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  • #77,341
  • Nov 10, 2014 11:16am Nov 10, 2014 11:16am
Quoting YSmani
@forexn00b I have the latest version of Adobe, also i have downloaded few other PDF from this thread & i can open that. At the moment, i face issue on the below two PDF. Sonic R. System Manual The most recent pdf. can be found HERE. The "Secret" of the Sonic R. System Classic Setup Find out why the Sonic R. Classic set ups have been profitable, read the "Secret of Sonic R." pdf. HERE. I guess,...
Try these files, I converted the PDFs to version 4.0 for you:

https://mega.co.nz/#!lZphCAwa!Gksaol...c6alV3qUsu4_5E

https://mega.co.nz/#!gYYyDRwI!ZbRSLJ...fxyKEeSiQFaFW4

Cheers!
Stay green! FN
  • #77,342
  • Nov 10, 2014 11:28am Nov 10, 2014 11:28am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDCAD Long Trade Closed: Closed for gain of 8.2 pips average, 82 pips total. With the LS coming to a close I am taking profit because this really has not broken up. It is too late in the LS to be confident that it will do so today. And now, at any time, the MMs might begin to retrace it for more long building. The week is still young and the MMs might well be still "price positioning" for what they have planned for later in the week. {image}
Thanks TAH for indication

Note: maybe exit was to early, I think should have move SL to BE ...

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  • #77,343
  • Nov 10, 2014 11:30am Nov 10, 2014 11:30am
@forexn00b

Thanks a lot buddy ... but unfortunately both the page was not opening...

Error: THE WEBPAGE IS NOT AVAILABLE


Thanks.
A person who never made a mistake, never tried anything new.
  • #77,344
  • Nov 10, 2014 11:40am Nov 10, 2014 11:40am
Evaluating, Looking for a Trade?

Sonicers,

If you will look at my USDCAD trade close post above, you will see something that might help you to better qualify setups. See how M15 has become bullish, but H1 so far remains in a bearish down trend. Sometimes a retrace move on a lower TF, of the trend indicated in the larger TF, can get PA on that lower TF to show MMs to be in the opposite camp than they appear to be on the larger TF. Which is correct? If the move is only a retrace, then the larger TF is correct. If the move is the start of a trend reversal, then the lower TF is correct.

So, which is it? We cannot know! We must wait for more PA and more clues (PVSRA) to be more sure. So, the conclusion here should be that when the M15 and H1 are not in agreement, any trade on M15 should be suspect and with conservative target. More safely though, would be to simply not trade M15 setups unless the H1 and the M15 are playing the same tune.

Keep in mind that the early part of every week is not the environment to expect big moves in the true trend. It is most often a time when the MMs are positioning prices for something like that to come later in the week, or the following week. So, the early part of the week is a time to be suspect of setups and to favor conservative targets for them, and best to be patient to await more time and clues as to what the MMs are really up to before trading.

-tah
  • #77,345
  • Edited 12:39pm Nov 10, 2014 12:03pm | Edited 12:39pm
Quoting YSmani
@forexn00b Thanks a lot buddy ... but unfortunately both the page was not opening... Error: THE WEBPAGE IS NOT AVAILABLE Thanks.
Ohh. Maybe linking not working correctly. Try these:

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Stay green! FN
  • #77,346
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:07pm Nov 10, 2014 12:07pm
@forexn00b

No luck again, same error....


Thanks.
A person who never made a mistake, never tried anything new.
  • #77,347
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:17pm Nov 10, 2014 12:17pm
today,i made mistake in usd/cad. i build short ,and suffered 200pips loss. get back to my analysis, i wacthed h4 and h1 chart,and make sure pa is in downtrend,and also watched 5m chart. in 5m chart,i found two kinds of clues.one was blue painted ,the other is a green candle,which is in the middle.
in my thoughts,blue painted area means mmsare bulls .but the candle with huge vol ,in my thoughts ,they are bears. i think trend is most important,so i build shorts.but i am wrong. anyone help?
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  • #77,348
  • Edited 1:08pm Nov 10, 2014 12:40pm | Edited 1:08pm
Quoting lzhcz
today,i made mistake in usd/cad. i build short ,and suffered 200pips loss. get back to my analysis, i wacthed h4 and h1 chart,and make sure pa is in downtrend,and also watched 5m chart. in 5m chart,i found two kinds of clues.one was blue painted ,the other is a green candle,which is in the middle. in my thoughts,blue painted area means mmsare bulls .but the candle with huge vol ,in my thoughts ,they are bears. i think trend is most important,so i build shorts.but i am wrong. anyone help? {image}
lzhcz,

First of all, you are not using the prescribed template!
Secondly, you do not show where your entry was: time and place.
Thirdly, you posted before on USDCAD without a pic.,.......http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...55#post7859255

