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  • #1,001
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:00pm Dec 6, 2014 7:00pm
Not so sure they were all linked to vigovski or eitan. Quite a few who were banned were linked with each other though. saver0, kiads, baillee, pratepip, and a few others all had links with each other. They also had links through a few various systems. One of them, saver0, had also set up a site outside of FF. They claim to have found the "Holy Grail". Reading their comments on this other site they seem to be under the impression that this is the reason they were all banned en mass.

I have to think that the admins saw something "fishy" going on and gave them all the boot at the same time.

This entire episode has been somewhat entertaining.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #1,002
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:03pm Dec 6, 2014 7:03pm
I keep reading about how commercial members should have a live trade explorer etc. I would like to share my own personal thoughts on this issue.

I would personally hate to be scammed / cheated of my hard earned money, and if I was, I would want that person to pay for taking my money dishonestly.

However.......

If I am dumb enough to buy a product without seeing it, and having enough hard evidence to make a decision, and then I get cheated of my money, then I think I need to look at my self in the mirror first and ask myself 'why the hell would I buy something from someone I never met, that I personally don't know if it really works'

Everyone should take responsibility for their own actions! There are going to be good people and bad people in this world, sometimes, it is not easy to decipher who is who. Make good decisions for yourself.....be smart with your money, anyone could be anyone over the internet.

Wish you good trading, smart decisions and patience in the field of forex.

Cheers
Ezzy
What you do is a reflection of you....what I do is a reflection of me.
  • #1,003
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:05pm Dec 6, 2014 7:05pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
Now the same time one of the emails was this one witch I will past and copy: Hi Pipaholic I received this personal message a while back from a current thread OP ' AM WELL INTERESTED IN TEACHING YOU WAY AND THANK YOU I AM USING THIS METHOD SINCE 7 YEARS BACK AND PLAYING WITH OTHER METHODS THE FIRST TRADE MUST BE FROM WEEKLY CHART, THAT IT IS GOING, ON TOP MAKE SELL AND IF ON BOTTOM MAKE BUY THEN SHIFT TO 1 MINUTE AND STAY THERE READ HE LAST 15 POSTS I WROTE IN THIS STRATEGY ANSWERING SOME PALS AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY YOU WILL SEE MANY NEW THINGS HOWEVER,...
That's a scam.
Send it to Twee.
Post who it was from. We've all been naming names.
  • #1,004
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:07pm Dec 6, 2014 7:07pm
Has anyone seen db lately or did the NFP finally kill him off
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,005
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:12pm Dec 6, 2014 7:12pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} That's a scam. Send it to Twee. Post who it was from. We've all been naming names.
The member that sent me the email has contacted Twee already. To disclose his information to you will not change anything especially since he trusted me
and asked not to be mentioned. If he was the scammer that is a different story but he is the victim and if he wants his name to be private
it is his right.
The only reason I am posting it is to see if anyone else has received an email like this?

4x
  • #1,006
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:24pm Dec 6, 2014 7:24pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} The member that sent me the email has contacted Twee already. To disclose his information to you will not change anything especially since he trusted me and asked not to be mentioned. If he was the scammer that is a different story but he is the victim and if he wants his name to be private it is his right. The only reason I am posting it is to see if anyone else has received an email like this? 4x
Then post the name of the scammer.
That's what this thread is for. You opened it.
  • #1,007
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:27pm Dec 6, 2014 7:27pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Then post the name of the scammer. That's what this thread is for. You opened it.
Did you see the name of the scammer anywhere? I copied and paste..... If I had it I would.....Twee is getting that.....

