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  • #74,461
  • Edited 2:45am Jul 21, 2014 2:34am | Edited 2:45am
Quoting priceguy
Dear Friends, sorry if i'm wrong i'm still beginner with Sonic R. System, i'm following this thread every day by few months and finally i'll trade using this wonderful method. I'm looking by euraud H1 tf, it is now in support by H4, Pin Bar and MM volume is very green, should I look for buy positions now, right ? {image} {image}
EURAUD:

Sonicers are watching this one, and the consensus is the MMs are bulls. They might take the price once more below the whole number in their efforts to accumulate longs at good prices ahead of a run for profits. Today is just the first of the new week, and frequently the first day or so is used by the Robber Bank MMs to move price opposite their real intentions, to build before running the price. We should be patient. There are high impact AUD releases Tuesday and Wednesday. I would imagine not before then would anything big take place. Of course we cannot know how they will move price next. But still, this is only Monday. Let's see if they whack the price back below the whole number But first they will likely allow time for a lot of traders to place their long orders while the Robber Bank MMs support the price above the whole number. These longs could later become liquidity for the Robber Bank MMs to get their own long orders filled by whacking the price and stopping longs out. Wait for the Stop Hunt on longs.......

-tah
  • #74,462
  • Jul 21, 2014 2:37am Jul 21, 2014 2:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURAUD: Sonicers are watching this one, and the consensus is the MMs are bulls. They might take the price once more below the whole number in their efforts to accumulate longs at good prices ahead of a run for profits. Today is just the first of the new week, and frequently the first day or so is used by the Robber Bank MMs to move price opposite their real intentions, to build before running the price. We should be patient. -tah

Thank you very Much, Mr. TAH, Goind to bed now, here (Brasil) is 4:36AM now, Have a Nice day Sonicers. 0/
God above all !!!
  • #74,463
  • Jul 21, 2014 6:00am Jul 21, 2014 6:00am
Hey guys,

Newbie here, need recommendation or some direction regarding to this UJ setup. Thank you for your kindness.

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  • #74,464
  • Jul 21, 2014 7:08am Jul 21, 2014 7:08am
Quoting medalist
Hey guys, Newbie here, need recommendation or some direction regarding to this UJ setup. Thank you for your kindness. {image}
My recomendation is to not trade UJ- too lazy pair, moves only with news almost... IN 7 days did 50 pips move... dont even worth to trade get on gj or ej
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  • #74,465
  • Jul 21, 2014 8:56am Jul 21, 2014 8:56am
Quoting sonicdeejay
HK index... M15.. Dragon going lower... Sonic {image}
How Did you identify this sell trade on HK Index ? What did you see to do this trades ? Thank you, sorry for my ignorance but i'm beginner in this system and I Wanna understand the PVSRA.
God above all !!!
  • #74,466
  • Jul 21, 2014 8:56am Jul 21, 2014 8:56am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPUSD Long Trade Closed: Closed for gain of 0.5 pips average, 9 pips total. {image}
Did you not get stopped out first? Post 74418 shows your stop at 1.70789 and the market went down far below that. Or do you not keep the stop under certain conditions and then close when back to breakeven? Just a little confused on this one. I did not take the trade figuring they (MM) would be stop hunting first.
  • #74,467
  • Jul 21, 2014 9:08am Jul 21, 2014 9:08am
Quoting priceguy
{quote} How Did you identify this sell trade on HK Index ? What did you see to do this trades ? Thank you, sorry for my ignorance but i'm beginner in this system and I Wanna understand the PVSRA.
It was a classice entry..

mkt slowly sink.. and became fast and furious at the close..



