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  • #5,401
  • Sep 13, 2014 1:33pm Sep 13, 2014 1:33pm
Quoting Smknyc
Core split 3/4 AUDUSD - NZDUSD - USDCHF GBPUSD - USDCAD - USDJPY - EURUSD AUD SPLIT 2/5 AUDCAD - AUDCHF - AUDJPY - AUDNZD - AUDUSD EURAUD - GBPAUD CAD SPLIT 3/4 USDCAD - NZDCAD - GBPCAD - EURCAD CADJPY - CADCHF - AUDCAD CHF SPLIT 2/5 CHFJPY - EURCHF AUDCHF - CADCHF - NZDCHF - USDCHF - GBPCHF NZD SPLIT 3/4 EURNZD - GBPNZD - NZDCAD NZDCHF - NZDUSD - AUDNZD - NZDJPY HAPPY PIPS EVERYONE. Paul
sam what is this?
  • #5,402
  • Sep 13, 2014 2:37pm Sep 13, 2014 2:37pm
Quoting shum
{quote} sam what is this?

Create 9 profiles of 7 charts each for several different time frames for each profile:
The first 7 profiles of 7 are the same groups used in the Basket Writer EA.

Profile #1 AUD = AUDCAD,AUDCHF,AUDJPY,AUDNZD,AUDUSD,EURAUD,GBPAUD
Profile #2 CAD = CADCHF,CADJPY,AUDCAD,EURCAD,GBPCAD,NZDCAD,USDCAD
Profile #3 CHF = CHFJPY,AUDCHF,CADCHF,EURCHF,GBPCHF,NZDCHF,USDCHF
Profile #4 EUR = EURAUD,EURCAD,EURCHF,EURGBP,EURJPY,EURNZD,EURUSD
Profile #5 GBP = GBPAUD,GBPCAD,GBPCHF,GBPJPY,GBPNZD,GBPUSD,EURGBP
Profile #6 NZD = NZDCAD,NZDCHF,NZDJPY,NZDUSD,AUDNZD,EURNZD,GBPNZD
Profile #7 USD = USDCAD,USDCHF,USDJPY,AUDUSD,EURUSD,GBPUSD,NZDUSD
Profile #8 JPY = AUDJPY,CADJPY,CHFJPY,EURJPY,GBPJPY,NZDJPY,USDJPY
Profile #9 Core = AUDUSD,EURUSD,GBPUSD,NZDUSD,USDCAD,USDCHF,USDJPY

Here is the H1 of Profile #1: AUDCAD,AUDCHF,AUDJPY,AUDNZD,AUDUSD,EURAUD,GBPAUD

What do you see when looking at these 7 AUD charts?

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  • #5,403
  • Sep 13, 2014 6:00pm Sep 13, 2014 6:00pm
Quoting shum
{quote} sam what is this?
Hi Shum,

The best way to deal with pauls or Sams entries is to simply bring up the charts on your screen and see where the trend is heading. Once you have looked at a few of the Splits as presented by sam and paul, it will instantly jump out at you what they mean as already mentioned by seller. Always bring up the charts on your screen and see what is presented, for me, that is the best way to teach, makes you work and think for yourself.

All the best.
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  • #5,404
  • Sep 13, 2014 9:27pm Sep 13, 2014 9:27pm
i deleted some entries in f3 and now all offline charts made with basketcreate670(identical baskets, different time frames) are each showing different price scale/price line numbers, throwing all templates and trend/sr lines out of position in each chart. i installed a fresh copy of mt4 and it produced the same results, even after i copied the history into the fresh install

please see picture of fresh install of mt4. the top four basket charts use basketv8 and the bottom four use basketcreate670. price line on all charts as well as the price scale is different from one chart to the next except for two. they are supposed to all show the same scale and current price

edit: just restarted the fresh mt4 and now all charts are identical except for one using basketcreate670 which is way off(?). my other mt4 that i deleted f3 entries from is still off, but switching to basketv8 so far has produced identical charts on each time frame. is all of this because i installed mt4 in the program files directory and not in c:\?

