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  • #8,661
  • Sep 19, 2014 4:19pm Sep 19, 2014 4:19pm
Quoting Robertk
{quote} I thought the whole goal of this topic was exactly to give people concepts / get them familiar with it, in order to create that correct synergy between components for themselves. Its their job to put it together? Werent you the person that always said that secrets should remain hidden, or they will be dissolved by the market? No offense but if you are giving away such thing as a key system it would seriously be an insult to many of the hard workers in here.
Insult? I very much doubt it. EURUSDD's avid followers will relish any new insights and will work very hard to piece together another little bit of the jigsaw. The way he releases the knowledge it's only for those that are prepared to put in the effort that will get any sort of benefit. I know I've not fully put it all together yet but I'm making progress and it's making me think very differently to before.
*** Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. ***
  • #8,662
  • Sep 19, 2014 4:44pm Sep 19, 2014 4:44pm
Quoting Freefox
{quote} Insult? I very much doubt it. EURUSDD's avid followers will relish any new insights and will work very hard to piece together another little bit of the jigsaw. The way he releases the knowledge it's only for those that are prepared to put in the effort that will get any sort of benefit. I know I've not fully put it all together yet but I'm making progress and it's making me think very differently to before.
No, dont get me wrong. I much appreciate the concepts and mind triggers/light bulb moments he shared in the past with all of us. I simply interpret things as "putting all the pieces together", "key-system" as an insult. A system is not a blueprint, neither a concept, a complete system giveaway is candy for the lazy ones.
  • #8,663
  • Sep 19, 2014 5:36pm Sep 19, 2014 5:36pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} TZ is essentially how you would draw a support/resistence line in its basic form. But what you are looking for are the spaces. The absence of price bars to the left or right of the most extreme price. Most people think that is Top/Bottom.....giving Resistence/Support. But here's another magic nugget: both a Top and a Bottom always has space to the left. I got this from a trading book I can't recall the title to, but I read this last couple of years and that was gold. I remembered it instantly as Eurusdd gave us his Transient Price Theory....
Must have missed this one, excellent explanation!

Easiest way for me to identify the TZ is find the RZ= Re current first. Recurrent is where the trade will hit or come back to. Best of all it does not have to be perfect, though, I have narrowed it down to a specific price (secret).

"PROBABILITY" has opened a world of new and interesting ideas.

RobertK, yes, there are NO free lunches but a lot of screen time, and hard work, I hope all here, get it.

EDIT: Lazy people will not understand this concept without work. So no worries.
  • #8,664
  • Edited 7:08pm Sep 19, 2014 6:56pm | Edited 7:08pm
Quoting ephisi
{quote} youre a good teacher. eurusdd taught and you learned very well
Yes, Vlady is great. I like his post, and some of you too ....

Quoting Baillie
I shouldn't do this, but, I do not use any of the indicators for identifying TZ Zones, I stay on the 4hr, 1hr, 30 min charts zoomed out a bit; to get a better picture. Look to your left for "clusters of prices" 2-3 bars or more, pick a price closest to 00 or 05 within those "clusters" draw a horizontal line to your right. You now have a very good target. The good ones are those where price pulls away, up or down cleanly, without too much hesitation. Let price move away with "probability" in mind. Example: (1) prices at cluster, (2) prices move up,...
Thanks mate. I like this post.
Similarity can change your life !
  • #8,665
  • Sep 19, 2014 7:24pm Sep 19, 2014 7:24pm
Quoting orid
remember these words of wisdom Regards Orid peter {image}
Ah this one drove me nuts back then. Almost everyone was "seeing" it less me. I was given lots of hints by the really smart people here and still could not "see". The "moment" did come in the end and boy did it felt good!
I want more brain power!
  • #8,666
  • Sep 19, 2014 7:31pm Sep 19, 2014 7:31pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} TZ is essentially how you would draw a support/resistence line in its basic form. But what you are looking for are the spaces. The absence of price bars to the left or right of the most extreme price. Most people think that is Top/Bottom.....giving Resistence/Support. But here's another magic nugget: both a Top and a Bottom always has space to the left. I got this from a trading book I can't recall the title to, but I read this last couple of years and that was gold. I remembered it instantly as Eurusdd gave us his Transient Price Theory....
That put another piece in the right place.
I want more brain power!
  • #8,667
  • Sep 19, 2014 7:48pm Sep 19, 2014 7:48pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote}2- My charts (the ones used for this strategy) have 0 indicators! Yes ZERO. They are as clean as a chart can get.
If you're not using any indicators for your strategy, how do you calculate your probabilities?
  • #8,668
  • Sep 19, 2014 9:58pm Sep 19, 2014 9:58pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} If you're not using any indicators for your strategy, how do you calculate your probabilities?
This is what I was wondering....

