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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Oct 3, 2016 8:34am Dec 26, 2014 12:19am | Edited Oct 3, 2016 8:34am
Disclaimer: please, as usual, take care to test it on demo first - i am not a professional programmer - so use at your own risk. Use entirely at your own risk. I accept no liability for any financial losses or computer related damage, caused by any version of the indicator or any other indicator on this development thread. As with all my indicators its open to anyone to make any alterations and improvements but it must remain free and available to all. This includes any altered version or additional indicators.

Warning: plz do not upload any scripts or EA's - indicators only

UPDATE: TMS Angleator v3 [original update - attached below]

[mraye] The latest version is here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=8400624#post8400624

[v2vboni] The version with extended TFs - including the W1 and M1 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=8732496#post8732496

[lukeb] More efficient version + addons & MT5 version http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=8842000#post8842000
  • #2
  • Dec 27, 2014 8:22am Dec 27, 2014 8:22am
Hi griffinssoul,
I'm also from the TMS thread and I notice that you are wanting to make changes to the TDI indie..
Try the attached link, they code EA and Indies for free..

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7963171#post7963171

Take care mate and enjoy the holidays.
  • #3
  • Dec 27, 2014 7:09pm Dec 27, 2014 7:09pm
Quoting forexday
Hi griffinssoul, I'm also from the TMS thread and I notice that you are wanting to make changes to the TDI indie.. Try the attached link, they code EA and Indies for free.. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7963171#post7963171 Take care mate and enjoy the holidays.
Hi forexday, thanks so much - that sounds like a great idea to me ...i will post v2.00 then request someone (a real programmer, perhaps) to give the once over... There has been problems with certain versions of the TDI indi [http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=294327] as pointed out by Xaphod. The nature of the problem is weird and scary! I certainly want to avoid any of these/similar complications...
  • #4
  • Dec 28, 2014 4:47am Dec 28, 2014 4:47am
Quoting griffinssoul
{quote} Hi forexday, thanks so much - that sounds like a great idea to me ...i will post v2.00 then request someone (a real programmer, perhaps) to give the once over... There has been problems with certain versions of the TDI indi [http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=294327] as pointed out by Xaphod. The nature of the problem is weird and scary! I certainly want to avoid any of these/similar complications...
Wow, i wasn't aware of any problems with the TDI.
Also reading the attached link to Xaphod going back to 2011, I'm sure most of the problems should be sorted out by now. Well I certainly hope so. Do you know if the TDI from compassfx is ok for our use as this is the one I'm using.

I hope you find a good programmer to help you out.
GL mate and all the best for 2015.
  • #5
  • Edited 5:40am Dec 28, 2014 5:26am | Edited 5:40am
Quoting forexday
{quote} Wow, i wasn't aware of any problems with the TDI. Also reading the attached link to Xaphod going back to 2011, I'm sure most of the problems should be sorted out by now. Well I certainly hope so. Do you know if the TDI from compassfx is ok for our use as this is the one I'm using. I hope you find a good programmer to help you out. GL mate and all the best for 2015.
LOL! I got a heart-attack when i first saw this but then it was ok cause i saw the date - no way senior traders would have ignored this especially SJ, LW, Big E & Emmanuel...

Also, you will notice that Xaphod has maintained the thread with very recent updates - so this is excellent!

The problem is easy to detect... "Yes, that is the problem. The TDI is incorrect. The chart it has drawn for the couple of hours is not accurate. It should look like the freshly drawn TMS-Osc Chart."... as Xaphod explains. So, just to be sure just load a fresh TDI and compare it to the one you are running, they should be identical. How they could be different - i have no idea?

Since the TMS Angleator embeds itself within the TDI this type of information is important to know The very best of trading for you in the New Year mate!!!
  • #6
  • Edited 1:13am Dec 29, 2014 12:37am | Edited 1:13am
Hi TMS Traders, please find attached the indi I have developed and am using for this strategy. Please feel free to modify it as required, in anyway - help everyone by further development if you can, thank you. This is my second MT4 indi. the first being for the Open Scalping Strategy. Common sense then implies that everyone using this indi should excersize cation and I recommend that you only conduct [demo] account testing first to make sure it is working properly for your system.