edit2: tried a fresh install in c:\ and same results. i don't know what i did but now all instances of mt4 produce eratic charts with this indi. basketv8 seems ok now with all identical charts, albiet the price scale is somewhere in the 10-15 range while charts made with basketcreate670 are in the 300 range(?)
help!
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  • #5,405
  • Sep 14, 2014 6:46am Sep 14, 2014 6:46am
Quoting seller9
{quote} Create 9 profiles of 7 charts each for several different time frames for each profile: The first 7 profiles of 7 are the same groups used in the Basket Writer EA. Profile #1 AUD = AUDCAD,AUDCHF,AUDJPY,AUDNZD,AUDUSD,EURAUD,GBPAUD Profile #2 CAD = CADCHF,CADJPY,AUDCAD,EURCAD,GBPCAD,NZDCAD,USDCAD Profile #3 CHF = CHFJPY,AUDCHF,CADCHF,EURCHF,GBPCHF,NZDCHF,USDCHF Profile #4 EUR = EURAUD,EURCAD,EURCHF,EURGBP,EURJPY,EURNZD,EURUSD Profile #5 GBP = GBPAUD,GBPCAD,GBPCHF,GBPJPY,GBPNZD,GBPUSD,EURGBP Profile #6 NZD = NZDCAD,NZDCHF,NZDJPY,NZDUSD,AUDNZD,EURNZD,GBPNZD...
This makes sense. However, I don't think I'm alone in wondering how you would determine ix0 values for these profiles, and I can't find any documentation on the ix0 indicator. So therefore it's quite a quagmire to even know where to begin, and I have found this to be an elusive topic. Cordially, Darran.
  • #5,406
  • Sep 14, 2014 7:34am Sep 14, 2014 7:34am
i think one should approach the xo settings as if they were trading manually(?) look at all of the moments on the charts where you would have taken trades and then adjust xo to be in agreement as close as possible. this requires looking at charts and transcribing your manual entries into the xo settings, which many would rather not do, thus it is always an elusive topic in basket threads
  • #5,407
  • Sep 14, 2014 8:28am Sep 14, 2014 8:28am
Quoting grrbear
i think one should approach the xo settings as if they were trading manually(?) look at all of the moments on the charts where you would have taken trades and then adjust xo to be in agreement as close as possible. this requires looking at charts and transcribing your manual entries into the xo settings, which many would rather not do, thus it is always an elusive topic in basket threads
Thank you grrbear. Now THAT's an answer. Reverse engineer, in a way. That makes complete sense. I don't know if the ix0 (I think that's the letter "I" and the letter "X" and the number Zee-roh) is a a divisible algorithm or what, or if it's based on numerical price value of a base currency or the position [sic] of the planets, ad nauseum. But I truly thank you for that idea to arrive at the values of a pair, based on performance.

I had an uncle that served in Guadal Canal, and he told me that they (Americans) were able to discern the footprints of the enemy in the sand by their pigeon toe and swamp feet toe spread. It' thinking like this (and yours) that solve problems. Right on.

By the way, your name reminds me of living in the great North-West of America. If you are chased by a black bear, and you climb up a tree...the black bear will climb up and get you. If however, you are chased by a grizzly bear, and climb up the tree, the grizzly will just "knock the tree down" and get you. Same-same, but different.
  • #5,408
  • Sep 14, 2014 9:07am Sep 14, 2014 9:07am
Quoting darranforex
{quote} Thank you grrbear. Now THAT's an answer. Reverse engineer, in a way. That makes complete sense. I don't know if the ix0 (I think that's the letter "I" and the letter "X" and the number Zee-roh) is a a divisible algorithm or what, or if it's based on numerical price value of a base currency or the position [sic] of the planets, ad nauseum. But I truly thank you for that idea to arrive at the values of a pair, based on performance. I had an uncle that served in Guadal Canal, and he told me that they (Americans) were able to discern the footprints...
i did choose the name randomly, but thank you for the advice(!) i don't think anybody knows the recipe to xo lol

a few months ago when i discovered multiple time frame profiles in mt4 the heavens opened up
  • #5,409
  • Edited 10:06am Sep 14, 2014 9:29am | Edited 10:06am
Quoting darranforex
{quote} This makes sense. However, I don't think I'm alone in wondering how you would determine ix0 values for these profiles, and I can't find any documentation on the ix0 indicator. So therefore it's quite a quagmire to even know where to begin, and I have found this to be an elusive topic. Cordially, Darran.
Hi darranforex'

I don't see any quagmire or elusive.
This is only a matter on how you develop your own trading profile in BT EA.

BT EA was created by seller9 is an Universal EA that support basket trading.
This BT EA is not Plug&Play Expert Advisor that have fixed values and winning probabilities and testimonies.
He will support you if you have technical difficulties, handling issues and upgrades.
We shared our trading screen shots here, so that we can discuss further and fine tune for better entry and exits.

