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  • #77,361
  • Nov 10, 2014 6:05pm Nov 10, 2014 6:05pm
GU Long Trade Open:

M5 Classic, pre-LS.

The basis for this long trade in the face of the H1 chart showing a down trend is the very high volume below the lower whole number (at the lows on the chart) versus the not so high volume above the upper whole number (more recent highs on the chart). In other words, their seems to be far more interest in closing shorts and going long, than in closing longs and going short. So, with nice bullish waves present on M5 following the MMs getting the price below the half number - a PVSRA indication of possible bulls - I have decided to risk this entry.
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  • #77,362
  • Nov 10, 2014 6:18pm Nov 10, 2014 6:18pm
Price displayed are not the same, what is the reason?
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  • #77,363
  • Nov 10, 2014 6:26pm Nov 10, 2014 6:26pm
Quoting Kingsford
Price displayed are not the same, what is the reason? {image}
Kingsford,

I have no idea why. Slow data feed/internet problem? MT4 problem? Not likely our template/indicators, since they work fine and have been since they were released. Switch the chart TF back and forth once. See if it helps.
  • #77,364
  • Nov 10, 2014 6:34pm Nov 10, 2014 6:34pm
Very strange, GBPUSD display is not normal, EURJPY display properly.
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  • #77,365
  • Nov 10, 2014 6:48pm Nov 10, 2014 6:48pm
Quoting Kingsford
Very strange, GBPUSD display is not normal, EURJPY display properly. {image}
Kingsford,

There are no other reports of such a problem. If it was not a problem before and just occurred, and only on GU, I would suspect GU data corruption and that means the problem is with the broker. Otherwise, if the problem is across multiple pairs then either MT4 is corrupted and you need to update/reinstall, or you need to reinstall the indicators/template,......or both. Did you change the GU chart TF back and forth? Did it help?
  • #77,366
  • Nov 10, 2014 7:42pm Nov 10, 2014 7:42pm
@forexn00b & @Retsu,

Thanks a lot guys... I got it now...


@ Sonic R,

Tons of thanks for sharing such a wonderful system & the regular updates...
Started reading all the post from yesterday, hope slowly i can become a consistent winner...
A person who never made a mistake, never tried anything new.
  • #77,367
  • Nov 10, 2014 8:42pm Nov 10, 2014 8:42pm
Quoting traderathome
AUDUSD: Sonicers, AUD high impact release in about 40 minutes. M30 chart helps us to see the 1/4 Level as pivotal S&R area. And yesterday the MMs brought the price down to it (and thru it). A Classic long setup might be coming, and sooner on M5 than M15. It might be worth keeping an eye on this one. Just remember that what the Asian session MMs drive one way, the LS MMs might drive backwards somewhat and start again themselves. {image}
AUDUSD Long Trade Open/Close:

Closed for gain of 21.8 pips average, 218.2 pips total.

As per earlier post preceding the AUD high impact release, it looked bullish. Also, I had first entered a long Scout late in previous US session on bullish PA waves following yesterday's price whacking by the MMs.

I do not think the move up is done for the day, but it might be done until the LS. And between now and into the LS, price might be retraced. So, I decided to take profit and wait further development.
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  • #77,368
  • Nov 10, 2014 8:52pm Nov 10, 2014 8:52pm
NZDUSD Long Trade Open:

M5 Classic, pre-LS first entry, and long Scout addition. No TP/SL at this time, though I see DR1 as a conservative TP area.

This is based on same reasons as AU long trade was based on: price whacking yesterday followed by nice bullish PA waves starting once the MMs had the price below the half number. And today, the highest activity has so far been at the lows of the day and as price moved up off those lows, all below the half number which is a PVSRA indication of bulls.

