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  • #77,501
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:25pm Nov 13, 2014 6:25pm
Quoting FXSayWhat
Hi All. is there anyone one here using the Sonic system consistently and successfully on a US account at 1:50 leverage and also have a demo or live explorer available? This is a very interesting system, and i would like to learn and also compare it with my full manual trading system. Appreciated.
FXSayWhat,

The Sonic R. System is all manual. I do not know of any Sonicer that uses Explorer. The only way you are going to learn it is to get involved with it: do the Post #1 Homework, and then get your feet wet, and over time improve in your application of it.

-tah
  • #77,502
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:34pm Nov 13, 2014 6:34pm
Quoting traderathome
NZDUSD Short Trade Open: M15 Classic, pre-LS entry. With today comes multiple USD high impact releases, which the AS MMs might "react to" in advance. No TP/SL yet. {image}
NZDUSD Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 23.2 pips average/total.
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  • #77,503
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting traderathome
AUDUSD Short Trade Open: M15 Classic entries. No TP/SL at this time. This one could be interesting in the AS, since this AS is the last for the week. Do those MMs know what is coming in the USD releases? The essence of them? Of course they do. So, will they play their hand this AS, before the releases, or wait for next week? In that regard, it will be interesting to see what the LS MMs do. Will they too wait until next week, so that they all have a fair shot at whatever is planned? Or, will it be "Every man MM for himself!" on the last day? {image}...
AUDUSD Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 26.2 pips average, 52.4 pips total.
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  • #77,504
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm
Opened Scout short EUR/USD
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  • #77,505
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm Nov 13, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} FXSayWhat, The Sonic R. System is all manual. I do not know of any Sonicer that uses Explorer. The only way you are going to learn it is to get involved with it: do the Post #1 Homework, and then get your feet wet, and over time improve in your application of it. -tah
traderathome, thanks for the reply.

This week I have been competing with KecoaKecil on demo ranked (me at 1:50 and she at 1:500 leverage), and this is how i got here in the thread since she was using sonic. So it got me curious if there is any US explorer here would like to share their progress in demo or live.

Yes, for sure i would look into this system this week. It's a very interesting system indeed, and i am getting a feeling that the core idea is the same as mine.

btw, please meeting very one here.
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  • #77,506
  • Nov 13, 2014 6:39pm Nov 13, 2014 6:39pm
EURUSD Short Trade Open/Close:

Closed for gain of 6.5 pips average, 38.9 pips total. Recovering some of yesterday losses on this one. I suspect this first move down on some pairs, early in the AS, will be countered with retrace moves. If it happens, it might present decent re-entry opportunities.
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  • #77,507
  • Edited 7:42pm Nov 13, 2014 7:07pm | Edited 7:42pm
GBPJPY Short Trade Open/Closed:

Scout entries. They are based on the extenuating circumstance of the price being rammed up in the early part of the AS, which rarely happens and which has nearly doubled the typical AS range. So, either this is the start of a bull swing (on a Friday?), or because the GBP is getting hammered (see GBPUSD), or because something is being planned for all the YEN pairs, the MMs decided to spike this up to close longs and open shorts ahead of more downside to come. My bet is on the latter, but I could be wrong. Anyway, I am on the lookout for a Classic short setup to come. Time will tell.
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Edit:

Closed trade for gain of 42.2 pips average, 253.4 pips total.
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  • #77,508
  • Nov 13, 2014 7:42pm Nov 13, 2014 7:42pm
Quoting leentjai
Opened Scout short EUR/USD {image}
Closed short with tiny profit +31 p total
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  • #77,509
  • Nov 13, 2014 7:51pm Nov 13, 2014 7:51pm
EURUSD Short Trade Open:

M15 Classic, pre-LS entry. AS started this down right off the bat. Now it has retraced. It might retrace more. If it does, I might add short Scouts, because I see this AS PA as bearish.
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  • #77,510
  • Nov 13, 2014 8:29pm Nov 13, 2014 8:29pm
Quoting traderathome
EURUSD Short Trade Open: M15 Classic, pre-LS entry. AS started this down right off the bat. Now it has retraced. It might retrace more. If it does, I might add short Scouts, because I see this AS PA as bearish. {image}
Hi TAH,
i still obey the rules strictly. So there is coming a question that is the PA more important to the rule of trading time limit? I think maket cannot move too much when it is be4 the LS. So i still wait!

---Ryan
  • #77,511
  • Nov 13, 2014 8:32pm Nov 13, 2014 8:32pm
Quoting ryanwong
{quote} Hi TAH, i still obey the rules strictly. So there is coming a question that is the PA more important to the rule of trading time limit? I think maket cannot move too much when it is be4 the LS. So i still wait! ---Ryan
I explained why I thought the AS might be different today. Look back at my AU trade post.
  • #77,512
  • Nov 13, 2014 9:04pm Nov 13, 2014 9:04pm
Make Up Your Own Mind, Then Progress

Sonicers,

Please take a look at this PM I recently received. I am sure the experience this trader is having is echoed around amongst us all. Read it and understand that no one here is alone in their experiences. Here is the body of the PM......
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And I would like to answer this trader's question so that all Sonicers that are interested will have their answer, too.