If you had posted before with a pic, using proper template, and if you had posted your trade entry with a proper template, someone else here might have had a suggestion for you. The red bars down could have been bulls whacking the price to accumulate longs. And they did not make a lower low when they did so. That was a clue they were bulls. And the very strong green bar move back up was confirmation of this. And, if you trade M5, you need to be quicker to react to PA that goes against your trade. And, you need to be very cautious with trades early in the week!
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As it stands now, looking at H4, there is the potential for a H&S move, maybe sometime later this week. The move up today looks more and more like the MMs have just been pumping price as a liquidity creation event so they can build short.
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The H1 chart helps us see that the MMs have whipped the price up to the 3/4 Level area, which is pivotal S&R. Unless some really strong bull signals appear, I would be stalking for a proper Classic short setup now. We can never know how the MMs will manipulate price. Especially early in the week we need to be very reserved about jumping into any trade. It is most often best to sit things out, wait for more and maybe clearer indications as to what might be coming.
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  • #77,349
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:02pm Nov 10, 2014 1:02pm
thanks prof, i used to simple ma,so i changed the template. i did not trade in 5m chart. i trade in 1h chart.when i trade ,i will go through daily、 4h、1h... to 1m chart, analyzing lower time chart is to make out mms intetion.this two months, i always trade usd/cad. through all those trades,i know more about pvsra,that is very magic 。but the market is very mysterious. maybe my reading ability of candles is very poor. your comment will make me to some books,about candle . thank you.

more :my mistake is reading big green canle wrong , the blue painted area is a strong bull indaction ,for the vol increased just below quarter level.i guess bulls,but reading green candle wrong make me lose . go back to canle books again. thank you
  • #77,350
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:12pm Nov 10, 2014 1:12pm
Quoting YSmani
@forexn00b No luck again, same error.... Thanks.
here are online versions of the files

http://www.docdroid.net/ky6i/sneak-i...erted.pdf.html
http://www.docdroid.net/ky6i/sneak-i...erted.pdf.html

Retsu
Everything happens for a reason...
  • #77,351
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:23pm Nov 10, 2014 1:23pm
Quoting YSmani
@forexn00b No luck again, same error.... Thanks.
Try post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...42#post7860142 I uploaded the files!
Stay green! FN
  • #77,352
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:24pm Nov 10, 2014 1:24pm
Quoting lzhcz
thanks prof, i used to simple ma,so i changed the template. i did not trade in 5m chart. i trade in 1h chart.when i trade ,i will go through daily、 4h、1h... to 1m chart, analyzing lower time chart is to make out mms intetion.this two months, i always trade usd/cad. through all those trades,i know more about pvsra,that is very magic 。but the market is very mysterious. maybe my reading ability of candles is very poor. your comment will make me to some books,about candle . thank you. more :my mistake is reading big green canle...
What Kind of "Trading Food" Are You Feeding Your Mind?

lzhcz, and Sonicers,

I suspect that reading the typical type of "educational" materials available will not help. The most important thing to know is that markets are highly manipulated for the purpose of stealing money. They win, you lose. And the most powerful tools we can use to defend against this thievery by the Robber Banks/MMs are:

1. correct knowledge of S&R (Levels),
2. see what the MMs are up to when they get price to key S&R areas, which PVSRA helps us to do,
3. and temper our urge to trade (and our decision as to what direction to trade) by waiting for proper Classic setups.

Think about this. All the typical type of "educational" material available has not proven to be the way for average folks to succeed in these highly price manipulated markets, now has it.

We here at the Sonic R. System are taking a wholly different approach to trading, based on the fact that markets are highly manipulated for the purpose of stealing money, and we have created a system that works to help traders achieve more success in this environment.

-tah
  • #77,353
  • Edited 2:08pm Nov 10, 2014 1:34pm | Edited 2:08pm
USDCAD Short Trade Open:

Scout entry. This is based on the potential for a H&S depicted on H4 and the return of price to a pivotal S&R area (FR retrace 50%) on totally unremarkable volume which has actually been declining since the highest volumes at the lows today. So, to me, this looks like a reasonable area for the temporary bulls to start off-loading their recently acquired longs and start building short again. We cannot know how price will move next, and this trade is without a Classic setup, so it is very high risk. And I will not be surprised if the MMs hike the price further, to the FR 62% area above the upper whole number,....where I will add if they do. I decided to start the trade here, in case they do not.
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  • #77,354
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:37pm Nov 10, 2014 1:37pm
the deepest things in pvsra is game theroy . when we trade ,we are gaming ,the counter part is mms. pvrsa makes mms trade habit clear.
but in s single case, the outer of situation is different.i think maybe we should be apt at some basic knowledge of candles.that is
why i want to go back to books
  • #77,355
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:49pm Nov 10, 2014 1:49pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} What Kind of "Trading Food" Are You Feeding Your Mind? lzhcz, and Sonicers, I suspect that reading the typical type of "educational" materials available will not help. The most important thing to know is that markets are highly manipulated for the purpose of stealing money. They win, you lose. And the most powerful tools we can use to defend against this thievery by the Robber Banks/MMs are: 1. correct knowledge of S&R (Levels), 2. see what the MMs are up to when they get price to key S&R areas, which PVSRA helps us to do, 3. and temper...
Many thanks to Traderathome