Sonic
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  • #74,468
  • Jul 21, 2014 9:23am Jul 21, 2014 9:23am
Quoting tgdrela1
Dear fellow traders, First of all thanks to TAH. You have provided us readers with first class information on how to Master SonicR. I don't know if there are many traders using JForex as a trading platform. I am one of those and I was always switching between metatrader and jforex. Now I have spent the last 5 days (and nights) coding the indicators based on TAH template and here is the result as a screen attachment. PVA_CANDLES (I draw the new candles over the original ones) PVA_Filled_Dragon(....you should know this one by now) PVA_Volumes(........
hey bro~I've been looking for such thing a long long time, finally I got the thought there may be some one has made it in the FF thread, and I found your little soft. I want to say thank you a loooooooooot!! Since the dukascopy is the most reliable ecn broker whose volume data really counts! But there is a little flaw. The PVA candle does not differ the dark and light grey color, thus it's a little bit difficult to say if a single price candle goes up or down. Could you add the different grey color in it, like the original sonic.r candle shows? That would be perfect!
and THANK YOU for you work again!
  • #74,469
  • Jul 21, 2014 9:31am Jul 21, 2014 9:31am
Opened and closed short Scout GBP/USD +245p
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  • #74,470
  • Edited 10:46am Jul 21, 2014 10:32am | Edited 10:46am
Quoting leentjai
Opened and closed short Scout GBP/USD +245p {image}
GBPUSD Short Trade Opened:

Another nice trade, leentjai.

I also stalked this one, but decided to wait further into the LS before making entry,......just in case, since this is only the first day of the week.

To me, this continues to look bearish because the Dragon continues cycling down and so with the Trend too. Actually, I would like to see the Robber Bank MMs whip the price, maybe a Stop Hunt on shorts, so I can add to this short trade. Even a whip up closer to the FR 50% than they have done thus far would be nice.

-tah
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  • #74,471
  • Jul 21, 2014 10:39am Jul 21, 2014 10:39am
Quoting cnlhc
{quote} hey bro~I've been looking for such thing a long long time, finally I got the thought there may be some one has made it in the FF thread, and I found your little soft. I want to say thank you a loooooooooot!! Since the dukascopy is the most reliable ecn broker whose volume data really counts! But there is a little flaw. The PVA candle does not differ the dark and light grey color, thus it's a little bit difficult to say if a single price candle goes up or down. Could you add the different grey color in it, like the original sonic.r candle...
cnlhc,

I don't know if you noticed, but that post by tgdrela1 is almost a year old, and he has not frequented this thread recently. You might need to PM him about this. It would be nice to have updated indicators coded in this other format because the ones we provide are only for MT4.

-tah
  • #74,472
  • Edited 1:58pm Jul 21, 2014 1:37pm | Edited 1:58pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPUSD Short Trade Opened: Another nice trade, leentjai. I also stalked this one, but decided to wait further into the LS before making entry,......just in case, since this is only the first day of the week. To me, this continues to look bearish because the Dragon continues cycling down and so with the Trend too. Actually, I would like to see the Robber Bank MMs whip the price, maybe a Stop Hunt on shorts, so I can add to this short trade. Even a whip up closer to the FR 50% than they have done thus far would be nice. -tah {image}...
GBPUSD Short Trade Update:

Added short Scout, based on seeing what I think is a Stop Hunt on shorts, which I have been waiting for. I adjusted the FR study and saw that this after hours whip up took price to the FR 62% area. That is a good enough whip to warrant adding, I think. No TP set at this time.
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  • #74,473
  • Edited 1:55pm Jul 21, 2014 1:44pm | Edited 1:55pm
Quoting medalist
Hey guys, Newbie here, need recommendation or some direction regarding to this UJ setup. Thank you for your kindness. {image}
My recommendation is that you toss those "mini charts" and put the PVA histogram back on your chart. The PVA histogram is a core part of PVA, and far, far more important than any "mini charts", which is simply another needless indicator - cluttering the chart and using computer resources - since you can easily change chart TFs to see what is going on, and get more information when you do.
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  • #74,474
  • Jul 21, 2014 1:49pm Jul 21, 2014 1:49pm
Quoting pipps
{quote} Did you not get stopped out first? Post 74418 shows your stop at 1.70789 and the market went down far below that. Or do you not keep the stop under certain conditions and then close when back to breakeven? Just a little confused on this one. I did not take the trade figuring they (MM) would be stop hunting first.
Previous GBPUSD Long Trade Closed:

No, and if you had read more carefully you would not have needed to ask.