4x
  • #1,008
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:32pm Dec 6, 2014 7:32pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} Did you see the name of the scammer anywhere? I copied and paste..... If I had it I would.....Twee is getting that..... 4x
The broken English reminds me of the Eitan syndicate.
Eitan managed to amass a large file of email address of gullible suckers.
  • #1,009
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:34pm Dec 6, 2014 7:34pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} The broken English reminds me of the Eitan syndicate. Eitan managed to amass a large file of email address of gullible suckers.
I am going to contact him and try to get the senders info released

4x
  • #1,010
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:37pm Dec 6, 2014 7:37pm
Quoting Ezzy
I keep reading about how commercial members should have a live trade explorer etc. I would like to share my own personal thoughts on this issue. I would personally hate to be scammed / cheated of my hard earned money, and if I was, I would want that person to pay for taking my money dishonestly. However....... If I am dumb enough to buy a product without seeing it, and having enough hard evidence to make a decision, and then I get cheated of my money, then I think I need to look at my self in the mirror first and ask myself 'why the hell would I...
Rant....On!

This the best post of the thread. I live in the US where we have a bunch of babies crying for a nanny state. Be smart about what you do and do not do. Anyone who buys anything off the internet without proof of performance is just stupid. Let me say that again, if you bought a system from here at FF, you are stupid!!!!!!

Quit crying about scammers and stop being a sucker. Learn to trade on your own you lazy bum!

Okay, rant.....off.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,011
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:38pm Dec 6, 2014 7:38pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} I am going to contact him and try to get the senders info released 4x
Good. I think it will lead back to Eitan's organization. It might smoke out one of his remaining operatives. That email looked like it was drafted by Eitan.
  • #1,012
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:43pm Dec 6, 2014 7:43pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Rant....On! This the best post of the thread. I live in the US where we have a bunch of babies crying for a nanny state. Be smart about what you do and do not do. Anyone who buys anything off the internet without proof of performance is just stupid. Let me say that again, if you bought a system from here at FF, you are stupid!!!!!! Quit crying about scammers and stop being a sucker. Learn to trade on your own you lazy bum! Okay, rant.....off.
well said...



edit, omg look who appeared, i'll keep shorting because one day it will drop idiot db himself
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,013
  • Dec 6, 2014 8:10pm Dec 6, 2014 8:10pm
Quoting spzd
Not so sure they were all linked to vigovski or eitan. Quite a few who were banned were linked with each other though. saver0, kiads, baillee, pratepip, and a few others all had links with each other. They also had links through a few various systems. One of them, saver0, had also set up a site outside of FF. They claim to have found the "Holy Grail". Reading their comments on this other site they seem to be under the impression that this is the reason they were all banned en mass. I have to think that the admins saw something "fishy" going on and...
Hello@ you can register in saver0's forum and message him so that you can clear your doubts mate.

http://penguintraders.com/
  • #1,014
  • Dec 6, 2014 8:32pm Dec 6, 2014 8:32pm
Quoting tradeforlife
{quote} Hello@ you can register in saver0's forum and message him so that you can clear your doubts mate.
Now why would I want to do that? I have my own system. I do not need whatever they are "working" on. As far as doubts, I really have know idea what you are inferring. These bans were not a spur of the moment thing. I am sure the admin have their reasons. I come to FF for the entertainment value and have definitely gotten my monies worth recently. -)
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #1,015
  • Dec 7, 2014 12:50am Dec 7, 2014 12:50am
Quoting billbss
{quote} The broken English reminds me of the Eitan syndicate. Eitan managed to amass a large file of email address of gullible suckers.
Quoting billbss
{quote} Good. I think it will lead back to Eitan's organization. It might smoke out one of his remaining operatives. That email looked like it was drafted by Eitan.
There were two people from Dubai in Eitan's group protecting and praising the 'Professor'. One of them claimed to be working with world leaders to change the life of the whole planet.
  • #1,016
  • Dec 7, 2014 1:24am Dec 7, 2014 1:24am
Quoting billbss
Can a TE be faked?
YES!!

A TE, or Myfxbook history can be faked if you own a white label brokerage.

1:42 in to this video.
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Ok, $5k can be a large outlay for the white label privilege ...but, in the hypothetical case of Eitan, he earned nearly $20k from his subscribers.... If it were me, I would invest the $5k in order to make more from those willing enough to pay for my "system."

