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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 2:02pm Nov 29, 2014 10:46am | Edited 2:02pm
Dear commercial members:
Please support this thread to fight back those who accused our products or services of scamming without any proofs.
I have read so many nonsenses and been attacked by those Forex criminals frequently.
If you don't stand up for yourself, nobody will do this for you.
United we shall win and make our reputations intact.
While I respect everyone's freedom of speech, such crimes are not only childish but illegal!
Come to join me. It's been too long but it's never too late to protect our businesses.

Any posting of Forex Criminals must attach the proofs.
The posts are based on the incidents so one criminal may be listed many times.

DaddyBear
daddybearforex. com
  • #2
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:49am Nov 29, 2014 10:49am
First, I will post the criminals with their no proof attacking messages.

Indrek
Quoting Indrek
{quote}
Very inadequate comparison. But I will not continue this discussion any more. Good luck in scamming, I will stick to trading

swingtrade65
Quoting swingtrade65
{quote}
Do you actually believe this or do you just make this shit up as you go along ? Have you ever even heard of a correlation matrix..... Let alone looked at one .... Correlation between these pairs is 9% over the last 52 weeks.... Furthermore, they have been negatively correlated over the last 50 days at a rate of -70%...... Snake oil sales at its finest here folks
daddybearforex. com
  • #3
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:55am Nov 29, 2014 10:55am
Always the same question ... never a good answer..

If you can trade profitably and make a living from your trading; why would you want to sell anything ?
Can't you just make your millions and be happy with that ?
  • #4
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:13am Nov 29, 2014 11:13am
Quoting DaddyBear
Dear commercial members: Please support this thread to fight back those who accused our products or services of scamming without any proofs. I have read so many nonsenses and been attacked by those Forex criminals frequently. If you don't stand up for yourself, nobody will do this for you. United we shall win and make our reputations intact. While I respect everyone's freedom of speech, such crimes are not only childish but illegal! Come to join me. It's been too long but it's never too late to protect our business. Any posting of Forex Criminals...
Don't know or care if you are a scammer but as Shakespeare said - '' I think he doth protest too much''

Do have a couple of q's tho.

Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day?

It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight.

You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain.
Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?
  • #5
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:18am Nov 29, 2014 11:18am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Don't know or care if you are a scammer but as Shakespeare said - '' I think he doth protest too much'' Do have a couple of q's tho. Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day? It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight. You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?
I decide how I run the business. Whether using a live or a demo is based on my judgment.
My TE is for the purpose of demonstrating how to apply DBX Trading System to FX trading not to show how much I have made from a account.
Under such a concept, I post setups then trade accordingly. Upon exiting the trades, I post the results.

The concepts of making a lot of pips and how to use a system are different. A presentation of a system use does not have to use a live account.
A trading book may have a lot of cases but they were the trades in the history. Whether they were a live or demo account does not matter when traders read that book.
daddybearforex. com
  • #6
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:25am Nov 29, 2014 11:25am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Don't know or care if you are a scammer but as Shakespeare said - '' I think he doth protest too much'' Do have a couple of q's tho. Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day? It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight. You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?
"Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day?"
If you knew how to run a business, you wouldn't think so.
While sharing one's working system with fellow FX retail traders at a reasonable fee, the traders help others make pips and in turn they receive their fair shares of return from the FX community. This is a win-win scenario.
daddybearforex. com
  • #7
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:25am Nov 29, 2014 11:25am
Quoting Mingary
Always the same question ... never a good answer.. If you can trade profitably and make a living from your trading; why would you want to sell anything ? Can't you just make your millions and be happy with that ?
See my answer above.
daddybearforex. com
  • #8
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:27am Nov 29, 2014 11:27am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Don't know or care if you are a scammer but as Shakespeare said - '' I think he doth protest too much'' Do have a couple of q's tho. Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day? It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight. You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?
"It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight."
As posted above, this is a business decision not a trading decision.
daddybearforex. com
  • #9
  • Edited 11:42am Nov 29, 2014 11:29am | Edited 11:42am
The Forex Criminals -Shame on them!

I will post the criminals with their no proof attacking messages. This list will continue to extend.

Indrek
Quoting Indrek
{quote}
Very inadequate comparison. But I will not continue this discussion any more. Good luck in scamming, I will stick to trading

swingtrade65
Quoting swingtrade65
{quote}
Do you actually believe this or do you just make this shit up as you go along ? Have you ever even heard of a correlation matrix..... Let alone looked at one .... Correlation between these pairs is 9% over the last 52 weeks.... Furthermore, they have been negatively correlated over the last 50 days at a rate of -70%...... Snake oil sales at its finest here folks

Unabletrader
Quoting Unabletrader
{quote}
The probleme here is we suspect people to be scammers because they don't show any TE. If a commercial member is a professionnal and honest businessman he'll show sth AS SOON AS he want to sell sth. Consequently, this thread could only deal with scammers because if you're not a scammer, you just shut your mouth and you show a proven track record. On the other hand commercial members would show a proven track record wouldn't be attacked because numbers don't lie (less than words at least).
daddybearforex. com
  • #10
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:41am Nov 29, 2014 11:41am
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} See my answer above.
The answer is not satisfactory.
If trading is your primary source of income, why bother with the public?
It makes better business sense to structure and solidify the main revenue area rather than pick up pennies from the crowd.

