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  • #918,841
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:45pm Aug 22, 2014 12:45pm
Quoting Petiedawgs
They also found life in that Antarctic lake that has been sealed for millions of years. This to me is awesome because this proves that life really can exist in any type of habitat anywhere in the Universe. They maybe tiny organisms, but life nonetheless.
life even in very hot water almost boiling. But if you cool that water, that life will die.
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  • #918,842
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:45pm Aug 22, 2014 12:45pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} sunlight. Energy on earth mostly comes from sunlight. Plants growing needs sunlight (photosynthesis), and energy is stored in the tissues of plants, no matter they are fibers (long chain sugar), wax (oil), or other format. Animals eat plants to digest the fiber or oil (break them down) to get energy. Animals eat animals to get energy. We burn wood to get energy (heat). Almost all energy on earth comes from the sun in the light format.
the sun makes wind energy too
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  • #918,843
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:47pm Aug 22, 2014 12:47pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the sun makes wind energy too
yup. heat up the air and cause it to flow. Also some ocean tides.
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  • #918,844
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:48pm Aug 22, 2014 12:48pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Do you still see 3383 from here? Me personally, if we went up to 3330-50 next week, without breaking the current low, I would happily short it. If we break 3220 first, I will be more cautios with shorts.
not from 3232.. with 3232 hit, the pattern was voided. i am too gun shy to mention 374x before 3012, i put a chart up, since 3992 none have made it. we may still get a bounce,, i doubt it will be a normal one. the one for 3232 was just 1/4 of normal
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  • #918,845
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:49pm Aug 22, 2014 12:49pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} life even in very hot water almost boiling. But if you cool that water, that life will die.
life in hot ocean water by volcanic vent:
http://ocean.si.edu/ocean-videos/hyd...vent-creatures
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  • #918,846
  • Aug 22, 2014 12:56pm Aug 22, 2014 12:56pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} yup. heat up the air and cause it to flow. Also some ocean tides.
most energy on the earth is solar based energy, even the waters in the rivers are from evaporation caused by the sun. so hydro is solar based.. i love to tell people that, cause then you get the "i meant aaahgggg.." argument. most repeat what others are paid to preach w/o thinking about it.
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  • #918,847
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:00pm Aug 22, 2014 1:00pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} not from 3232.. with 3232 hit, the pattern was voided. i am too gun shy to mention 374x before 3012, i put a chart up, since 3992 none have made it. we may still get a bounce,, i doubt it will be a normal one. the one for 3232 was just 1/4 of normal
Does the high level need 3220 defending its ground?
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #918,848
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:09pm Aug 22, 2014 1:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} most energy on the earth is solar based energy, even the waters in the rivers are from evaporation caused by the sun. so hydro is solar based.. i love to tell people that, cause then you get the "i meant aaahgggg.." argument. most repeat what others are paid to preach w/o thinking about it.
yup.