Description of functions inside the .mq4 file

IMPORTANT : i am using the TDI found on page 1 of the TMS thread - i have not tried any other version of the TDI - there are many!!!

EDT: all done!
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  • #7
  • Dec 29, 2014 11:07am Dec 29, 2014 11:07am
Can you please provide definitions for each of the indicator outputs?
  • #8
  • Edited 6:06pm Dec 29, 2014 5:07pm | Edited 6:06pm
Quoting steadyrandy
Can you please provide definitions for each of the indicator outputs?
Hi steadyrandy, thanks for asking: the panel ratio is just the length divided by the width of the indi (TDI) window [pixels]. Green/Red is just the instantaneous angles of the the TDI Green and Red lines for the TF you are on. These are found from the formula MathArctan(TDI Green [Current]- TDI Green [Previous])*180)/3.1415 i have no idea mate - this is what i found on the other FF threads - try it on your calculator - it works... TDI rel angle - is just the ratio of these angles. TDI Separation is just the difference b/w the value of the [current] Green like with the Red line. H1 [Arrow] is the angle of the Green line for H1, H4 [arrow] is the angle of the Green line for H4 and D1 [arrow] is the angle for Green line for D1.

Hope this is ok? Get back to me with any problems or questions...
  • #9
  • Edited 11:47pm Dec 29, 2014 11:34pm | Edited 11:47pm
IMPORTANT NOTE: ...make sure the TDI you are using is renamed as "TDI Red Green". So, if you use 'Traders Dynamic Index.mq4' then rename this to 'TDI Red Green.mq4'.

A simple way to fix the problem with this indi [as reported by Xaphod] is to follow the instructions by zznbrm http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=4621048#post4621048

An alternative of course is to use one of the fixes supplied by Xaphod. I have not tried the Angleator with any of these yet - let me know if you do...
  • #10
  • Dec 30, 2014 1:12am Dec 30, 2014 1:12am
Quoting griffinssoul
{quote} Hi steadyrandy, thanks for asking: the panel ratio is just the length divided by the width of the indi (TDI) window [pixels]. Green/Red is just the instantaneous angles of the the TDI Green and Red lines for the TF you are on. These are found from the formula MathArctan(TDI Green [Current]- TDI Green [Previous])*180)/3.1415 i have no idea mate - this is what i found on the other FF threads - try it on your calculator - it works... TDI rel angle - is just the ratio of these angles. TDI Separation is just the difference b/w the value of the...
Hi,
just got some free time before dinner, so I pop in here to have a look see.
Hmmmm... not really sure about all these mathematical work you do with the TDI angle?

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  • #11
  • Dec 30, 2014 1:33am Dec 30, 2014 1:33am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi, just got some free time before dinner, so I pop in here to have a look see. Hmmmm... not really sure about all these mathematical work you do with the TDI angle? ....
Hi emmanuel7788, there is a dedicated FF thread about this and discussions elsewhere. Interesting stuff, cant say i would have ever come up with it myself but if you put a few numbers in a calculator it seems to check-out ok.
  • #12
  • Dec 30, 2014 12:04pm Dec 30, 2014 12:04pm
Quoting griffinssoul
...the panel ratio is just the length divided by the width of the indi (TDI) window [pixels]...Get back to me with any problems or questions...
Thank you for your full response!
The panel ratio is the length of _____ divided by the TDI panel width in pixels?
How is this used?
  • #13
  • Dec 30, 2014 4:01pm Dec 30, 2014 4:01pm
Quoting steadyrandy
{quote} Thank you for your full response! The panel ratio is the length of _____ divided by the TDI panel width in pixels? How is this used?
Hi steadyrandy, good question; this was my original answer to the problem of standardizing the TDI sub-window to get a consistent view of the TDI cross - the angle of a crossing can look different depending on the size of the TDI sub-window. So, all the indi does is show you what the ratio of length to height is and this lets you keep it to a suitable ratio - for example on my system making it as close to 7.00 looks spot-on... so when ever i have to adjust things around (always happens) i just re-scale the TDI sub-window to be close as possible to 7.00 that way it always will look (near) the same every trade (have a look inside indi for more details...)