Whether the price goes up, down or both, I am looking to build this long trade at whatever good price opportunities I see.
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  • #77,369
  • Nov 10, 2014 9:19pm Nov 10, 2014 9:19pm
Quoting YSmani
Hi Everyone, I am new to this thread. ""In page 1: Sonic R. System Manual The most recent pdf. can be found HERE. (the link will go to Page 3655) How to sneak into classic setup After the first PDF "exploit the market price" I received many question about classic. Due to the importance of classic entry, I decide to share once again from my home work. This pdf help new sonicer step by step to sneak a classic entry. Hope it help. Regards, Gupito Poernawan Attached File {image}...
Quoting YSmani
@ ryanwong google that how to open the *.pdf file. Error: "THERE WAS AN ERROR OPENING THIS DOCUMENT. THE FILE IS DAMAGED AND COULD NOT BE REPAIRED" When i try to open the Downloaded PDF. And the same goes for the below PDF as well... The "Secret" of the Sonic R. System Classic Setup Find out why the Sonic R. Classic set ups have been profitable, read the "Secret of Sonic R." pdf. HERE. CAN ANY ONE SHARE THE PDF IN GOOD...
All work and succeed to download. Maybe you should check your Internet connection, and made sure your machine is okay, free from malware. I've been checked all the link above and all file is fit...
Regards,
-GP-
It's all started from page one
  • #77,370
  • Nov 10, 2014 9:55pm Nov 10, 2014 9:55pm
NZDUSD:

Sonicers,

I have a long trade running on this, already posted, and I feel this could be a good one, enough so that I am posting again on this pair.

Look at the recent whackings below the half number, and the relative volume increases associated with them. I feel PVSRA is screaming "Bulls!" Now, we cannot know how price will move next, but surely this is one to watch for a Classic long setup.
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  • #77,371
  • Nov 10, 2014 10:15pm Nov 10, 2014 10:15pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AUDUSD Long Trade Open/Close: Closed for gain of 21.8 pips average, 218.2 pips total. As per earlier post preceding the AUD high impact release, it looked bullish. Also, I had first entered a long Scout late in previous US session on bullish PA waves following yesterday's price whacking by the MMs. I do not think the move up is done for the day, but it might be done until the LS. And between now and into the LS, price might be retraced. So, I decided to take profit and wait further development. {image}
hi TAH,

i understood ur first scout EP, but why you opened such a lot trades during last Friday that the data coming up? did they kind of sonic system style entry?classic?scout?re-entry?

i quite confuse abt that.appreciate to wait 4 ur words, cheers mate.

----Ryan
  • #77,372
  • Edited 11:20pm Nov 10, 2014 11:06pm | Edited 11:20pm
Quoting ryanwong
{quote} hi TAH, i understood ur first scout EP, but why you opened such a lot trades during last Friday that the data coming up? did they kind of sonic system style entry?classic?scout?re-entry? i quite confuse abt that.appreciate to wait 4 ur words, cheers mate. ----Ryan
That move down, during which I stacked up entries, was a stop hunt on longs. It is typical MMs manipulation to pull a stunt like that before getting on with the trade. For me, it was an opportunity to build my trade. That was how I saw it. That is how I played it, using Scout entries in support of the original entry, as the MMs whacked the price to load up longs themselves. It was adding to a trade that was in the red, but with the extenuating circumstance mentioned. Adding to trades in the red is not recommended, not unless - at the very least - PA is again constructing PA waves that support the direction of the trade. There was none of that here. This was very risky.
  • #77,373
  • Nov 10, 2014 11:30pm Nov 10, 2014 11:30pm
Quoting traderathome
NZDUSD: Sonicers, I have a long trade running on this, already posted, and I feel this could be a good one, enough so that I am posting again on this pair. Look at the recent whackings below the half number, and the relative volume increases associated with them. I feel PVSRA is screaming "Bulls!" Now, we cannot know how price will move next, but surely this is one to watch for a Classic long setup. {image}
NZDUSD:

Sonicers,

As you can see, after the last post, the MMs continued to whack it further below the half number. You can also see the relative volume increasing as they manipulated the price lower. So, nothing has changed. Nothing, except that the Asian session MMs obtained lower prices at which to accumulate longs. That should translate into a lower EP ares for a Classic long setup.

