Sonic R. System

UJ Classic Setup, Short Open:

Pre Classic Setup @ M5/M15

USDJPY Short Trade Open:

Re-entry to M15 classic setup. No TP/SL at this time. US MMs might put price higher, maybe back above the half number, in which case I will add if I am at the computer.

hmatar,

Post #1, sentence #1. Read the Manual. Several are linked in your homework.

The current bear swing is over 750 pips already. A retrace - or reversal - is not unthinkable at this point. And, the AS which was not a participant to the Friday lows seems to be making up for that by running the price down a bit further - below half number - and back up. The "and back up" part starting with notable volume below the half number could mean a base. Yes, the price might get whacked back down to RDL/DS1,.....possibly a good place to add if there is good volume down their then also.

Hi TAH,
This morning while analysing the EURUSD on FXCM MT4,I observed that the RDH,and RDL values on the H1 were different from the H4, and M15 as follows;

H4, M15 : RDH 1.1950 and RDL 1.1861
H1 : RDL 1.2000 and RDL 1.1913.
Difference in value are RDH 50 pips,and RDL 52 pips
Would you please explain to me which of them is correct for target projection,and why there is a difference in the value?Attached are the screenshots of the EURUSD H4.H1,and M15.
Regards.
Bo

Close short for total + 696 pips, clean classic setup

tentively reentry at whole number 120 ?!

out of compliance lol.. i'm using the same template as everyone else.. what is your problem lately ? you blow some accounts ? forget how to trade properly ? you've been pissy with everyone.


soon as someone says anything you ban them.. dude you need a vacation.. seriously

today this long trade failed,would someone giveme any comments?

Long at support+20pips, chasing price, and unwilling to set a decent SL. Wider stops will allow trades to reach their full potential

were you short ? if not, there's your first problem.. obviously no one has taught you properly which is to be expected here.. since everyone gives up and throws all the newbs to the first page which is completely useless..


if you need any serious help let me know, trying to get help from these people is hopeless

Bang.

..I see a reversal in EUR/USD and USD/CHF from this point onwards. Happy new year folks.

AUDUSD Long Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 24.4 pips average, 732 pips total.

USDJPY Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 80.9 pips average, 809 pips total.

according to sonic's teachings:
1) You entered at a higher high after a higher low
2) This is a scout entry. a scout entry is risky in the fact that the dragon has not cleared the trend line.
3) The SL needs to be further off.. it should be at least some pips away from the recent low.
4) in the chart you post, you will notice that around the 92 whole no. a base is forming.. could signify a higher low. if the SL was set at the recent low, it might just turn into a good trade

lastly, there's no 100% win rate even if u follow the doctrine by the books.

just my 2 cents.. i could be wrong anyways.

NZDJPY:

lzhcz,

When price has been trending down and puts in a bottom with some volume that looks like a possible base from which to start a classic setup, it might not be a setup. It might be a retrace followed by price continuing down. This is what happened here.

It is stated in the manual that it is best if the first leg of the PA wave passes thru the Dragon. Obviously, this was not the case. Also, following a strong trend down, maybe wait for the Dragon itself to form a sort of double bottom and a classic setup with a better PA wave. Following a trend move down, it never hurts to give time for some ranging. The MMs might have closed shorts, but not yet opened longs. They will usually range the price awhile to do this - maybe a couple of days - and you will see the Dragon move up and down to form a sort of double bottom. Patience.

You will see from the chart I post here that the Dragon has now formed a double bottom. However, you can also see: (1) the LS is closing, and (2) there is a NZD high impact release coming. My guess is the MMs will hold the price down now to build long ahead of that release. Of course, we cannot know how the MMs will move the price, but in this case especially patience to await a better setup is required.

-tah

Open Letter to Sonikers

Dear Sonikers,

It pains me to see traders struggle, as it pains me to struggle. And it hurts more that some come here and accuse "us" as providing no help! Can you imagine it? After so many years that this thread has continued to freely present the Sonic R. System, to freely provide indicators and templates, to freely demonstrate the application of the Sonic R. System - yes, after so many years of doing all this, and freely so - can you imagine that any honest person would make such an accusation?

Honest people do not make such accusations. They are dishonest in the way they take up the study of this system. They are dishonest in the way that they go about applying this system, not being diligent nor disciplined! And they are dishonest even with themselves, telling themselves their failures are "our" fault!

From time to time is is necessary for the good of this thread that some folks be banned from further posting. When you see that has happened, you can be sure that the actions of, and the statements by such people have been duly appraised for redeeming value before the decision to ban them is made.

Over the years many folks have contributed to this thread. Contributions have been in the form of posts demonstrating the application of the system, sometimes well and sometimes not well, but each is an opportunity to review and learn what was done right and what was done wrong. Contributions have been in the form of improving our indicators and templates, not only for every trader, but so every post using them is a better aid for learning this system, which some folks seem not to be able to understand, or they don't care. And contributions have been in the form of a body of statements about how the market works, how the Robber Bank MMs have it setup so they can easily, frequently and legally steal money from others, which is knowledge just as important as the rest!