This past 2 weeks i have been trading with SonicR system and i think i have learned more than the previous 3 years i have been trading ( demo account of course), and finally i see a lot of green pips. I read every night after work as more posts of TAH i can, because every post is of good learning quality. This MMs situation were they manipulate the price was unknown of me. Thank god i have found this thread. Still a lot of studying ahead about PVSRA but it started to make sense thanks TAH

demarko.
'Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication'
  • #77,356
  • Nov 10, 2014 2:16pm Nov 10, 2014 2:16pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} What Kind of "Trading Food" Are You Feeding Your Mind? lzhcz, and Sonicers, I suspect that reading the typical type of "educational" materials available will not help. The most important thing to know is that markets are highly manipulated for the purpose of stealing money. They win, you lose. And the most powerful tools we can use to defend against this thievery by the Robber Banks/MMs are: 1. correct knowledge of S&R (Levels), 2. see what the MMs are up to when they get price to key S&R areas, which PVSRA helps us to do, 3. and temper our urge to trade (and our decision as to what direction to trade) by waiting for proper Classic setups. Think about this. All the typical type of "educational" material available has not proven to be the way for average folks to succeed in these highly price manipulated markets, now has it. We here at the Sonic R. System are taking a wholly different approach to trading, based on the fact that markets are highly manipulated for the purpose of stealing money, and we have created a system that works to help traders achieve more success in this environment. -tah
Quoting lzhcz
the deepest things in pvsra is game theroy . when we trade ,we are gaming ,the counter part is mms. pvrsa makes mms trade habit clear. but in s single case, the outer of situation is different.i think maybe we should be apt at some basic knowledge of candles.that is why i want to go back to books
Studying Candles?

lzhcz and Sonicers,

I just expressed my opinion. You are your own master. I will add the following.

Over time and with the advent of high powered computers, the markets have become more manipulated, and more easily so than ever before! This has not worked to invalidate the traditional interpretation of candles, but it has done a lot to invalidate the traditional "predictions" to be made from most of them! About the only candles that still have a significance that is relatively reliable are engulfing candles and hammer/pin bar candles.

I am not against reading anything that might help traders get a foothold on how markets work. Nobody should be. Good luck.

-tah
  • #77,357
  • Nov 10, 2014 4:28pm Nov 10, 2014 4:28pm
Opened and closed Short Scout AUD/USD +4800 total
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  • #77,358
  • Nov 10, 2014 4:36pm Nov 10, 2014 4:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Studying Candles? lzhcz and Sonicers, I just expressed my opinion. You are your own master. I will add the following. Over time and with the advent of high powered computers, the markets have become more manipulated, and more easily so than ever before! This has not worked to invalidate the traditional interpretation of candles, but it has done a lot to invalidate the traditional "predictions" to be made from most of them! About the only candles that still have a significance that is relatively reliable are engulfing candles and...
I'm 100% agree with you TAH !This words :''. And the most powerful tools we can use to defend against this thievery by the Robber Banks/MMs are: 1. correct knowledge of S&R (Levels), 2. see what the MMs are up to when they get price to key S&R areas, which PVSRA helps us to do, 3. and temper our urge to trade (and our decision as to what direction to trade) by waiting for proper Classic setups. "we Sonicers have to remember all time.Thank you againe TAH !!!!!
  • #77,359
  • Nov 10, 2014 5:41pm Nov 10, 2014 5:41pm
Quoting YSmani
@forexn00b No luck again, same error.... Thanks.
The Post #1 hyperlink to the critical information "Sneak into classic" pdf in post 73081 is repaired.
  • #77,360
  • Nov 10, 2014 5:52pm Nov 10, 2014 5:52pm
AUDUSD:

Sonicers,

AUD high impact release in about 40 minutes. M30 chart helps us to see the 1/4 Level as pivotal S&R area. And yesterday the MMs brought the price down to it (and thru it). A Classic long setup might be coming, and sooner on M5 than M15. It might be worth keeping an eye on this one. Just remember that what the Asian session MMs drive one way, the LS MMs might drive backwards somewhat and start again themselves.
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