Do practice more and test your setups outcome. I believe we already have hundreds of BT EA trading screen shots shared by others for you to follow and develop your basket trading profile.

This is an example of my BT EA setup for tomorrow trading day.
I only wish to take entry at major trend and ignore small reversal.
Other trader may do different filter values if he wish to take any price reversal.
I ignore HAS filter and use IXO1 and IXO2 as my entry signal.
My exit is Trailing Stop that I'm going to execute once hit my TP1 (20pips each pair).

The conclusion is....there is no fixed filters value or best values to win.
Take BT EA as your trading tool and you're the pilot that starts the engine and fly safely and succesfully.

I hope this will answer your doubt.

Best regards
Kopra
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[EDIT: IF YOU USE STANDARD BT EA BASKET PROFILE (PREPARED BY SELLER9), YOU DO NOT NEED TO ADJUST HAS, IXO1 & IXO2 FILTERS OFTEN]
You do good, Good will come to you. Self deception never succeed.
  • #5,410
  • Edited 12:06pm Sep 14, 2014 11:48am | Edited 12:06pm
seller and all, i really need some help here...now it turns out that basketv8 will make identical charts but the daily has a major gap in the timeline ei it goes from 2010 directly to 2014, along with other smaller gaps. so now i can't use basketv8 either : (

i downloaded all data in history center for the 3 pairs in this basket, forcedownloadhistory script, set max bars in options to 9999999999, plus there is over a gig in the history folder AND it was all working fine until yesterday when i deleted some f3 entries. now all versions of mt4 on the computer will not run basket charts properly no matter what i try. please help...

edit: out of the two baskets i run, one is making identical charts with basketv8 now. but the other basket no matter how much i download etc will not work properly with either basket indi, and this basket was the one which until recently was perfect with all time frames identical. something has gone wrong in the registry or something i don't understand how it can all of a sudden stop working in all instances of mt4. i have seen these problems of history gaps and missmatching price scales before with basket charts, but this is completely messed now. my brain is melting(!)
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  • #5,411
  • Edited 1:41pm Sep 14, 2014 1:01pm | Edited 1:41pm
here is a picture to further clarify. until whatever happened yesterday all basketcreate670 charts i was using were identical except for one which was off by a few points but otherwise still usable with the other charts. this is the same across all installs of mt4 now
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  • #5,412
  • Sep 14, 2014 2:44pm Sep 14, 2014 2:44pm
Quoting grrbear
here is a picture to further clarify. until whatever happened yesterday all basketcreate670 charts i was using were identical except for one which was off by a few points but otherwise still usable with the other charts. this is the same across all installs of mt4 now {image}
Hi grrbear,

I saw you're having a tough time to solve this issue.

On tech part sure I'm not in the right position to advise but as a user I can see you're using one basket profile for many TF.
4 TF for one profile I believe you're giving heavy load to retrieve all historical data.
Why don't you assign different profile name for different TF.....give it a try.

One more thing that I'm facing previously is when I tried to make new setup during weekend or closed market.
Usually broker server didn't function at full capacity....it might give you problem here and there.

Hope this one helps.

Good luck
Kopra.
You do good, Good will come to you. Self deception never succeed.
  • #5,413
  • Sep 14, 2014 3:24pm Sep 14, 2014 3:24pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Create 9 profiles of 7 charts each for several different time frames for each profile: The first 7 profiles of 7 are the same groups used in the Basket Writer EA. Profile #1 AUD = AUDCAD,AUDCHF,AUDJPY,AUDNZD,AUDUSD,EURAUD,GBPAUD Profile #2 CAD = CADCHF,CADJPY,AUDCAD,EURCAD,GBPCAD,NZDCAD,USDCAD Profile #3 CHF = CHFJPY,AUDCHF,CADCHF,EURCHF,GBPCHF,NZDCHF,USDCHF Profile #4 EUR = EURAUD,EURCAD,EURCHF,EURGBP,EURJPY,EURNZD,EURUSD Profile #5 GBP = GBPAUD,GBPCAD,GBPCHF,GBPJPY,GBPNZD,GBPUSD,EURGBP Profile #6 NZD = NZDCAD,NZDCHF,NZDJPY,NZDUSD,AUDNZD,EURNZD,GBPNZD...
thx seller, im understand that i must to look all this pairs(baskets of one pair), but..im not understand how to use them with core basket(majors), coz Sam says that first we must look to major core, then go and look to split baskets, like AUD,NZD, CAD and CHF..so here im confuze, how to apriceated what to trade, and what to look on core of majors?..im stell not understand how to use all this in the same moments..
  • #5,414
  • Sep 14, 2014 5:27pm Sep 14, 2014 5:27pm
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi grrbear, I saw you're having a tough time to solve this issue. On tech part sure I'm not in the right position to advise but as a user I can see you're using one basket profile for many TF. 4 TF for one profile I believe you're giving heavy load to retrieve all historical data. Why don't you assign different profile name for different TF.....give it a try. One more thing that I'm facing previously is when I tried to make new setup during weekend or closed market. Usually broker server didn't function at full capacity....it might give...
thanks kopra you are right. about 15 minutes after market open the charts on most of the installs are now in sync, albiet after a few restarts. will from now on do charting and template editing of offline charts during market hours and also will not touch offline charts on weekends, even though i was doing so for a few weeks without problems(though one of the charts was off by a few points). there is still the daily chart of the one basket using basketv8 that is missing half the chart, but i remember this happening many months ago with basketv8 on weekly basket charts. speaking of which, i can no longer create weekly basket charts anymore no matter which basket indi is used : /

