euros to swiss. to now pay a mortgage? ec was above 1.2 and now 1 ish, and may drop even more. many in places with already bad ez economies like Greece will default. many defaults will be absorbed by the Swiss bank holding that mortgage. in turn those swiss banks will sell those bad debt properties at a discount. those discounts will weigh on all the nearby property values. and those will affect the mortgage value of those financed through a European bank. This can be systemic for...
More cracks in more banks...

none have opened their mouths about it yet...
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