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  • Oct 30, 2014 8:19am Oct 30, 2014 8:19am
  •  jojofx
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2014 | 238 Posts
Does the NonLagMA repaint after candle close?
Greetings.
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 9:39am Oct 30, 2014 9:39am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
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Does the NonLagMA repaint after candle close? Greetings.
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no
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 9:58am Oct 30, 2014 9:58am
  •  dee50
  • Joined Jul 2010 | Status: Retired | 3,621 Posts
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{quote} How are you entering into trades if ignore H1?
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Sorry, I missed your post. I am not ignoring H1, if you look at the chart the vertical lines represent the hourly signals, red for short green for Long, I did not take trade number 2 (short) because price had closed back above a major S&R level, out of the picture is a HTF rising trend line, so I stayed out. trades number 5 & 6 I stayed out because a Triangle had formed and the price range at this point was only 7 - 8 pips, too risky also I was waiting for the Break out.

All the information is on the chart.

Hope it helps
Cut your Losers short and let your Winners run.
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:10am Oct 30, 2014 10:10am
  •  jojofx
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2014 | 238 Posts
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{quote} no
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Thanks for the reply.
Awesome and simple strategy, i started today to test it and so far so good: +4+4+4+4+4. Im using SL=16 but im gonna reduce it (10 or 12).
Is there a way to automatically trail the stop once it reach 4pips? I tried to set on mt4 trailing stop=40points but it wont work!
Happy trading!
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:12am Oct 30, 2014 10:12am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
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{quote} Thanks for the reply. Awesome and simple strategy, i started today to test it and so far so good: +4+4+4+4+4. Im using SL=16 but im gonna reduce it (10 or 12). Is there a way to automatically trail the stop once it reach 4pips? I tried to set on mt4 trailing stop=40points but it wont work! Happy trading!
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wheelbarrel EA, it allows trailing stop
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:13am Oct 30, 2014 10:13am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
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{quote} Sorry, I missed your post. I am not ignoring H1, if you look at the chart the vertical lines represent the hourly signals, red for short green for Long, I did not take trade number 2 (short) because price had closed back above a major S&R level, out of the picture is a HTF rising trend line, so I stayed out. trades number 5 & 6 I stayed out because a Triangle had formed and the price range at this point was only 7 - 8 pips, too risky also I was waiting for the Break out. All the information is on the chart. Hope it helps
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Ty doing the same here- if not far from pivot or s/r level -not taking the trade.
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:20am Oct 30, 2014 10:20am
  •  jojofx
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2014 | 238 Posts
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{quote} wheelbarrel EA, it allows trailing stop
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Appreciated it man but since i already use an EA for auto SL and TP it doesn't allow me to use one more EA!
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:26am Oct 30, 2014 10:26am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
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{quote} Appreciated it man but since i already use an EA for auto SL and TP it doesn't allow me to use one more EA!
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Indeed yours choice which one to use. But if no magic number is put for specif pair i think if you put wheelbarrel EA on new pair it will to trailing stops for all opened positions as it is done in the way to manage all opened positions
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:29am Oct 30, 2014 10:29am
  •  jojofx
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2014 | 238 Posts
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{quote} Indeed yours choice which one to use. But if no magic number is put for specif pair i think if you put wheelbarrel EA on new pair it will to trailing stops for all opened positions as it is done in the way to manage all opened positions
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Great!! Gonna try it right now, thanks again
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 10:49am Oct 30, 2014 10:49am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
Today GU results, due to range bounding and different candle formations today i did not see many trades:
1H trading. 1sl. (6 pips)
M30 trading 2tp
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2014 11:40am Oct 30, 2014 11:40am
  •  as002
  • | Joined Jul 2009 | Status: Member | 184 Posts
11/16 so far today

4/5 for GU

The trades taken 1 hour before Frankfurt open was a TOTAL disaster. 1/4 success.

My demo account did 7/11 today.
The same color criterion did not do well today. just 1/5 wins.



In total the success rate fell to 76.19%.



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  • Oct 30, 2014 11:56am Oct 30, 2014 11:56am
  •  jojofx
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2014 | 238 Posts
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11/16 so far today 4/5 for GU The trades taken 1 hour before Frankfurt open was a TOTAL disaster. 1/4 success. My demo account did 7/11 today. The same color criterion did not do well today. just 1/5 wins. In total the success rate fell to 76.19%. the screenshots {image} {image}
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Don't you use the "displace=-1" ??
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 5:43am Oct 31, 2014 5:43am
  •  Drewas
  • Joined Mar 2011 | Status: Member | 484 Posts
Nice system thanks for posting.