I rarely use a hard SL, because my trades get stopped out nearly 100% of times that I do. I clearly stated the SL was "mental". I prefer to be able to re-assess things if the Robber Bank MMs whip or whack the price gets to my mental SL area, than to simply be stopped out there. Sometimes I will add there. PVSRA helps the trader to decide when price goes against the trade, if to "hold, fold, or add".

-tah
  • #74,475
  • Jul 21, 2014 1:59pm Jul 21, 2014 1:59pm
  •  a2g2
  • | Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Attract the grt trades........ | 15 Posts
Hi TAH
Talking about sl
ive been looking for yourprevious thread , where you explained where and how to hide tp as sl in one of the indicators
could you just run it by me again , if you dont mind
i knew i should have saved that thread page.
  • #74,476
  • Jul 21, 2014 2:04pm Jul 21, 2014 2:04pm
Quoting a2g2
Hi TAH Talking about sl ive been looking for yourprevious thread , where you explained where and how to hide tp as sl in one of the indicators could you just run it by me again , if you dont mind i knew i should have saved that thread page.
a2g2,

Come on! Examine the Trade Levels indy! It is all explained in the User Notes which you should have already read! Do your figgin' Post#1 homework instead of bothering here!

-tah
  • #74,477
  • Jul 21, 2014 6:28pm Jul 21, 2014 6:28pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} cnlhc, I don't know if you noticed, but that post by tgdrela1 is almost a year old, and he has not frequented this thread recently. You might need to PM him about this. It would be nice to have updated indicators coded in this other format because the ones we provide are only for MT4. -tah
yes master, I noticed that, and did PM him, just post here to let newcomer know there is such version'_'
  • #74,478
  • Jul 21, 2014 10:03pm Jul 21, 2014 10:03pm
What is Important in a Trading Method?

The obvious things to be weighed in importance are fundamentals and metrics. Metrics leads to analysis of volume, S&R and PA. PA leads to all manner of invented indicators (other than volume).

Trying to be informed enough to take everything into consideration, and to weight each properly is futile, because there is a third factor that is more important than all the rest: the control of price by the Robber Bank MMs.

The Robber Bank MMs will factor into their control of price and their price manipulations any change in "fundamentals", be it real, only perceived, or a total lie. So this leads us to metrics as the only way to have any chance at all of viewing the market correctly.

Metrics involves analyzing what can be measured: what the volume is, where S&R is, and what the price is. The thing to remember about price, PA, is that we cannot know how the Robber Bank MMs will move price next. That being the case, trying to trade on PA alone is futile. And having a trading method primarily based on price derivative indicators is futile. The only thing that gives PA meaning is what happens to volume when price changes, and in particular what happens to volume when PA is in areas of important S&R.

This leads us to Price-Volume-S&R Analysis (PVSRA), which utilizes only the three most important metrics in trading to see what is going on in the market. We cannot know how price will move next, but we can see what the Robber Bank MMs are doing with their manipulations of price - where and how they are taking the most advantage as they change price - which is the best way we have to get a feel for what the Robber Bank MMs are up to.

-tah
  • #74,479
  • Edited 11:06pm Jul 21, 2014 10:11pm | Edited 11:06pm
does my entry correct? pls correct me if im wrong.. tqvm
edited~
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  • #74,480
  • Jul 21, 2014 10:44pm Jul 21, 2014 10:44pm
EURAUD:

Sonicers, the consensus has been the Robber Bank MMs are bulls. There was just a AUD high impact release and the price dropped......

The Robber Bank MMs are likely still bulls. There is another AUD high impact release tomorrow, followed by EUR high impact releases the day after tomorrow. This gives the Robber Bank MMs plenty of time to work the price lower, to kill longs that have entered the market, or that might enter on any upswing during this time.

Look at your Day chart and see PA is forming a bullish declining wedge. See RWL is within the boundaries of this wedge and see where RWL is relative to historic PA. And see that RWL is just below a half number S&R level. Concede that the Robber Bank MMs might have that as their target for a Stop Hunt on longs this week before truly going bullish, if that is indeed the flavor of their scheming.
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