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  • #943,821
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:16am Dec 15, 2014 9:16am
Quoting forexings
{quote} Putin destroying Russian economy. Poor Russians kept their all hope in energy sector. They must had to reduce their dependency on that sector earlier.
if the peasants clean up the corruption, ford and others would love to build with cheap energy. that means
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and 50 years
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  • #943,822
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:16am Dec 15, 2014 9:16am
Quoting gatorinla
glad i closed some before spike.
me too it was very high leverage trade (1:800) https://charts.mql5.com/6/496/eurusd...g-point-of.png
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #943,823
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:25am Dec 15, 2014 9:25am
Quoting gatorinla
another bad day for putin.. {image}
and its getting no better
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  • #943,824
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:27am Dec 15, 2014 9:27am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} and its getting no better {image}
It'll get much worse before he

1. Gives in
2. Wars
3. Is userped

Former KGB, and his general policy thus far gives a head-nod to option #2
  • #943,825
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:29am Dec 15, 2014 9:29am
Stolen from a news article-

What do Vladimir Putin, the oil price, and the ruble’s value against the dollar have in common? They are all 62.

  • #943,826
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:30am Dec 15, 2014 9:30am
Quoting forexings
{quote} Putin destroying Russian economy. Poor Russians kept their all hope in energy sector. They must had to reduce their dependency on that sector earlier.
Reaction on reaction. Would you blame second guy? I wouldnt i would blame first one.
Its like Mafia coming to you shoot you 3 times, you go to doctor, you die from mortal wounds and community says, doctor killed his patient.
  • #943,827
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:30am Dec 15, 2014 9:30am
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} It'll get much worse before he 1. Gives in 2. Wars 3. Is userped Former KGB, and his general policy thus far gives a head-nod to option #2
i figured this much..after all he did take a shipping port with eyes in iron reserves in Ukraine
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #943,828
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:34am Dec 15, 2014 9:34am
Quoting Pharm0r
Stolen from a news article- What do Vladimir Putin, the oil price, and the ruble’s value against the dollar have in common? They are all 62.
that joke is only a day old and now worthless.. 65.xxxx printed
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  • #943,829
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:36am Dec 15, 2014 9:36am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that joke is only a day old and now worthless.. 65.xxxx printed {image}
Haha.

Look m1. Price no longer travels in flow. It just opens and closes, 100s pips up from previous.
  • #943,830
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:36am Dec 15, 2014 9:36am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} Reaction on reaction. Would you blame second guy? I wouldnt i would blame first one. Its like Mafia coming to you shoot you 3 times, you go to doctor, you die from mortal wounds and community says, doctor killed his patient.
If they had long term food security plan US wouldn't dare to dump oil price.
You cannot learn better without losing
  • #943,831
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:39am Dec 15, 2014 9:39am
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} It'll get much worse before he 1. Gives in 2. Wars 3. Is userped Former KGB, and his general policy thus far gives a head-nod to option #2
in war, its illegal to trade with the enemy. so nothing could be bought are sold from Russia to nato members (oil and ng). china products will have the same standards for the u.s. to buy its exports (even with cheating, china will sell less product made with Russian oil.)
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #943,832
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:45am Dec 15, 2014 9:45am
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those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #943,833
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:46am Dec 15, 2014 9:46am
Quoting forexings
{quote} If they had long term food security plan US wouldn't dare to dump oil price.
Yeh but still...Putin is not dictator, ministries are guided by those in power and dont think that all Russian goverment officals are "Rus". Not at all. And besides that economic plans would had to be shaped from 90s up before his contribution to power started.
  • #943,834
  • Edited 11:47am Dec 15, 2014 9:48am | Edited 11:47am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that joke is only a day old and now worthless.. 65.xxxx printed {image}
Earlier this month Russia called for .8 percent decline in economy for 2015....wonder what that figure is now....especially considering the .8 percent was probably a lie

"Bank of Russia said it canceled the auction of 700 billion rubles ($11 billion) of three-year funding after receiving no bids." <----friday's movement.

Bank has spent 80 billion keeping the currency afloat...

~450 billion in reserves (half of which may be gold)....means these guys have less than 5 years to figure it out...

World could beheading for a very dark decade.
  • #943,835
  • Dec 15, 2014 9:56am Dec 15, 2014 9:56am
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} on a scale of 61 to 1,000 your humor is 62. Earlier this month Russia called for .8 percent decline in economy for 2015....wonder what that figure is now....especially considering the .8 percent was probably a lie "Bank of Russia said it canceled the auction of 700 billion rubles ($11 billion) of three-year funding after receiving no bids." <----friday's movement. Bank has spent 80 billion keeping the currency afloat... ~450 billion in reserves (half of which may be gold)....means these guys have less than 5 years to figure it out......
From what i heard its much less than half. 20%. However comparing to rubble circulation vs dollar fx reserves its enough for any "radical" monetary shift.
And no they dont have 5 years to figure it out, not nearly as much as that. They will need 300 bil by end of 2015 to prevent default for start, in 2016 that number will go up more significantly. I think max 2 years.
  • #943,836
  • Dec 15, 2014 10:03am Dec 15, 2014 10:03am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} in war, its illegal to trade with the enemy. so nothing could be bought are sold from Russia to nato members (oil and ng). china products will have the same standards for the u.s. to buy its exports (even with cheating, china will sell less product made with Russian oil.)
Russia is moving away from NATO members anyway, hell NATO members are restricting trade with Russia themselves.

Collectively the world will be hurt by losing Russia's oil supply- but US, South America, and Middle East will be more than happy to replace them as far as oil is concerned. US is already highest ng producer, with Russia in close second and EU only 1/6 of the other two. *CHA CHING*

Russia will move their energy to China (as they already are), and China will cancel trade with US - Which will send US inflation through the roof as we look for other places to get....well everything from. The plus side to that- US wont have to pay China on that 7-8% foreign debt...or the 1.2% we owe Russia...

Oh yeah- war is sounding good. For US anyway. EU....not so much.
  • #943,837
  • Dec 15, 2014 10:09am Dec 15, 2014 10:09am
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Russia is moving away from NATO members anyway, hell NATO members are restricting trade with Russia themselves. Collectively the world will be hurt by losing Russia's oil supply- but US, South America, and Middle East will be more than happy to replace them as far as oil is concerned. US is already highest ng producer, with Russia in close second and EU only 1/6 of the other two. *CHA CHING* Russia will move their energy to China (as they already are), and China will cancel trade with US - Which will send US inflation through...
the new industrial revolution puts the hurt on cheap labor anyway.. Russia will not sell all that the bs implies.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #943,838
  • Dec 15, 2014 10:11am Dec 15, 2014 10:11am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} From what i heard its much less than half. 20%. However comparing to rubble circulation vs dollar fx reserves its enough for any "radical" monetary shift. And no they dont have 5 years to figure it out, not nearly as much as that. They will need 300 bil by end of 2015 to prevent default for start, in 2016 that number will go up more significantly. I think max 2 years.
If I'm Russia I'm buying the shit out of gold.
  • #943,839
  • Dec 15, 2014 10:13am Dec 15, 2014 10:13am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that joke is only a day old and now worthless.. 65.xxxx printed {image}
66.4
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #943,840
  • Dec 15, 2014 10:14am Dec 15, 2014 10:14am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the new industrial revolution puts the hurt on cheap labor anyway.. Russia will not sell all that the bs implies.
True- may be a good time to be an American Steel producer...

No so much to be Wal-Mart...
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