Sonic R. System

EURUSD 15m.

Classic Short?

FFCal Panel News Alerts!

Bernhard,

Well, I am a stubborn man that refuses to quit. I have resolved the problem.

The upgrade SonicR FFCal Panel indicator will have an alert for each of the 4 news events! There are 4 external inputs to allow you to do this. In each, just change the input number from "0" to the number of minutes before the news that you want the alert to trigger. So, you can set the alert for any of, or all 4 of the news events shown in the FFCal Panel. Input your minutes numbers and forget it. Simple as pie! When the specified time for a news event arrives, the alert is triggered. As before, the user needs to "zero" these 4 external inputs when alerts are not desired.

-tah


Example: Alert on first event triggered......

Example: Alert on second event triggered.....

that is great
the new version is at page one already?
I will report you the test

Bernhard,

It will be with the next release, soon to come (I hope).

-tah

EURUSD:

Is this a Stop Hunt of shorts,......MMs taking it back up to half number area on notable volume? Looks like MMs getting the price up before the coming releases. Better that way for ongoing accumulation of shorts.

AUDUSD:

Potential H&S here.......

turel,

No, you do not "need" help. You just "want" someone to give you the answer. It can be found in the User Notes of the indicator. Do your own Post #1 Homework. Don't bother Sonicers with questions like this!

And why would you want to hide the results of your trades?

-tah

Hi TAH,

i am thinking the same, time for us to "short building".

each 50pips+ in long direction i will open a short (start with 1.2560)

forexTN14,

Well, yesterday I went short below the lower whole number (posted on thread). Been waiting for this upside pressure to cease and price to drop again. I believe we are correct in our assessment of this, but I am working on replacing my bad habit of adding to trades in the red with the habit of patience to wait for approved signs the price has turned (new Classic setup, but maybe while price is still red).

So, I sit and wait this out. They might take it closer to the upper whole number, maybe the 1.258x area. There is plenty of time before the major releases for them to do this. We can never know. There might yet be another Stop Hunt of shorts after they have given this "enough" time at the higher prices for more and new shorters to place their orders. In that respect, RWH might be reached as part of another Stop Hunt in conjunction with the coming releases.

-tah

GBPUSD Long Trade Open:

M15 Classic entry, late LS.

On M15, things have the look of bulls. They also do on H1. No TP/SL yet, but RDH is a reasonable TP. And if the MMs get real frisky with their price manipulations in conjunction with coming releases, especially the USD releases, RWH could be reached. Part of the basis for this trade is that I am (now mistakenly) short EURUSD, so this is sort of a hedge.

Regarding GU,



Will set Buy Limit at Yearly S&R at 1.59460

PS: oh this isnt SonicR, so last post from me like that

forexTN14,

I don't care much for so many price derivative indicators as you show. I do much prefer the Sonic R. System template that uses price, volume, S&R analysis (PVSRA).

As you can see by comparing the two very different templates, the Sonic R. System template shows increased activity below the whole number, a PVSRA indication the MMs are probably bulls. I find this elegantly simple and effective.

Edit (about half hour later):
M1 shows some support for the guess that the MMs are bulls accumulating long orders. It shows that at the tail end of the LS, and into after-hours, the MMs pushed the price down. All this is on declining volume due to the time of the day and that most traders have gone, so it is unlikely the MMs would be trying to short in such a weak market. It would drive the price down on them too quickly. It is more reasonable they push the price down to coax in what shorters they can, while also triggering existing pending short orders placed by traders thinking if the price does drop a bit more, they want to be in short. And, of course, the price is back below the whole number, where MMs prefer to build long.

On this basis, I have added a long Scout to my trade, as you can see.

GBPJPY:

The Sonic R. System template shows PVSRA indications of bears.

Look at the increased activity during the MM's whacking of this today,.....twice! And both times their whacking started after first taking the price back up to/above the whole number, PVSRA indications the MMs are bears.

Now, notice on the Sonic R. System template that our FFCal Panel shows a JPY high impact release coming. We never can know how the MMs will move price next, but with the clues our template reveals, it seems this is a candidate to be on the watch for a Classic short setup.

Hi.

Loaded my sonics charts up, still havent been able to get a full understanding and there are no clear rules to me. Anyhow i can see many traders profits from sonic system.

So to go over it, there are lots of "important" areas plotted in the chart, aswell as the dragon and the moving average. but reading most of the entries in this thread and various PDF files reffered to by the first post it seems like our analyzis should be based on changes in volume, when the MM are opening shorts the bear volume will up and the price will also up, then we wait for MM to short again, we will now have a nice uptrend wave and a descending trendline above the bear volume candles.

