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  • #77,081
  • Oct 27, 2014 8:54pm Oct 27, 2014 8:54pm
Classic aud/usd long.... Entered a bit late , didn't see the wave already formed below!
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  • #77,082
  • Oct 27, 2014 9:31pm Oct 27, 2014 9:31pm
Quoting forexworld12
Classic aud/usd long.... Entered a bit late , didn't see the wave already formed below! {image}
forexworld12,

Please edit your post above to show the entire chart, including the closed trade PL label, as is our custom here so to provide complete information to those studying posted trades.

-tah
  • #77,083
  • Oct 27, 2014 10:37pm Oct 27, 2014 10:37pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} forexworld12, Please edit your post above to show the entire chart, including the closed trade PL label, as is our custom here so to provide complete information to those studying posted trades. -tah
Hi tah, the closed PL label is gone now when i reopened my mt4, how do i reshow it ? .. from next time I will post full chart!
  • #77,084
  • Oct 27, 2014 11:49pm Oct 27, 2014 11:49pm
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Long Trade Open: M15 Classic re-entry, pre-LS. On the heels of closing my short trade, for which I had greater expectations and a chance to exit for greater profits, I am now seeing the potential for a bull run. It might only go back to previous highs. There is no telling how the price will move. Since the week opened the MMs have put the price back below the whole number and have kept it there (PVSRA = bulls?). So far today the Asian session MMs have been continuing the move up from the lows of yesterday. So, I count this current...
Sorry but your analyses are not based on PVSRA!

PVSRA = Price Volume Support Resistance Analysis.

All analysis I see in your posts is only whole,half etc levels.
  • #77,085
  • Oct 28, 2014 12:42am Oct 28, 2014 12:42am
hi guys
im new in this sonic system , it is consider a classic entry ?
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  • #77,086
  • Oct 28, 2014 3:11am Oct 28, 2014 3:11am
Quoting cavenlee92
hi guys im new in this sonic system , it is consider a classic entry ? {image}
Yea is a classic Price wave L-H-HL-HH and dragon pointing 2 o'clock. but becareful as it is before Lo.
Normally classic before Lo is risky.

Quoting tomx
{quote} Sorry but your analyses are not based on PVSRA! PVSRA = Price Volume Support Resistance Analysis. All analysis I see in your posts is only whole,half etc levels.
whole & half number does have some kind of S&R in the sense that price often turn the other where when hitting those lines..
Still a valid PVSRA if you have read #1 and understand everything.

-AdrianC.
  • #77,087
  • Edited 3:48am Oct 28, 2014 3:37am | Edited 3:48am
EURUSD - Classic Short open (To me looks like classic)
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-AdrianC.
  • #77,088
  • Edited 5:41am Oct 28, 2014 4:02am | Edited 5:41am
Classic entry for shorting GU. Migth be worth opening trade on next candle if it closes below dragon. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Ohh well.
Stay green! FN
  • #77,089
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:11am Oct 28, 2014 5:11am
Quoting AdrianC
{quote} Yea is a classic Price wave L-H-HL-HH and dragon pointing 2 o'clock. but becareful as it is before Lo. Normally classic before Lo is risky. {quote} whole & half number does have some kind of S&R in the sense that price often turn the other where when hitting those lines.. Still a valid PVSRA if you have read #1 and understand everything. -AdrianC.
thanks for the reply adrian
by the way wat is Lo ??
  • #77,090
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:37am Oct 28, 2014 5:37am
Quoting cavenlee92
{quote} thanks for the reply adrian by the way wat is Lo ??
London Open.

Please read the documents on Post #1
  • #77,091
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:43am Oct 28, 2014 5:43am
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Long Trade Open: M15 Classic re-entry, pre-LS. On the heels of closing my short trade, for which I had greater expectations and a chance to exit for greater profits, I am now seeing the potential for a bull run. It might only go back to previous highs. There is no telling how the price will move. Since the week opened the MMs have put the price back below the whole number and have kept it there (PVSRA = bulls?). So far today the Asian session MMs have been continuing the move up from the lows of yesterday. So, I count this current move down...
USDJPY Long Trade Closed:

Closed for loss of 12.9 pips average, 38.8 pips total.
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  • #77,092
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:45am Oct 28, 2014 5:45am
USDCAD Short Trade Open/Close:

Closed for gain of 26.6 pips average, 53.3 pips total.
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  • #77,093
  • Edited 6:22am Oct 28, 2014 6:05am | Edited 6:22am
Quoting tomx
{quote} Sorry but your analyses are not based on PVSRA! PVSRA = Price Volume Support Resistance Analysis. All analysis I see in your posts is only whole,half etc levels.
tomx,

Gee, and what do you think whole and half number areas are? .....only the most important S&R levels known to man! And when price most of the time (and therefore volume, too) is spent below or above one of them, it is significant.