I may have missed something or just not understood the system fully but how do you avoid the current hourly candle on GBPUSD?

According to the rules we enter the same way as the previous nonlag bar which would have given us a buy where price has gone down?

Do we just accept this as a loss or is there a filter that we should use?
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We're all just one trade away from humility.
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 5:58am Oct 31, 2014 5:58am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,451 Posts
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Nice system thanks for posting. I may have missed something or just not understood the system fully but how do you avoid the current hourly candle on GBPUSD? According to the rules we enter the same way as the previous nonlag bar which would have given us a buy where price has gone down? Do we just accept this as a loss or is there a filter that we should use? {image}
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No system/method is 100% right ... so just accept the loss and look for the next signal.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 6:08am Oct 31, 2014 6:08am
  •  Topro
  • | Joined Sep 2014 | Status: Member | 21 Posts
Does anyone can explain exactly when the position is opened or before or after closing 1H candle?

ComoxBluejay:
"I scalp using a one hour time frame & trade at the top of each hour."

ComoxBluejay:
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I think that this system cannot be backtested unless using a trade simulator. Because the entry is upon a NonlagMA bar that is just opening. At hindsight we do not know what color it was at the open, we only see what color it was at the close. So, let us see what forward test will show.

You have completely missed the point.....you trade in the direction indicated by the last bar painted.
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 8:11am Oct 31, 2014 8:11am
  •  chanx
  • | Joined Feb 2012 | Status: Member | 72 Posts
Non LAG MA not appearing for the current bar denoted by the blue dotted vertical bar .. Is it any problem from my side.?

And also it seems the Non-LAG MA HIST repaints .. last closed bar changed to red from green after candle close when the current bar was falling down for few pips.

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  •  opoyman
  • | Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Member | 9 Posts
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Non LAG MA not appearing for the current bar denoted by the blue dotted vertical bar .. Is it any problem from my side.? And also it seems the Non-LAG MA HIST repaints .. last closed bar changed to red from green after candle close when the current bar was falling down for few pips. Thanks... {image}
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yes the last bar may repaint, but its not supposed to be closed yet since its repainting.. the -1 displacement on your nonlagma setting will cause your current candle stick & indicator not to align.
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 8:40am Oct 31, 2014 8:40am
  •  orangutangas
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 273 Posts
ATTENTION GUYS!
Today half of the day tried to make an EA for this system. And what can i say? System is not working, at least backtesting.
Starting 2014 till today we have approx 1600 trades if we trade each hour.If we put trade by the colour of the non_lag_Ma (if previous bar is higher than the 2 bars before than it is green) we get 96% of winining trades using SL of more than 100 pips. So overall our profit curve will be negative.
If we do sync with M15 or M30 or with both we get postive trades also at around 96% level, but profit curve will be negative.
So i tried to improve that. If there are a doji in M30 or M15 and if M5 or M15 gives an oposite candle with the candle body more than 7-18pips(i was changing it) i also got negative profit. Than profitable trades are only around 80% We actually lower our profitable trades as sometimes we get spikes in price action in opposite direction than our trade during an hour.
Without adjusted stop loss i have 1485 winning and 60 trades losing, with adjsuted stop loss as wrote above i have 1180 trades positive and 360 negative. That negative trades increase due to these price actions as we see different price movement during hour. And it is not only during the hours when news are released, it is random.
Also tried to exit the trade if next H1 or M30 candle has different Non_lag_ma colour. Results are the same - we are losing with profit factor of 80%.
Another thing is that tried to put MA20 and MA50, to trade with trend. Results were better, there are less noise. But again very low TP vs SL gives as negative results...

Any other guys advice when you got better results? I can test it and see how it goes..
Would be nice if someone will reply whose trades were working during July 28th, Sep 11th, March 12-13th and they have not caught any big loss during these days. If they caught, well then that system won't work in long term

Cheers,
Orangutangas
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 8:51am Oct 31, 2014 8:51am
  •  chanx
  • | Joined Feb 2012 | Status: Member | 72 Posts
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{quote} yes the last bar may repaint, but its not supposed to be closed yet since its repainting.. the -1 displacement on your nonlagma setting will cause your current candle stick & indicator not to align.
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So the displacement will set the no lag hist bar to move 1 step back from the current candlestick....
 
 
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  • Oct 31, 2014 8:57am Oct 31, 2014 8:57am
  •  opoyman
  • | Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Member | 9 Posts
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{quote} So the displacement will set the no lag hist bar to move 1 step back from the current candlestick....
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