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  • #78,361
  • Jan 9, 2015 7:23am Jan 9, 2015 7:23am
Quoting traderathome
GBPUSD Long Trade: M5 setup of bullish PA waves with Dragon beginning to angle up, following a dip below half number on notable volume (PVSRA = bulls). No SL at this time. {image}
GBPUSD Long Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 87.4 pips average, 1749 pips total gain.
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  • #78,362
  • Jan 9, 2015 7:58am Jan 9, 2015 7:58am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPUSD Long Trade Closed: Closed for gain of 87.4 pips average, 1749 pips total gain. {image}
Good timing to closed prof... I see that MM already prepared to whack it too bottom, the upper move so sudden, but no continuation on volume. The whack to the bottom must be wait for a volume continuation. Good job prof...
It's all started from page one
  • #78,363
  • Jan 9, 2015 10:27am Jan 9, 2015 10:27am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURCAD Long Trade Update: A real stop hunt is going on right now! I have added two scouts and might add another if the MMs drive the price sufficiently lower. I do not see this as a reversal but as another grab for longs below the half number (PVSRA = bulls). {image}
EURCAD Long Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 55.9 pips average, 1510.4 pips total.
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  • #78,364
  • Jan 9, 2015 10:29am Jan 9, 2015 10:29am
Quoting denmas
Usually BATMAN returns before NFP (stop hunt) {image}
BATMAN really comes .....
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  • #78,365
  • Jan 9, 2015 10:30am Jan 9, 2015 10:30am
Quoting traderathome
EURUSD Long Trade Open: Scout entries based on high volume into the lows yesterday (FOMC day) later followed by sudden spike back to lows (presumed liquidity creation for longs) and that the retrace of the move up from the lows has been a generous retrace (almost 79%) which attracted notable volume at the retrace lows. To me, this is indicating bullishness, accumulation of long orders by the MMs. There is no telling how price will move today, as always. So, at some point today, though this might be bullish, the price could be lower again. If it...
EURUSD Long Trade closed:

Closed for gain of 40.9 pips average, 6128 pips total.
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  • #78,366
  • Jan 9, 2015 10:32am Jan 9, 2015 10:32am
GBPUSA Long Trade Open/Closed:

Closed for gain of 35 pips average, 2804 pips total.
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  • #78,367
  • Jan 9, 2015 10:49am Jan 9, 2015 10:49am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} MetaQuotes MT4 is the only platform we support. You have several choices: 1. Use FXCM MT4 2. Use another broker offering MT4. (An aside: more offshore brokers with better trading privileges are now allowing USA clients.) 3. Find someone to recode our open coded indicators for you, for whatever other platform you might use. 4. Use a simple chart with our MA lines and normal volume - just like this all started - and which any respectable platform will accommodate, as shown attached. {image}
Thank you for answering me! Whyt do you mean by your MA lines?
  • #78,368
  • Edited 11:28am Jan 9, 2015 10:53am | Edited 11:28am
USDCAD Comment: Be Sure to Wear Black to the MMs' Funeral

And still the Robber Bank MMs support this. well, a 1250+ pips bull swing is not chicken feed. Maybe the most recent attempts by these Robber Bank MMs to head fake it up ended up backfiring on them. Instead of sucking in longs so the Robber Bank MMs could escape, all brought in were more sellers which the Robber Bank MMs had to be counter-parties to! Maybe they are stuck up here with their longs. Well, every now and then these thieves deserve to become the victims of their own actions!

Since it is their business, they can support the price until doomsday, waiting for more longs to come to this funeral,......just so long as they have the money to continue to provide liquidity for shorters. I guess when and if they run out of such liquidity, the price will have to start dropping in order to find longs - other than the Robber Bank MMs - at lower prices willing to take the opposite sides of shorts. Of course, that means it could suddenly fall 500 or more pips,....leaving a big mark on your chart and leaving the Robber Bank MMs in a world of hurt!

This could be a most interesting pair to keep on the watch list, to see what kind of an exit plan these thieves can execute for themselves before they let it get that bad,.....if it already has not gotten to that point! Any day these Robber Bank MMs might receive a letter from their bank, "Your Margin has been cut off! Your credit is not longer good with us. Even without the no hedging and the FIFO regulations you have forced onto retail traders, your account here is in shambles, and in danger of becoming liquidated at whatever prices we can get!"
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  • #78,369
  • Jan 9, 2015 11:05am Jan 9, 2015 11:05am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} MetaQuotes MT4 is the only platform we support. You have several choices: 1. Use FXCM MT4 2. Use another broker offering MT4. (An aside: more offshore brokers with better trading privileges are now allowing USA clients.) 3. Find someone to recode our open coded indicators for you, for whatever other platform you might use. 4. Use a simple chart with our MA lines and normal volume - just like this all started - and which any respectable platform will accommodate, as shown attached. {image}
By MA do you mean Exponential moving average?
  • #78,370
  • Edited 11:32am Jan 9, 2015 11:19am | Edited 11:32am
Quoting Ivanqus
{quote} By MA do you mean Exponential moving average?
I said and I meant "moving average". Do our indicators use SMA, EMA? Go to Post #1, sentence #1 for the answers to all your questions about the Sonic R. System.
  • #78,371
  • Jan 9, 2015 12:23pm Jan 9, 2015 12:23pm
How deap is deap?