it seems after i removed/reloaded the bt14 ea a few times (without first stopping) combined with deleting the entire f3 entries all while market was closed is what might have caused it. would like to know the science behind what is happening if anyone can comment. cheers
  • #5,415
  • Sep 14, 2014 5:31pm Sep 14, 2014 5:31pm
Quoting Gvc
{quote} Hi Wailer, Put it in EA folder..... {file}
What does this T101 EA tell us? How will it help you in the running of this EA?

Jimmy
  • #5,416
  • Sep 14, 2014 7:51pm Sep 14, 2014 7:51pm
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi darranforex' I don't see any quagmire or elusive. This is only a matter on how you develop your own trading profile in BT EA. BT EA was created by seller9 is an Universal EA that support basket trading. This BT EA is not Plug&Play Expert Advisor that have fixed values and winning probabilities and testimonies. He will support you if you have technical difficulties, handling issues and upgrades. We shared our trading screen shots here, so that we can discuss further and fine tune for better entry and exits. Do practice more and test your...
Hi KopraTasa, thank you for your well thought input. grrbear gave me the exactly the information I was seeking, or rather, pondering. I am highly aware that the ix0 doesn't have fixed values or magic recipes. I was just wondering what it (ix0) was based on. Like flying an airplane, one needs to understand the underlying principles, and understand why the altimeter is set to barometric pressure, why there is an RPM drop when switching magnetos, or applying carb heat. Me personally, I like feeling the confidence of knowing I understand things, so I can use them with less worry. Some things are avoided by people and I feel it's important for me to know why. I will look at the charts you posted and learn from them. Happy Trading! Darran.
  • #5,417
  • Sep 14, 2014 10:43pm Sep 14, 2014 10:43pm
Quoting KopraTasa
{quote} Hi darranforex' I don't see any quagmire or elusive. This is only a matter on how you develop your own trading profile in BT EA. I believe we already have hundreds of BT EA trading screen shots shared by others for you to follow and develop your basket trading profile.
This.

Guys, you have to develop a strategy that you are personally comfortable with. All the tools are there. What works for me may not work for you. Blindly copying a system has never been successful for me, I've had to develop my own rules, my own risk profile, SL and TP.

Use the examples as a guide, make your own rules and tweak if necessary.

Lets get back to Pippin'

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  • #5,418
  • Edited 2:05am Sep 15, 2014 12:04am | Edited 2:05am
Heap map - group pairs strength separation.

grouping are based on weekly..
but please refer to lower tf before opening the trades.
thanks & regards
Hukam
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  • #5,419
  • Sep 15, 2014 12:11am Sep 15, 2014 12:11am
Quoting hukam
Heap map - group pairs strength separation. grouping are based on weekly.. but please refer to lower tf before opening the trades. thanks & regards Hukam {image} {image}
Hi Hukam,

Very clear indicative!
  • #5,420
  • Sep 15, 2014 2:57am Sep 15, 2014 2:57am
Quoting Allammof
{quote} Morning Hukam and everyone, Please note that the Oanda Heat map can give you the daily strength as well.... u can even set it to two or three days. I hope i was of any help to you guys. {image}
thanks, i will try this..
but our aim is to find those pairs which are moving with approx equal strength, pips ranges, same direction and noise free within their own group.
regards
hukam
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