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  • #925,061
  • Sep 18, 2014 9:51am Sep 18, 2014 9:51am
Quoting hathor
{quote} The pair is streched like a spiral/spring. It is here, because of tremendous force (~"manipulation"). As soon as it tries to balance the anomaly, it will kick back in a flash. Question is what is the truth about fundamental and geopolitical facts. And I have a felling none of us knows the reality. So anything can happen at any time.

Actually, there is no manipulation, euro is going down for a simple reason: interest rate.

When Super Mario cut the rate the swap is doing the rest, holding the euro now is very expensive.

actually there are getting a very small swap every day. If you sold at 1.3500 now you are in a risk free position that you can hold for long time.


If you buying you loose money every day, if you are selling actually you gain something (very little) but better something that nothing


All the people that sold at higher price, they don't care about 100 o even 200 pips... If they have got 500-600 pips in the green...
Buy at the Low, Sell at the High You make money by waiting not by trading.
  • #925,062
  • Sep 18, 2014 9:53am Sep 18, 2014 9:53am
Quoting deeZG
{quote} any chance you point me to some resource describing how you define levels? or is it some discretionary system? thanks PS. long at the moment because all i can see is bears still optimistic (in other words, i don't read green candles as profit taking at the moment) but enough bulls to prevent serious break through previous low. all of that happening at this position (important level, no significant pullback for a while...) tells me we're in 'last-fools-game'...we'll see what turns out of it...
this week for some 2961 is important. i know they use it so i use it. others like 2946 34 04 2802 are important. last week bulls closed the week above 2946.. so it has to be noted since the week before was below.. being close makes this week a possible wtf.. it also has a big one at 2802.. along with usd crossing a like candle.. add in the e/chf and i want to sell higher on the range. then the smaller tf. since a bounce on a wtf may be a entire candle or more. after, the closes have to be considered..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #925,063
  • Sep 18, 2014 9:53am Sep 18, 2014 9:53am
Quoting hathor
{quote} The pair is streched like a spiral/spring. It is here, because of tremendous force (~"manipulation"). As soon as it tries to balance the anomaly, it will kick back in a flash. Question is what is the truth about fundamental and geopolitical facts. And I have a felling none of us knows the reality. So anything can happen at any time.
I mean we never know if it's good price or not. We never know we should be here, or somewhere else. We are in the middle of a global show/circus, and the ticket to the ride is our account.

So it's better to stick to Your chart.
f(z)=z2+c
  • #925,064
  • Sep 18, 2014 9:59am Sep 18, 2014 9:59am
Quoting vaclarush
{quote} I understand, actually the idea is as old as Wycoff. I've learned the VSA method.
ok, so why avoiding the question about using manipulated info, in the risk of real money? that was all i was asking. highlighted in blue
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #925,065
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:02am Sep 18, 2014 10:02am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} dono, i missed a reload. i was greedy. waiting for 2926 or 51 to s. maybe next time
got one at 2927..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #925,066
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:02am Sep 18, 2014 10:02am
Quoting Imaywin
Once again if we are not already at 1.3300 it is because USD made its strongest rally in its history, now awaiting correction. USD/JPY near 109, when will it stop ???
Just be patient It's going to be beautiful when it retraces , will be sooner rather than later , bears will get a hurting and I will take profit
  • #925,067
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:03am Sep 18, 2014 10:03am
Quoting kewell
Full sell and drop now !??
Hope so..
let's see what will happen..
i'm tired to see this move
Forex as Leverage
  • #925,068
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:03am Sep 18, 2014 10:03am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} this week for some 2961 is important. i know they use it so i use it. others like 2946 34 04 2802 are important. last week bulls closed the week above 2946.. so it has to be noted since the week before was below.. being close makes this week a possible wtf.. it also has a big one at 2802.. along with usd crossing a like candle.. add in the e/chf and i want to sell higher on the range. then the smaller tf. since a bounce on a wtf may be a entire candle or more. after, the closes have to be considered..
not gonna pretend i understand the explanation...i pretty much don't...
sounds to me like you're looking for a 'pain in the charts' and do evaluation of who can stand what amount of pain?
big numbers are our friends...
  • #925,069
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:05am Sep 18, 2014 10:05am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} ok, so why avoiding the question about using manipulated info, in the risk of real money? that was all i was asking. highlighted in blue
Maybe I don't understand the question, the manipulation I'm talking about is used to confuse the herd and make the big players more money. The volume/price data is genuine but configured in a way that misleads. Read "Master the Markets" by Tom Williams.
  • #925,070
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:06am Sep 18, 2014 10:06am
Quoting deeZG
{quote} not gonna pretend i understand the explanation...i pretty much don't... sounds to me like you're looking for a 'pain in the charts' and do evaluation of who can stand what amount of pain?
simple closes... with trend considered..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #925,071
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:09am Sep 18, 2014 10:09am
Quoting vaclarush
{quote} Maybe I don't understand the question, the manipulation I'm talking about is used to confuse the herd and make the big players more money. The volume/price data is genuine but configured in a way that misleads. Read "Master the Markets" by Tom Williams.
let me jump into the discussion, just to add a bit of oil into fire