Well, we just don't know. MM can take the price to where ever they want! As our good teacher TAH allways warn us.
right now EU has made a nine years low... many of us have already spoted that MM are bulls or are for a long time building their longs. The one million question is, when will happen the reverse? But i know the answer!
The answer is: Who cares? I think that a real sonicer is not the one that look for bottom or tops picking. That is not trading as a sonicer. That's pure gamble.
The real sonicer reads his chart, takes his notes of PVSRA and act. Some are scout lovers, other are classic setups snipers. Both, have proven that Sonic R System works. A big thank to master Sonic, Tah, and all of great sonicers traders that provide us their knowledge. (and they are so many that can't name just a few, but you all know).
I'm not a regular poster, but i'm a regular follower of all posts.
Usually a say a lot of S**t, so any comment to my notes (and i do take a lot of notes ) are really welcome.

Monthly Analysis:
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Weekly:
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  • #78,372
  • Jan 9, 2015 12:56pm Jan 9, 2015 12:56pm
USDCHF - Bearish on Background...
The price is very high now. This Area is a very important level for USDCHF. We can see on Monthly chart, (2008, 2009, 2010, 2012) the price determined by this zone.
Now lets see the H4 chart, we can find Bearish Engulfing there, on very high price. The MMs sell from high, this level is a whole number, isnt it?
Now become clear here, on M15 TF there are some bearish sign since 7th January till this friday. MMs activity always try to sell from higher high above big round number. The last high impact news (NFP), MMs push the price UP to get the higher high and stop haunt, then sell from there. They got a good price for selling.
Bearish..... isnt it?
See you on monday -MJ-
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"Bulls make money, Bears make money, but hogs get slaughtered"
  • #78,373
  • Jan 9, 2015 11:47pm Jan 9, 2015 11:47pm
Quoting coolmakina
How deap is deap? Well, we just don't know. MM can take the price to where ever they want! As our good teacher TAH allways warn us. right now EU has made a nine years low... many of us have already spoted that MM are bulls or are for a long time building their longs. The one million question is, when will happen the reverse? But i know the answer! The answer is: Who cares? I think that a real sonicer is not the one that look for bottom or tops picking. That is not trading as a sonicer. That's pure gamble. The real sonicer reads his chart, takes...
Gap, that's no gap at all
Coolmakina, I compared on the broker and live quote from Thomson Reuters on my office. The Gap occur because your server broker open after the price driven low at those day. There are no gap. Second, I will take a very carefull about volume reading at the end of year. The tick size is down significantly, yes it is, but, it's not because the MM got exhausted. So many trader got holiday, many bank quote are off, no wonder, the tick size drop significantly. Fresh new year is fresh new year. Read it differently, and follow the price with volume as an enthusiasm level. I just can recommend to dance with the price swing, take extra cautious when your setup is going rubbish. Fold the red as soon as possible, but ride with the green.

One thing for sure, when I start with this kind of PVSRA, I tend to made a lot of drawing, fibo, and etc. The result that I book on my trade is still big red. I made some big green, but then the big red caught me, eaten my green and made my account suffer. The eureka moment came to me, when my mentor said : simplyfy your chart. Then, I throw all of messy chart. I look at the prescribe template by TAH. Few days later, by doing the simplified thing, I trade and book pips better. Well, simplyfy your chart too... Because the key of good trade is on "how to book the best Loss?"
Regards,
-GP-
It's all started from page one
  • #78,374
  • Jan 9, 2015 11:55pm Jan 9, 2015 11:55pm
Opened Long positions /Scout I'm ready to close them because Price above whole numbers , Green Climax bar ....
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  • #78,375
  • Jan 9, 2015 11:59pm Jan 9, 2015 11:59pm
Quoting Gupito1508
{quote} Gap, that's no gap at all Coolmakina, I compared on the broker and live quote from Thomson Reuters on my office. The Gap occur because your server broker open after the price driven low at those day. There are no gap. Second, I will take a very carefull about volume reading at the end of year. The tick size is down significantly, yes it is, but, it's not because the MM got exhausted. So many trader got holiday, many bank quote are off, no wonder, the tick size drop significantly. Fresh new year is fresh new year. Read it differently, and...
NICE...!!!!
  • #78,376
  • Edited 2:49am Jan 10, 2015 2:31am | Edited 2:49am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURUSD Long Trade closed: Closed for gain of 40.9 pips average, 6128 pips total. {image}
Dear traderathome
may lead me on which post i could find the last rules of SonicR ?
and may possible to give a clue how you took these positions in opposite of the trend?
thanks a lot