As for Him, I'm still not sure if he is scamming in the true sense. But at the very least he is dishonest. His commercial intentions were clear form the start, yet he used the blanket of "helping others" before he released his sold idea.
This video, clearly shows his intentions to be commercial. 8months old....to Cariddi who I'm sure is still reading this...yes, Eitan does claim to have the holy grail!
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Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #1,017
  • Dec 7, 2014 6:38am Dec 7, 2014 6:38am
Scammers are like cockroaches, one can expose and destroy some but they cannot be eradicated completely so long as there are greeds. The best defence is to be totally devoid of greed and avoid promises of easy money. Anything else is akin to the proverbial banging one's head against the wall. In fact this menace is so rampant now that there is a proliferation of special schools/academys being set up to teach and train those scammer wannabes the arts and skills of scamming and the waiting lists is just overwhelming. The most effective and damning counter-measure was carried out in Communist Red China in the early 60's in a most brutal method of extra judicial executions which almost eliminated those scourges until the late 70's where it makes a comeback with a vengeance. Its getting so serious that its not uncommon to see children are now scamming their own parents and other family members. This era is unfortunately morally and ethically corrupt to say the least.

So remember 'no greed no scam' Period.

Good luck.

GS
  • #1,018
  • Dec 7, 2014 7:12am Dec 7, 2014 7:12am
Quoting DaddyBear again "A hater, S65, made up baseless formulas to degrade DBX."

These formulas are accepted across the entire trading world and were developed by PhD's in Mathematics.
Obviously they were not as smart as DaddyBear because they dont proof(his word) anything...EXCEPT THAT HIS METHOD DOES NOT MAKE ANY MONEY!!!
Baseless in the mind of a deranged lunatic
Do you need me to quote references from different math departments at places like MIT and Stanford or Harvard that "Proof" (your word) you are a liar!

He still wants to talk about pips....what a nut bag

They are only baseless because they prove he is a fraud....his "system" does not make money...PERIOD...or otherwise he would proof (his word) it.

CALLING OUT DADDYBEAR.......IF YOU CAN MAKE MONEY...PROOF IT AS YOU WOULD SAY...open even a micro lot account with $100 and make some money....even $10.

PROOFS(your word) ARE WHAT YOU NEED HERE TO CONTINUE SELLING YOUR GARBAGE CLAIMS
Plan, Prepare, Execute, Repeat
  • #1,019
  • Dec 7, 2014 7:19am Dec 7, 2014 7:19am
Quoting trader34
{quote} YES!! A TE, or Myfxbook history can be faked if you own a white label brokerage. 1:42 in to this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTx1DYSy8Q Ok, $5k can be a large outlay for the white label privilege ...but, in the hypothetical case of Eitan, he earned nearly $20k from his subscribers.... If it were me, I would invest the $5k in order to make more from those willing enough to pay for my "system." As for Him, I'm still not sure if he is scamming in the true sense. But at the very least he is dishonest. His commercial intentions...
Thanks for your post. It is very informative.
Requiring a TE from Commercial members won't solve the problem.
Eitan's minions are still reading this thread. Eitan will probably reappear with a fake TE showing no losses.
  • #1,020
  • Dec 7, 2014 7:20am Dec 7, 2014 7:20am
Just report to site admins for violation of

Commercial Code of Conduct

I. Be transparent

Members who are associated with a product or service should make that fact obvious. There's zero tolerance for cloaking a company association with the intent of promoting a product or service (e.g., pretending to be a happy customer, etc.).

II. No Spam

Commercial members should not spam Forex Factory by posting duplicate content, bumping their threads, or flooding the website with worthless posts.

III. No Scams

Products and services that are built upon bad intent (i.e., the seller knows the service is not worth the price) are not allowed to be promoted on Forex Factory. This generally includes signal services, multi-level-marketing, and get-rich-quick schemes.

While Forex Factory does not evaluate every product or service promoted by Commercial Members, if one comes to the staff's attention, it may be disallowed if discretionarily deemed to be a scam.
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