lets assume market is manipulated. in that case, what would you say:

1) how many manipulators are out there? (just an order of magnitude)
2) in what relation do you think they are? (competition or cooperation)
3) who are they? (what type of entities)
big numbers are our friends...
  • #925,072
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:10am Sep 18, 2014 10:10am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} simple closes... with trend considered..
yes, then i think i understand the basic idea.
thanks!
big numbers are our friends...
  • #925,073
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:11am Sep 18, 2014 10:11am
Quoting vaclarush
{quote} Maybe I don't understand the question, the manipulation I'm talking about is used to confuse the herd and make the big players more money. The volume/price data is genuine but configured in a way that misleads. Read "Master the Markets" by Tom Williams.
no time atm.. debating over closing a trade that gives a doubled account if i close it now, or not
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #925,074
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:13am Sep 18, 2014 10:13am
Quoting deeZG
{quote} let me jump into the discussion, just to add a bit of oil into fire lets assume market is manipulated. in that case, what would you say: 1) how many manipulators are out there? (just an order of magnitude) 2) in what relation do you think they are? (competition or cooperation) 3) who are they? (what type of entities)
1, 2, 3 can be answered together. They are the central banks and the institutional traders they use to move billions to affect the forex market. This means they are in cooperation for the most part.
  • #925,075
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:16am Sep 18, 2014 10:16am
Dollar traded at lower against almost all G10 peers.
The market is looking forward to the referendum in Scotland.
The market positioning is also very much in favor of a "no".
This means that the market reaction to a "no" would be much smaller than the reaction to "yes", that would probably be dramatic.
  • #925,076
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:18am Sep 18, 2014 10:18am
Quoting bewayopa
Dollar traded at lower against almost all G10 peers. The market is looking forward to the referendum in Scotland. The market positioning is also very much in favor of a "no". This means that the market reaction to a "no" would be much smaller than the reaction to "yes", that would probably be dramatic.
Yea, it will likely be no, that's looking like the opportunity they'll use to tank it, we'll probably hover above 1.2890 until then.
  • #925,077
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:22am Sep 18, 2014 10:22am
Quoting vaclarush
{quote} I understand there's no central exchange to track all volume in the fx market. However, when the big players manipulate the market excessive volume, or the absense of volume can tell us their intentions when taking price action into consideration as well. I use a broker with an interbank feed, like most mt4 brokers have. We're looking for large differences in volume over time, not only one instance and not just minute changes so the vol info doesn't have to be exactly precise. Most retail traders have discounted the importance of volume...
but you still have not said what you are using as volume, to know that excessive volume was taking place...
  • #925,078
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:34am Sep 18, 2014 10:34am
Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} but you still have not said what you are using as volume, to know that excessive volume was taking place...
In this post I stated that I use the normal interbank feed provided by most mt4 brokers. In the past I've used esignal's composite feed which is suppose to be more accurate, but upon comparison to most mt4 brokers it was almost identical.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...54#post7747554
  • #925,079
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:37am Sep 18, 2014 10:37am
In terms of quality trading, today was a bit choppy and not so many good and clear entries there. I had exactly 2.

One could expect that because of price level pair is bouncing right now.

It may try one push yet upside but 30/35 should cap it unless eurgbp breaks clearly through above todays range.
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #925,080
  • Sep 18, 2014 10:42am Sep 18, 2014 10:42am
Quoting Z3iz3i
In terms of quality trading, today was a bit choppy and not so many good and clear entries there. I had exactly 2. One could expect that because of price level pair is bouncing right now. It may try one push yet upside but 30/35 should cap it unless eurgbp breaks clearly through above todays range.
I'm playing long side against 0.7880. It may keep pressure untill pound finds the top (maybe around 1.6460/80), but as long as bearish spikes will get faded back above 0.7880 - its bullish.
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