"The Scout in this situation has nothing to do with using the Dragon to locate an EP area because PA can be far removed from the Dragon. The anticipation is the next move will be back towards, and maybe thru, the Dragon. So, you see that the idea behind this Scout is in the anticipation that PA has "run it's course" in the current direction, anticipation based on a number of factors which can include PVSRA."
  • #78,377
  • Jan 10, 2015 5:05am Jan 10, 2015 5:05am
Quoting Gupito1508
{quote} Gap, that's no gap at all Coolmakina, I compared on the broker and live quote from Thomson Reuters on my office. The Gap occur because your server broker open after the price driven low at those day. There are no gap. Second, I will take a very carefull about volume reading at the end of year. The tick size is down significantly, yes it is, but, it's not because the MM got exhausted. So many trader got holiday, many bank quote are off, no wonder, the tick size drop significantly. Fresh new year is fresh new year. Read it differently, and...
Thanks for your comments Master Gupito. They are really good as usual. Thanks.
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  • #78,378
  • Jan 10, 2015 6:53am Jan 10, 2015 6:53am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURUSD Long Trade closed: Closed for gain of 40.9 pips average, 6128 pips total. {image}
Tah

Congratulations on this trade. I would like to know what was the logic of averaging almost 15 times when clearly this was a Short trade to start off with.

I would appreciate an insight into how you believed it was a long trade when you entered when I was seeing Short. I acknowledge that it eventually turnaround but it took a while.

It appears you have had a great week.

Thanks
  • #78,379
  • Jan 10, 2015 10:52pm Jan 10, 2015 10:52pm
Quoting arya.aryaee
{quote} Dear traderathome may lead me on which post i could find the last rules of SonicR ? and may possible to give a clue how you took these positions in opposite of the trend? thanks a lot "The Scout in this situation has nothing to do with using the Dragon to locate an EP area because PA can be far removed from the Dragon. The anticipation is the next move will be back towards, and maybe thru, the Dragon. So, you see that the idea behind this Scout is in the anticipation that PA has "run it's course" in the current direction, anticipation based...
Post1, sentence1.
  • #78,380
  • Edited 11:30pm Jan 10, 2015 11:09pm | Edited 11:30pm
Quoting Forex-Forex
{quote} Tah Congratulations on this trade. I would like to know what was the logic of averaging almost 15 times when clearly this was a Short trade to start off with. I would appreciate an insight into how you believed it was a long trade when you entered when I was seeing Short. I acknowledge that it eventually turnaround but it took a while. It appears you have had a great week. Thanks
Forex-Forex,

I know that questions like yours are going to always be coming to me. And when I search for an answer to reply with that will make sense out of what seems chaos, I always come back to this.....

The longer a person serves an apprenticeship with dedication the better they develop their skills. I have been at trading overall quite some time, and a couple of years now with focus on trying to master PVSRA. All I can tell you, and anyone else that asks, is that something sinks in.....something that you cannot quite put your finger on, cannot adequately defined in precise terms, but that tends to more correctly guide assessments than not.

I don't know how else to put it. We all want things precisely defined, cut and dried, black and white. This might be more a "sense" that develops, and it might never be more than that. I just do not know how else to put it. Not right now, anyway.

I purposely do not update these trade situations anymore because I do not want to encourage others in this. If I ever get "hard parameters" that are more than what has already been published, I will of course renew the discussion of PVSRA to include them. I remember when this first got started. I said there was no telling what this might all lead to, that this was maybe like a diamond with many facets to be discovered and explored. I do not want to make more of it than it is, which is not much for some and which is a lot more for some others. This is more like an art form than a mathematical calculation. Whatever it truly is, at this point I subscribe to the belief that the more one delves into it, the more one gets out of it. Just remember this, I take some hefty hits every once in a while, too. Price action is unpredictable, and nothing is perfect against it.

As for this trade in particular, don't forget the Month chart I posted, don't forget that nothing goes down forever, don't forget that even if something is to go down more, the MMs prefer - ALWAYS PREFER - to make the most out of every level of decline, which is why they will never let something drop without retraces involved. "Time is money." is an expression. Well, to the MMs it is "Levels are profits.", meaning the more times they can cycle price thru a level during an overall move up or down, the more profits they can steal out of the market.

Some folks will just call this luck. That's okay by me. Maybe I am just getting luckier. Still, it is not a recommended way to trade and I don't entice others to it, and never have. Loeil tried it, vouched for it, and got stung by it! Sometimes, though, the odds are for it, especially with a significant price area looming not far off, which was the case here.

So, you can see from all I have said now, that I have no definitive answer for you. The best answer I can provide is that I believe the trader develops a "sense" over time. It is not unerring, but it does factor into analysis.....how you see things that can be seen either way.

-tah
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