If it's not an indicator, what calculates the probabilities?? Is it an estimation or an external program?

I know eurusdd has some kind of software.

MM
  • #8,669
  • Sep 19, 2014 9:59pm Sep 19, 2014 9:59pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} If you're not using any indicators for your strategy, how do you calculate your probabilities?
lets assume probability of current bar closing above previous bar is between 49 and 50 percent; the same applies for closing below previous candle. start from this concept.
As Above, So Below
  • #8,670
  • Sep 19, 2014 10:17pm Sep 19, 2014 10:17pm
Quoting tashkent
{quote} lets assume probability of current bar closing above previous bar is between 49 and 50 percent; the same applies for closing below previous candle. start from this concept.
Seems that you are assuming that the market is random. It cannot be random.
  • #8,671
  • Sep 19, 2014 10:39pm Sep 19, 2014 10:39pm
Quoting Eurusdd
All charts have self-similarity properties and this feature is what I have been trying to use to uncover the market. And it is possible but I cannot share this one. However, what I have seen is this: From the 1min chart to the 4hr chart, it is possible to construct a similarity setup that shows that "there is only one path - maybe pre-determined but chaotic that price is following. Using this technique it is possible to know exactly when a given trend will change and at what point. Infact, trends and their turning points are determined precisely....
Thank you very much eurusdd. as i said earlier today. confidence isnt equal to 100percent probability or certainty. There is nothing like 100percent certainty. Deception component. i like that.

EURUSDD i am begining to see this post and how it plays out. just as i was able to predict todays down move. i am now seeing things i didnt see before. all the dots in your teachings are connecting. i have learnt how to get precise targets and turns. i have also learnt how long it will take to go above or below a certain price level. what im trying to calculate now are the probabilitys.

i have been on this for 4 days in a stretch. the dots are connecting. with a little filters i was able to see the scalps that have highest probability of 10pips profit or more and also yesterday asia, i saw the turn signals at 1.2930 but wasnt sure. i scalped it and took 10pip profit.

everything you have said in the past now makes sense.
i am predicting that we will see 1.2760ish latest Monday the 29th of september


THE KEY IS SIMILARITY ON THE 1MIN TO THE 4HR TIMEFRAME
1.2760 LATEST 29TH SEPT 2014
  • #8,672
  • Sep 19, 2014 10:53pm Sep 19, 2014 10:53pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} Hey Jay, I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and posts. I think I've replicated the "map" of what you're seeing. I only use FreeFox's Transient_Zone's application. I have the h value and can confirm that it matches your predicted expiry at Monday afternoon session. I have mine as 4PM. For everyone else: What I can say is that there is still a few ways to use the information to hand. From what I've seen of this "map", I would describe this as potentially further consolidation... just on a taller price range, which includes the projected...
I Agree with you mate. its possible we see 1.2999 but it cant call it a reversal at leats not yet. But i am seeing 1.2750 ish before 1.2999.
as a matter of fact as it stands we should have a gap down on market open asia.
1.2999 is possible its all probability. what i am not comfortable with was that fxjay telling everyone shorts wont work. as we have seen. we moved 100pips since the last swing. why wouldnt i take 100 or 200pips profit short before taking long towards 1.2999?
  • #8,673
  • Sep 19, 2014 10:56pm Sep 19, 2014 10:56pm
Quoting BlackStack
{quote} Seems that you are assuming that the market is random. It cannot be random.
"Prediction" requires "room" Given current price is X, we are unable to determine at the next tick if price will be at X+1 or X-1. But we have a price value of Y and the time factor of (H). Working from this we should be able to estimate the probabilities. The failure rate in this is suggested to be at 3%. Therefore the apparent randomness is "clutter", the initial assumptions of "50-50" a means to an end...thus the market is still arguably predictable. I hope I'm right, someone kindly send me a PM if I am. I won't tell.
I want more brain power!
  • #8,674
  • Sep 19, 2014 10:57pm Sep 19, 2014 10:57pm
Quoting Eurusdd
There seems to be a well-defined path price is following! That is it!!! Now, this is becoming a revelation.

i see this precise path form the 1min to monthly time frame. Its like a Roadmap, a flexible oil and gas pipeline, an adjustable conduit that adjusts its shape depending on the forces its experiencein.