This seems to be the reason for the majority of the entries, so what are the rest of the indicators for? and what about gold those days, it has pushed hard down recently after closing above 1250, it is suggested that gold will brach the 1160 area while it seems like MM went short but i have not seen an uptrend due to MM but its clearly decrising in volume of the bears.

Are this a valid long entry? is there no complete textbook about sonic system?

NWGstudent,

"Are this a valid long entry?"
"is there no complete textbook about sonic system?"

1. You obviously have not done your Sonic R. System Post #1 Homework.
2. Post #1 Homework leads you to manuals (with pictures), and much more so that you can understand how the market works, also!
3. Mind the Warnings in Post #1 if you wish to retain posting privileges!
4. Your postings on FF show that you probably are not intending to be a Sonicer, which probably says it all.
5. Focus, concentration, and diligence in work are required for success.

-tah

Meanderings.....

Classic entries, position building, adding to trades in the red,.......what is prescribed? What is the sense in it all?

The Classic is what is prescribed. That is the core setup. It is elegantly simple and effective. So, what about position building? What about adding to Classic trades? What about adding to them when they are in the red?

Position building has been around since the start of this thread, adding to the Classic trade as price moves in favor of the trade, with some posts talking of scaling in and scaling out. A more dangerous concept of position building is to think you know when the ultimate high or low is made and make your initial entry there, and then start adding more entries at subsequent highs/lows,....even if it turns out your initial guess was wrong! This is not recommended. Trying to outguess the MMs as to when ultimate highs/lows are made can sometimes be profitable, but can sometimes wipe out your account. It is playing with fire. Other considerations are critical to maintaining "staying power", which many do not have, or choose to ignore.

What about adding to trades that are in the red? Many times, maybe most times, Classics are subsequently faced with price reversals, which can be Stop Hunts/liquidity creation moves only, or real reversals. To think that this unfortunate occurrence is not something you need to deal with is foolish. The question is how to deal with it. It is not recommended to add to a trade that is in the red until, at the least, PA is moving back in the direction of the trade in such a manner as to display proper bullish/bearish waves. This does not mean you have to wait for another Classic setup, but it does mean that PA waves such as we look for as a part of a Classic setup should be in existence to support an addition to the trade that is in the red.

Traders eventually learn and accept that they must work in a quandary. The quandary is that on the one hand a set of ground rules - an entry system - must exist and the trader must abide in those rules. And on the other hand, the trader must be flexible, because market pricing is not something that is of routines that are predictable. This is why we say that once in a Classic trade, for all that might subsequently happen, the trader should have a plan. The trader should, based on all that is happening and has happened leading up to the trade, know when to.....FOLD, HOLD or ADD. Such a call is a judgement call. It cannot be based only on a fixed rule, because any fixed rule the market can push price beyond, while intending the same trade as you are in.

People looking for fixed rules and absolutes do not belong in trading. These are not the things that make a good trader. Weathering the time in the market, learning how the market works, and learning how to work along with it are what make a good trader.

-tah

Hi! I am seeing from the picture PROBABILITY - SHORT. May I know what Indicator gives that details? Can you share the Indicator pls.

Thanks

GBPUSD:

Sonicers,

I am seeing a nice series of bullish waves. Not only that, but our template shows that notable bullish activity is involved in starting a push up from these past days of ranging, where most of the time and activity were below the whole number. And that is a PVSRA indication of bulls.

Too bad for the non-Sonicers that are indicator intensive and look to short it. Well, maybe I should not say that, knowing that we can never know how the MMs will move the price.

-tah

TAH what do you think about yen pairs USDJPY / EURJPY?

You have to formulate your own thinking based on the PDF documents. They do not explicitly spell out the conditions for entering trades and this is by design because this system wants you to fully learn how to trade and not just following a checklist blindly.

That said, it is clear that in one of the PDF that the Classic criteria are as follows:

1. Go to higher TF (1H, 4H, 1D) and look for a candle formation (hammer, etc). In addition to that, you also want to do PVSR analysis here looking how the volume increases or decreases at major inflection points
2. Once bias is established with the higher timeframe, you switch over to 15 mins
3. Now that you are in 15 mins timeframe, you need to look for long or short entry depending on your bias. If you want to go long, you need to look for L-H-HL wave and if you want to go short, you need to look for H-L-LH.
4. The first leg of the wave preferably crosses the dragon for a better entry
5. Dragon needs to also be pointing upwards or downwards depending on if you want to long or short
6. I added this last criteria that the dragon needs to either be above the trend if I'm going long or below the trend if I'm going short but this is just my own addition as I am really conservatives on my entry.

These are all in one of the PDFs linked on post #1 but you're welcome.