Therefore the business model is always the same:

A small amount of token /pretense trading Vs a large amount of marketing / sales of services.
It cannot be any other way; If anyone can trade successfully the priority is to scale up the account because this the path of least resistance, enlisting joe public is not required !
  • #11
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:44am Nov 29, 2014 11:44am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Don't know or care if you are a scammer but as Shakespeare said - '' I think he doth protest too much'' Do have a couple of q's tho. Why would someone who just made 14700 pips in a month bother to sell his system for 20c a day? It's interesting that your TE is demo - why don't you have a live acct that would carry more weight. You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?
"You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?"
As mentioned above, My TE is for the demonstration of DBX. What if the account size is more than $50,000?
Can it be repeated? If I want it to be repeated, it will but may not be necessary when I just demonstrate DBX setups.
daddybearforex. com
  • #12
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:48am Nov 29, 2014 11:48am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} The answer is not satisfactory. If trading is your primary source of income, why bother with the public? It makes better business sense to structure and solidify the main revenue area rather than pick up pennies from the crowd. Therefore the business model is always the same: A small amount of token /pretense trading Vs a large amount of marketing / sales of services. It cannot be any other way; If anyone can trade successfully the priority is to scale up the account because this the path of least resistance, enlisting joe public is not...
I started this thread to list those FX criminals not to satisfy your curiosity.
No matter how much I explain my concepts to you, you will never be satisfied if you are preoccupied by a fixed concept. .
daddybearforex. com
  • #13
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:57am Nov 29, 2014 11:57am
I hope people understand that asking others to be confirming with your own ideology is not going to work.
This is a forum in the US and in N. Korea.
daddybearforex. com
  • #14
  • Nov 29, 2014 11:59am Nov 29, 2014 11:59am
For too long, those FX criminals could attack anyone or commercial members without any proofs.
It's time to stop such insane and irresponsible behaviors.
daddybearforex. com
  • #15
  • Edited 12:35pm Nov 29, 2014 12:17pm | Edited 12:35pm
To my understanding those FX criminals accusing others scamming have never paid one penny to purchase any systems or service listed in FF commercial forum.
Why, they have never show one little piece of proof that themselves or someone got scammed.
daddybearforex. com
  • #16
  • Nov 29, 2014 12:26pm Nov 29, 2014 12:26pm
The view of FX criminals:
They think every commercial member should have set up TE with a live account.
Whoever not conforming to their ideology is scamming.

IMO a micro or a mini account are not much different from a demo.
A standard lot live account is the only real live account.
Most retail traders don't have standard lot live accounts, why must commercial members have standard lot live accounts?
daddybearforex. com
  • #17
  • Nov 29, 2014 12:34pm Nov 29, 2014 12:34pm
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} "You got 14k pips in a month and made 10% - that is absolutely abysmal ROI with that performance - can you explain. Was that performance a one off or can/will it be repeated?" As mentioned above, My TE is for the demonstration of DBX. What if the account size is more than $50,000? Can it be repeated? If I want it to be repeated, it will but may not be necessary when I just demonstrate DBX setups.
DB, As Mingary mentioned your business model is flawed - the first rule of business is focus on the bottom line of the business not a philanthropic endeavour to improve noobies trading.

If you can make 14k pips a month on a consistent basis you are making good money even if you are only trading $1 pip.

I would posit that the overheads of running your web site and the time cost of administering the subscriber base mean the cost is straight off the bottom line and detracts from the core business - Trading - with very little comparative benefit.

You also didn't explain how you only made 10% after gaining 14k pips?
  • #18
  • Nov 29, 2014 12:37pm Nov 29, 2014 12:37pm
I know this is going to be a long war but I will not give up until those FX criminals are gone.
daddybearforex. com
  • #19
  • Nov 29, 2014 12:37pm Nov 29, 2014 12:37pm
Quoting DaddyBear
The view of FX criminals: They think every commercial member should have set up TE with a live account. Whoever not conforming to their ideology is scamming. IMO a micro or a mini account are not much different from a demo. A standard lot live account is the only real live account. Most retail traders don't have standard lot live accounts, why must commercial members have standard lot live accounts?
Atm all you have ''proved'' is that you can trade a demo account. Doesn't mean you are a scammer but it does raise some q's.
  • #20
  • Nov 29, 2014 12:40pm Nov 29, 2014 12:40pm
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} DB, As Mingary mentioned your business model is flawed - the first rule of business is focus on the bottom line of the business not a philanthropic endeavour to improve noobies trading. If you can make 14k pips a month on a consistent basis you are making good money even if you are only trading $1 pip. I would posit that the overheads of running your web site and the time cost of administering the subscriber base mean the cost is straight off the bottom line and detracts from the core business - Trading - with very little comparative benefit....
Let me put it this way.
A great soccer players is near the retirement age. He wants to became a coach but a lot of people ask him to play soccer because he was so good.
Does this answer your question. Pleased don't confine yourself in a preoccupied concept.
daddybearforex. com
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