Post #1 has all the foundation for a new person. A lot of work went into this foundation. And it is infuriating that some come here and skip it all, think they know when they don't, and then bitch when things go wrong for them, or they are told they are out of compliance and to do their homework. I run out of patience with some of these people, because I know the work that went into providing what they need. I know they are skipping corners, which means they are not diligent, not responsible, not even honest with themselves, and will fail. Personally, I think it is better that they go elsewhere to fail. Nevertheless, the "PM' feature on Forex Factory allows a method of communication, just in case a ban was done in haste. But, in every case where a ban was rescinded the person ended up being banned again, so to my way of thinking we are being correct to protect this thread, and more than fair in how this is done.

Ideally, when a person comes to this thread they should put their ego and baggage of indicators on the shelf, humble themselves to become a willing, prudent student, do the best they can to learn and apply correctly, and ultimately to be a contributing team player by abiding in how things are done here for benefit of all.

Sincerely,
-tah

NOBODY CAN HELP YOU except YOURSELF

As we face everyday in market, the more uncertain situation is occur. Yes, from the very beginning this market created, nothing certain. The only one that certain is the uncertainty itself. Some people said that it's hopeless to throw the newbie into the page one. No it is not. I learn from the page to page, and started from page one. This is the living book of SONICER. We are being blessed by prof TAH that allowed himself into subject of condemn by strictly forcing the rule into this forum. I tried to always comply this forum rule, just because I realized, why I wasting time writing something that any other people can not get the benefit by the mixture and messy chart, full with line and indicator. Nobody will catch the essence.

Today, I'll give some example, that any loss is normal. But how we as a trader approach and face the loss, is the problem. Yes TAH often mentioned that trade lightly compared into your account equity. But the light size of risk can be devastated if you kept it go. I often said to my friends that it is their job to minimize their exposure into risk by not allowing big drawdown happened into their account. No matter how light you trade compared into your account size, Loss is Loss. A cancer started from small, then spread wider, so that the whole body is damage then dead, buried and forgotten. Why kept the loss? Why not throw the losser position then switched into the right direction? What problem that made each trader so hard to dumping the loss? Why not cut the losser position before it reach your SL? Why kept the position that open floating for minus 80 pips instead of cut it at 10pips, then switched for gain 67pips (spread is count)? Surely I said, if you can not did that, it’s the time for you not wasting your time and money into trade. Find another way to make money. Only people that brave enough to accept loss as soon as possible will survive here.

Ok, then how? Train yourself, not with demo, but real money, until you feel nothing to cut loss. Until you get habitual with loss. Make friend with it, and you will survive in this dog eat dog market. That’s the purpose of trade lightly. Spend your money small, learn and feel each loss, until you bored with it. Then, at that phase, you will learn how to throw as small as possible amount of money. That’s the first rule about how to master the market.

Then come into the next step, after you are not afraid with loss anymore, it’s time to make serious money. The time and phase for play, and being nice with MM is over. You know your objective now, you are not afraid about loss, you can protect your account by spending small pip, and fight longer with the MM. You, at this phase, dare to switch anytime when your position is losser. No hedging, no procrastinate, without delay, and almost reflect, push the button close then open into another direction. You follow the price, and roll with it. If it goes green, you hold longer, if it goes red, you fold fast. You’re not trade lightly again now. You often enter into the market with big lotsize. You dare to do it because you know, you always cut the red faster, but fold the green longer. Your account can now multiplied. That’s the rule of trading, by accepting your loss and get used to it.

The most essence in trading is not about how you analyze, put line into the chart, get messed up with your chart like a trashcan,but HOW TO TRAIN YOURSELF TO ACCEPT LOSS? Below, I put an example from today’s market realtime transaction I did.

Good luck
-GP-

PS: I experience trouble while trying to upload the chart picture into FF, so here is the link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/579ettt4ib...ion_5.jpg?dl=0

Dear TAH!

With great respect to you and express my gratitude for your work and help! Do not take to heart and do not worry because not flattery reviews. You - a professional and everyone knows it.

I will not write a lot of words. So everyone knows who you are and what you are doing valuable contribution to the development of Sonic.

AUDUSD Comment

Sonikers,

The current bear swing of this pair is already 750+ pips, and now the MMs are ranging it - moving price up and down - which is what they do to finish closing shorts and build long. The chart attached shows heavy LS activity today. The PA waves are bullish. And the bullishness started with a trip below the half number on notable volume. Early in the coming AS there is a high impact release. Right now, the MMs are retracing the price, but that might be only part of their strategy to build long, if that is what they are doing. They might also execute a stop hunt of longs, maybe in conjunction with the coming AS release.

We cannot ever know how price will move next, and so we need to stick to assessing setups. I feel this is one to watch and assess in the coming AS.

-tah

That is a "bug" which I believe has been eliminated in the coming upgrade release. RDL at the bottom of price action and RDH near the half number are the correct locations.

-tah

Hi Tah,
Thanks for your kind response.
Regards.
Bo