Hope this helps buddy keep me posted on your progress, thanks!
  • #14
  • Edited 6:51pm Jan 1, 2015 6:31pm | Edited 6:51pm
Extra Note: I have noticed something that may be worth noting. The following TDI indi versions are related as follows;

Traders Dynamic Indicator.mq4 : original indi by Dean Malone (DM)

TDI Red Green.mq4 : Big E's (simple) modification of DM's version with only the Red and Green lines

TDI RT.mq4 : the 'real time' version of Big E's TDI Red Green.mq4

The difference b/w TDI Red Green.mq4 & TDI RT.mq4 is precisely the change outlined by zznbrm in order to correct the problem that Xaphod found. This suggests that the original motivation for the way the indi was written was to avoid the 'repaint' (or update) issue and was fully intentional.
  • #15
  • Jan 1, 2015 8:21pm Jan 1, 2015 8:21pm
Quoting griffinssoul
...Hope this helps buddy...
Yes, perfect! Thanks for the support!
  • #16
  • Edited 2:21pm Jan 2, 2015 2:09pm | Edited 2:21pm
Development: one thing that i have left to last concerns the TDI signal... i am hoping to further develop this. Currently there are 4 inputs you can play around with for the pair you are trading. This will effect the signal - the first input (1 by default) measures the TDI_distance and compares it to 1.00 to find if the Green/Red lines are 'crossing' - if this value is made larger then the crossing area will be larger - meaning you will be more likely to get a 'crossing' status... the second input is not as important and just gives you a measure of how strong the move is... the last two can be adjusted for the minimum candle size for 1H and 4H candles... Some experimentation and trial-error is needed...

Note (Pending...): minor adjustment - for traders with black backgrounds make colors of indi arrows as input options cause the neutral arrow is black
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  • #17
  • Edited 2:51pm Jan 4, 2015 2:10pm | Edited 2:51pm
Example: here is an example for EJ - a SELL signal on the 4H/D1 - the trade is a standard TMS cross signal with HTF support. The input values for this pair were adjusted as shown on the indi inputs (the default values of 1.0 and 5.0 were changed to 4.0 and 8.0 to accommodate the signal - a fine tuning if you like ). Notice that the signal does not come up on the D1 chart as the input values filter this out...
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  • #18
  • Jan 5, 2015 8:03pm Jan 5, 2015 8:03pm
Notes [development of TDI Signal] : seems to be a problem(?) with considering the candles range (H-L) on each TF - i think this process should be independent in the sense if you are trading the 1H/4H it should only depend on the 1H candle but currently it looks like it needs or considers both?

The setting above [previous post] for values 4.00 and 8.00 seem to work well on most pairs for my system - i think there perhaps should be a more better way to do this off the color of the HA's perhaps after a cross on the target TF... hmmm

Side note: one thing to explore; some traders may find it useful to dial down to lower TF such as the 15M - there could be an option for 15M/30M/1H or 1H/4H/D1? Cool...
  • #19
  • Jan 7, 2015 1:45pm Jan 7, 2015 1:45pm
Hi, very interesting. I try, but it does not show anything. I did everything the way you write.
What could be the problem?
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  • #20
  • Jan 7, 2015 2:04pm Jan 7, 2015 2:04pm
Quoting clubdio
Hi, very interesting. I try, but it does not show anything. I did everything the way you write. What could be the problem? {image}
Hi clubdio, i have seen this before - what version of the TDI are you using ? It is important to rename your TDI file to the file name "TDI Red Green" ... see this post above http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7966121#post7966121

Let me know how is goes...
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