To prevent damage I do at least two things - or try to, anyway - which are to keep the vision of the Classic setup at the foreground of my mind, and to always trade light so that I have room to wiggle. I guess two of the most dangerous things a trader with a successful system can do are: 1) deviate from it when a strong conviction about how price will move overcomes the trader and tempts the trader to deviate from the system, and 2) to "bet the farm" on it! And I think the issue of over trading, or taking time off, is very simply answered by patience to await a proper setup. That will keep the trader from over trading. And if the trader is not over trading, the trader really does not need time off.

Sonicer, for years here I have remarked about the benefits of trading light relative to account size. As you accept the need for patience in stalking for a qualified trade, so be patient with profiting. Stick with the system and be conservative with entry size.
  • #77,513
  • Nov 13, 2014 9:08pm Nov 13, 2014 9:08pm
Quoting traderathome
EURUSD Short Trade Open: M15 Classic, pre-LS entry. AS started this down right off the bat. Now it has retraced. It might retrace more. If it does, I might add short Scouts, because I see this AS PA as bearish. {image}
EURUSD Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 13.3 pips average, 26.6 pips total. Time for another - maybe better - retrace into the LS?
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  • #77,514
  • Nov 14, 2014 12:37am Nov 14, 2014 12:37am
Quoting traderathome
Make Up Your Own Mind, Then Progress Sonicers, Please take a look at this PM I recently received. I am sure the experience this trader is having is echoed around amongst us all. Read it and understand that no one here is alone in their experiences. Here is the body of the PM......{image} And I would like to answer this trader's question so that all Sonicers that are interested will have their answer, too. To prevent damage I do at least two things - or try to, anyway - which are to keep the vision of the Classic setup at the foreground of my mind,...
Hello Tah,

What position size you suggest for an account of 10.000 USD? I feel comfortable opening positions 0.25 lot and sometimes if i am really confident 0.50 lot

Thanks

Demarko
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  • #77,515
  • Nov 14, 2014 1:25am Nov 14, 2014 1:25am
Quoting demarko7
{quote} Hello Tah, What position size you suggest for an account of 10.000 USD? I feel comfortable opening positions 0.25 lot and sometimes if i am really confident 0.50 lot Thanks Demarko
hi demarko,
i think u make a good question abt the money management. and i think that is the most important part in trading to make a consecutive money. Mostly, my openning lot depends my first SL, and every risk of my trading should not more than 2%. Anyone has any other good suggestions?

----Ryanwong
  • #77,516
  • Nov 14, 2014 1:55am Nov 14, 2014 1:55am
I detect unusual activity EURUSD pair very close to LS opening. Think about it, this is week end, MM want to bag some profit for their party. They driving this up before LS? Must be bear, so i short this, and let see. ^_^
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  • #77,517
  • Nov 14, 2014 2:04am Nov 14, 2014 2:04am
Classic Sonic entry Eur/jpy
This trade didn't work out The price totally reversed after my entry .... I guess I was at the wrong side of the higher time frame trend
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  • #77,518
  • Edited 4:04am Nov 14, 2014 3:45am | Edited 4:04am
Quoting forexworld12
Classic Sonic entry Eur/jpy This trade didn't work out The price totally reversed after my entry .... I guess I was at the wrong side of the higher time frame trend {image}
forexworld12,

Take a closer look at the Dragon angle during the setup and entry. For the most part it was actually angled up! Yes, at the time of entry it had started to angle down, but the overall situation was far from ideal. The angle of the Dragon is important, and is mentioned as a condition in the Manual (see Post #1 link). Perhaps not clear there, but it is logical that it is better the Dragon be angled up/down throughout the setup, not just at the very end when entry is made. It is a matter of degree, and a way you can better qualify setups.
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Look at the angle of the Dragon and the duration of the angle throughout the setup indicated. Admittedly, they won't always be this nice. As I said, it is a matter of degrees. But it is important and something for traders to evaluate when making a decision about a setup.
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  • #77,519
  • Nov 14, 2014 3:52am Nov 14, 2014 3:52am
Quoting demarko7
{quote} Hello Tah, What position size you suggest for an account of 10.000 USD? I feel comfortable opening positions 0.25 lot and sometimes if i am really confident 0.50 lot Thanks Demarko
demarko7,

I see nothing wrong with those conservative sizes for entries. That is good protection for you. As your account grows, you will feel comfortable increasing them proportionally.

-tah
  • #77,520
  • Nov 14, 2014 3:55am Nov 14, 2014 3:55am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} demarko7, I see nothing wrong with those conservative sizes for entries. That is good protection for you. As your account grows, you will feel comfortable increasing them proportionally. -tah
thank you Tah
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