from the wiki:
The total solar energy absorbed by Earth's atmosphere, oceans and land masses is approximately 3,850,000 exajoules (EJ) per year.[8] In 2002, this was more energy in one hour than the world used in one year.[13][14] Photosynthesis captures approximately 3,000 EJ per year in biomass.[15] The technical potential available from biomass is from 100–300 EJ/year.[10] The amount of solar energy reaching the surface of the planet is so vast that in one year it is about twice as much as will ever be obtained from all of the Earth's non-renewable resources of coal, oil, natural gas, and mined uranium combined,[16]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_energy
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  • #918,849
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:12pm Aug 22, 2014 1:12pm
how far the price will go deeper in the downtrend . it's enough the market is already oversold
  • #918,850
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:13pm Aug 22, 2014 1:13pm
Now this thread is rather Discovery Channel, than EurUsd.
f(z)=z2+c
  • #918,851
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:15pm Aug 22, 2014 1:15pm
3342 and above is minimum daily close, to bulls to have some hope on monday.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #918,852
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:16pm Aug 22, 2014 1:16pm
Quoting sherifFares
how far the price will go deeper in the downtrend . it's enough the market is already oversold
itll keep going until it reverses
  • #918,853
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:17pm Aug 22, 2014 1:17pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} itll keep going until it reverses
is it almost time to reverse?
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  • #918,854
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:19pm Aug 22, 2014 1:19pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} is it almost time to reverse?
time is relative, as is trading- so yes for some, and no for others.
  • #918,855
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:22pm Aug 22, 2014 1:22pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} is it almost time to reverse?
not reverse. it would be a bounce. the trend is down
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  • #918,856
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:22pm Aug 22, 2014 1:22pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Does the high level need 3220 defending its ground?
no... its just a simple 374x before 3012.. none of these has retraced since 2992.. so keep that in mind.. % wise 3102 before 4147 was about 85% of the way to 4147 before drop.. the failed one for 3232 had a bounce at about 95%.. .. 3747 before 3012 at the current low is only close to 72%.. on a counter trade i would rather a higher %.. then 3102 before 4147 means just that,, 3102 is a normal retrace before higher.. i dont think 4147 is in the picture with fundis.. but it is still valid.. a better long between 3102 and 3012 seems to be in those numbers.
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  • #918,857
  • Aug 22, 2014 1:24pm Aug 22, 2014 1:24pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} not reverse. it would be a bounce. the trend is down
no matter which way you are going up, down, left, rigth, north, south, east, west.... isn't reverse the opposite? Direction is relative as well...one persons forward may be another's reverse..
  • #918,858
  • Edited 1:58pm Aug 22, 2014 1:32pm | Edited 1:58pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} yup. from the wiki: The total solar energy absorbed by Earth's atmosphere, oceans and land masses is approximately 3,850,000 exajoules (EJ) per year.[8] In 2002, this was more energy in one hour than the world used in one year.[13][14] Photosynthesis captures approximately...
hydrogen is neutral.. since burning it produces just water. so unlike the others you can separate the water again and reburn the remaining hydrogen over and over. energy is never lost. it just changes form.
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  • #918,859
  • Aug 22, 2014 3:03pm Aug 22, 2014 3:03pm
Quoting KiwiTrada
{quote} still no answer just stupid ramblings, However probably not salt water because of corrosion, but water is also an excellent source of fuels H2O 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen = water, both highly inflammable gases, problem is it requires electricity to seperate the molecules which presently costs more than the gases produced, but definitely a possability bio fuels is just one of the fuels used by internal combustion engines, most are refined from crude oil petrol, diesel, meths, turps, kerosene (pure is avgas) etc etc gases again many...
I don't know what the hell you're on about but water can not be used as a fuel as you mention it. If you split the watermolecule first it requires you to get rid of 2 hydrogenbonds which are really strong. Because I'm such a nice guy and doesn't try to spread misinformation I calculated this for you and FF readers. Basically you lose 419.8 kJ/mol. This translates to 2 Wh lost per kilo of water used.
The Hydrogen doesn't ignite by itself, it reacts with the oxygen and forms water which means that you can't ignite just it and get energy. Hydrogen isn't combustible by it's own. So basically you want to create a perpetual motion machine that recycles this reaction ad infinitum. Good luck trying to commercialise this magic water of yours.

And you talk about ramblings. The rest of your post is complete garbage, you don't say anything. Yeah biofuels work. No they're not cost-efficient. You know why? Because mother nature hasn't had millions of year to ferment and put pressure on the lipids in plantsmatter. If you're a plant and you can't create the complex molecule that is refined petroleum you have to settle for something less. Costs alot less energy to make too. Only we people really need the insane energy storage of gasoline.

Again this discussion is dumb. I just dislike you talking about this matter as if you know there's a global conspiracy when in fact there's just limitations to what we can do. If i was disrespectful before i regret that. I realized now that I have to respect peoples beliefs.
  • #918,860
  • Aug 22, 2014 3:08pm Aug 22, 2014 3:08pm
Quoting Velites
{quote} I don't know what the hell you're on about but water can not be used as a fuel as you mention it. If you split the watermolecule first it requires you to get rid of 2 hydrogenbonds which are really strong. Because I'm such a nice guy and doesn't try to spread misinformation I calculated this for you and FF readers. Basically you lose 419.8 kJ/mol. This translates to 2 Wh lost per kilo of water used. The Hydrogen doesn't ignite by itself, it reacts with the oxygen and forms water which means that you can't ignite just it and get energy. Hydrogen...

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