Awesome
  • #8,675
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:04pm Sep 19, 2014 11:04pm
Quoting Eurusdd
Some turning points are inflexion-points. So even though the times these points occur can be determined precisely, if the point turns out to be an inflexion point then price may still continue in the previous direction till the next turning point which we can also determine precisely!!!! Inflexion points are the only black-holes in this strategy. However, using other methods it is possible to nail them down.
For the hard workers, eurusdd has just revaled a few more secrets. you need to crack this.

Now i believe youre a PHD student of mathemathics.
Guys all i see is Mathemathics, Physics, economics, finance etc
Mathematics is the key skill becos we are talking about stochastic processes. you will understan inflextion from maths. The market is not random. thank God i did some serios engineriing maths in univ. The laws of physics govern the movement of price like a fluid thru a pipeline. economics covers demand and supply. finance covers money management.

i could go on and on to fill a book

Thanks eurusdd. hard work pays. 4days with little food 1 shower a day, researching this
  • #8,676
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:08pm Sep 19, 2014 11:08pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Hey Tashkent, I don't expect the win rate to remain 100% it should eventually drop to 90% since I'm taking 90%+ probability trades. So the concept that I am using in picking trades should apply also to my winning rate. When are these losses going to show up, I can't tell, but I sure do hope that it won't be in the eur/usd call because I'm certain people here will make sure to rub it in my face and forget all about the other 84 (now 90) profitable calls The most important thing in this system is money management specially that I don't...
well said, now i understand your strategy.
  • #8,677
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:15pm Sep 19, 2014 11:15pm
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} "Prediction" requires "room" Given current price is X, we are unable to determine at the next tick if price will be at X+1 or X-1. But we have a price value of Y and the time factor of (H). Working from this we should be able to estimate the probabilities. The failure rate in this is suggested to be at 3%. Therefore the apparent randomness is "clutter", the initial assumptions of "50-50" a means to an end...thus the market is still arguably predictable. I hope I'm right, someone kindly send me a PM if I am. I won't tell.
i think youre right cos its working for me
  • #8,678
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:35pm Sep 19, 2014 11:35pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} TZ is essentially how you would draw a support/resistence line in its basic form. But what you are looking for are the spaces. The absence of price bars to the left or right of the most extreme price. Most people think that is Top/Bottom.....giving Resistence/Support. But here's another magic nugget: both a Top and a Bottom always has space to the left. I got this from a trading book I can't recall the title to, but I read this last couple of years and that was gold. I remembered it instantly as Eurusdd gave us his Transient Price Theory....
You are right mate. This is a good post too, still trying to get it. Thanks a lot.
  • #8,679
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:47pm Sep 19, 2014 11:47pm
Quoting LITEchild
It's still working...100+pips . {image}
good job, you got feeling of market heartbeat rating!
  • #8,680
  • Sep 19, 2014 11:51pm Sep 19, 2014 11:51pm
Quoting elen21168
{quote} This is what i got on ZzBB. It will swing today, latest on Monday ... and will down next week. For today, my Sell target today is around 1.2838. There is unfinished job at zone 2836-2840. It will go up again today/Monday to reach upper BB, then it will be a long down next week ... {image}
I look again at my trading plan on last Friday. My first (2874) and second (2838) target were hit, this is great. Although i was confused of its action, and lost some pips. But overall i am win, using small lots for testing what i understand from this concept.

EU 0.1 lot sell +23 pips
EU 0.1 lot sell +7 pips
EU 0.1 lot buy -12 pips (it was 10 pips SL + spread)
EU 0.05 lot sell +2 pips
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Total +20 pips

And got +12pips on NU.

For me this is a good result during my learning time. Thanks to Eurussd for the great concept

For Monday, i think it will go up a little, but i am not so sure it will hit my zone 2918 - 2925 (my image on last Friday). I am sure it will be hit some day, but may be not on next Monday, or totally will be transient , if it is not touched in next week. Highest on Monday may be around : 2859 - 2870, and it will go down again ......
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