We cannot know how the MMs will move price, but breaking the drawn TL and running the price lower below the half number, and having the volume increase in the process, continues to be a PVSRA indication that bulls are running the show here. This is how I see it. I could be wrong, have been before. Time will tell.
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  • #77,374
  • Nov 11, 2014 12:00am Nov 11, 2014 12:00am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} NZDUSD: Sonicers, As you can see, after the last post, the MMs continued to whack it further below the half number. You can also see the relative volume increasing as they manipulated the price lower. So, nothing has changed. Nothing, except that the Asian session MMs obtained lower prices at which to accumulate longs. That should translate into a lower EP ares for a Classic long setup. We cannot know how the MMs will move price, but breaking the drawn TL and running the price lower below the half number, and having the volume increase in...
TAH, I'm just curious... what if, after London Open, the London MM has a different interest to Asian MM? What do we do if "a bigger fish wants to eat a big fish"...
  • #77,375
  • Nov 11, 2014 12:10am Nov 11, 2014 12:10am
Quoting Gupito

All work and succeed to download. Maybe you should check your Internet connection, and made sure your machine is okay, free from malware. I've been checked all the link above and all file is fit...
Regards,
-GP-


Hi GP,
Thanks for your mge, my system & internet connection are in good condition. I don't know, why i faced issue for the PDF.
Anyhow, thanks a lot guys.

Thanks,
Mani.
A person who never made a mistake, never tried anything new.
  • #77,376
  • Nov 11, 2014 12:32am Nov 11, 2014 12:32am
Quoting wccmcd
{quote} TAH, I'm just curious... what if, after London Open, the London MM has a different interest to Asian MM? What do we do if "a bigger fish wants to eat a big fish"...
You are asking what to do "....if the price moves lower...." and the answer depends on your method of money management. If your rule is to cut the trade off at a certain level, regardless of all else, then that is what you do. If your method is to stay with the trade because a move lower might be the LS MMs way of obtaining liquidity to build for the same trade you are in, and your account can take it, then that is what you do.

Each trader needs to plan for such an event, to know if they are going to fold, hold or even add based on what clues they had and what new clues there might be. You see, "negative" price movement does not in and of itself invalidate a trade. It can actually validate a trade because it could be a liquidity creation move to stop out "right side" traders and trigger the pending orders of "wrong side" traders. This "thievery" gives the Robber Banks the money to fill their own orders for the same trade.
  • #77,377
  • Nov 11, 2014 12:43am Nov 11, 2014 12:43am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} You are asking what to do "....if the price moves lower...." and the answer depends on your method of money management. If your rule is to cut the trade off at a certain level, regardless of all else, then that is what you do. If your method is to stay with the trade because a move lower might be the LS MMs way of obtaining liquidity to build for the same trade you are in, and your account can take it, then that is what you do. Each trader needs to plan for such an event, to know if they are going to fold, hold or even add based on what...
Great answer, TAH. I think I should go and review the Money Management Section of Sonic R system. Thank you very much for your reply.
  • #77,378
  • Edited 4:13am Nov 11, 2014 2:23am | Edited 4:13am
EURGBP Short Trade Open:

M15 Classic. EP a bit early but Classic Wave M5 seems to be good. 2x Re-Entries at following fib-retracement if direction is correct.


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- Any Feedbacks are welcome -

Update:

Sell Limit @ 61,8 Fib-Retracement, same SL/TP

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Update 2:

Sell Limit @ new 50 Fib-Retracement, MM: move SL from 1 Position to previous high. If 2 Position got opened, same SL at previous high. ( you can place agressive Sell Limit at 23,6 or 38.2 Fib )

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  • #77,379
  • Nov 11, 2014 2:33am Nov 11, 2014 2:33am
Quoting traderathome
USDCAD Short Trade Open: Scout entry. This is based on the potential for a H&S depicted on H4 and the return of price to a pivotal S&R area (FR retrace 50%) on totally unremarkable volume which has actually been declining since the highest volumes at the lows today. So, to me, this looks like a reasonable area for the temporary bulls to start off-loading their recently acquired longs and start building short again. We cannot know how price will move next, and this trade is without a Classic setup, so it is very high risk. And I will not be surprised...
A good re entry is coming at 1.14 ...
  • #77,380
  • Nov 11, 2014 2:38am Nov 11, 2014 2:38am
Hi,

Just started learning Sonic R System.
The Entry is correct?


Thanks,
Mani.
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