You appear not to be a Sonicer by virtue of your posting history. I suggest you either become one that is better informed, or restrict your postings to elsewhere.

-tah
  • #77,094
  • Edited 6:57am Oct 28, 2014 6:37am | Edited 6:57am
USDJPY Long Trade Open:

M1 Classic entry.

I am still seeing this as bullish. My previous long trade was stopped out by yet another whacking below the whole number. I see that as confirmation of bulls, so I have ventured to restart the long trade on M1.

No TP/SL at this time. In fact, I now have a suspicion that the MMs might drive up all JPY pairs ahead of the next JPY releases, or maybe just hold them up while they close out longs and rebuild short. Never can know how they will manipulate price, though.
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  • #77,095
  • Oct 28, 2014 6:41am Oct 28, 2014 6:41am
Quoting tomx
{quote} Sorry but your analyses are not based on PVSRA! PVSRA = Price Volume Support Resistance Analysis. All analysis I see in your posts is only whole,half etc levels.
Except these round numbers are where the confluence usually happens. Yes you can draw extra S&R lines but Sonic R is based mainly on the Classic Entry utilizing the Dragon and Trend (with PVSR only as supporting evidence), we probably don't need to get extremely granular with the SR because more often than not, these round numbers/half numbers/etc are sufficient to SUPPLEMENT our entry/exit point.
  • #77,096
  • Oct 28, 2014 7:36am Oct 28, 2014 7:36am
Quoting Nestledrink
{quote} Except these round numbers are where the confluence usually happens. Yes you can draw extra S&R lines but Sonic R is based mainly on the Classic Entry utilizing the Dragon and Trend (with PVSR only as supporting evidence), we probably don't need to get extremely granular with the SR because more often than not, these round numbers/half numbers/etc are sufficient to SUPPLEMENT our entry/exit point.
Nestledrink,

A very level headed and kind reply.
  • #77,097
  • Oct 28, 2014 7:44am Oct 28, 2014 7:44am
EURUSD Short Trade Open:

M1 Classic entry.

The trend is down on larger TFs. Today, the MMs whipped the price up above a half number (PVSRA = bears). To me, PA looks like Pump & Dump. Time will tell. No TP/SL at this time.
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  • #77,098
  • Oct 28, 2014 7:54am Oct 28, 2014 7:54am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Nestledrink, A very level headed and kind reply.
Thanks!

There are many trading methods and I feel that the Sonic R is NOT a PVSR based method as the Classic Entry is the bread and butter of this system. Since the SR level is just a complement to the Classic Entry, adding a real SR level is just additional work for little benefits when more often than not, the whole number/half number/etc levels are roughly where the confluence is.

I have a friend who purely trade on SR levels and for his kind of system, he probably DOES want to get very granular instead of just using the whole number/half number/etc as in Sonic R.
  • #77,099
  • Edited 8:49am Oct 28, 2014 8:11am | Edited 8:49am
Quoting Nestledrink
{quote} Thanks! There are many trading methods and I feel that the Sonic R is NOT a PVSR based method as the Classic Entry is the bread and butter of this system. Since the SR level is just a complement to the Classic Entry, adding a real SR level is just additional work for little benefits when more often than not, the whole number/half number/etc levels are roughly where the confluence is. I have a friend who purely trade on SR levels and for his kind of system, he probably DOES want to get very granular instead of just using the whole number/half...
Nestledrink,

Using your terminology, I would say that Sonic R. is not a PVSRA, granularity based, method, but that it is a "plus" to the setup qualification to include pre-setup PVSRA as regards whole or half levels, and even sometimes quarter levels. Strip away this type PVSRA and you lose the edge it sometimes gives. That's all. If folks find it confusing, they should disregard it and just base their analysis of Classic setups per the straightforward "Rules of Engagement".

There are times when price vacillates either side of some important S&R, such that it is difficult or impossible to see a clear PVSRA bull or bear indication. But, that does not invalidate the analysis method. Like everything in trading, sometimes things are clear and sometimes they are not. It is the nature of the beast.


Sonicers,

We should know when to trade, when we should not, and we should have the discipline to abide in that. And PVSRA can be used, or not, at the discretion of the trader. It is not the "Holy Grail". Nothing is. It is best we keep things simple - elegantly simple and effective - so, if you find that PVSRA helps, use it accordingly. If you do not, do not use it.
  • #77,100
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:29am Oct 28, 2014 8:29am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Nestledrink, Using your terminology, I would say that Sonic R. is not a PVSRA, granularity based, method, but that it is a "plus" to the setup qualification to include pre-setup PVSRA as regards whole or half levels, and even sometimes quarter levels.
Sure yes. My point is that the current whole/half/quarter levels are "sufficient" to complement the Classic Entry for Sonic R!
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