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  • #1,761
  • Jul 17, 2014 9:52am Jul 17, 2014 9:52am
Quoting Szpons
{quote} I'm testing it also on other commodities however on daily TF so first results should be in a few weeks
we are waiting for your result?
Every man who thinks ahead of his time is sure to be misunderstood.
  • #1,762
  • Jul 17, 2014 9:53am Jul 17, 2014 9:53am
Quoting Moonie
I've just taken a risky trade. GA long based on the M30 CSM. {image}
Please do not post your own charts on here and take risky trades. This will confuse everyone.

If you think you have a good system that does not involve as much risk, you can ask Nihilist to post your version of the system.

Please show respect to Nihilist, your fellow traders, and the thread.

ADX still says sell and Ultra Trend still says sell.

You are more than welcome to take your own trades at your own risk, but all we ask is to do so privately. Thank you.
Faith ends where worry begins, and worry ends where faith begins.
  • #1,763
  • Jul 17, 2014 9:55am Jul 17, 2014 9:55am
Quoting LITEchild
{quote} risky trade in my opinion...144 ADX not in agreement... {image}
IMHO he can take the trade as long as his TP isn't too far away. Waiting for 1440 to "align" (i.e. become blue), while it may be the rules recommendation, may actually - in this instance - cause him to "miss the train" so to speak.

Also, while at the subject, Nihilist I have a question:

Can I add my own "twist" to your NHG system and post the trades I take here also? OR
Should I just shut up?

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #1,764
  • Jul 17, 2014 9:59am Jul 17, 2014 9:59am
Quoting Moonie
I've just taken a risky trade. GA long based on the M30 CSM. {image}
Why are you going LONG on G/A?
  • #1,765
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:01am Jul 17, 2014 10:01am
Quoting forexvegan
{quote} Please do not post your own charts on here and take risky trades. This will confuse everyone. Please show respect to Nihilist, your fellow traders, and the thread. ADX still says sell and Ultra Trend still says sell. You are more than welcome to take your own trades at your own risk, but all we ask is to do so privately. Thank you.
Ooops, I guess I was posting my question when you posted this...

BUT...with all due respect, don't you think MOST of Moonie's Indies were gotten from NHG as it is? Plus he ALSO mentioned that he took a "RISKY" trade.

I wonder what is so confusing about that?

As it is, this thread already offers TWO complementing trading systems (NFI & NHG) - so it's to be expected that some folks WILL try and merge both to further fine tune their own style of trading.

Finally, like you said - it's his risk ain't it?

Please am ONLY trying to understand further.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #1,766
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:03am Jul 17, 2014 10:03am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Ooops, I guess I was posting my question when you posted this... BUT...with all due respect, don't you think MOST of Moonie's Indies were gotten from NHG as it is? Plus he ALSO mentioned that he took a "RISKY" trade. I wonder what is so confusing about that? As it is, this thread already offers TWO complementing trading systems (NFI & NHG) - so it's to be expected that some folks WILL try and merge both to further fine tune their own style of trading. Finally, like you said - it's his risk ain't it? Please am ONLY trying to understand further....
Just an addendum:

Going LONG on GA whether on the H4 or on the M30 is plain WRONG based on the NHG - so please DON'T get me wrong.

Am SHORT.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #1,767
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:03am Jul 17, 2014 10:03am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} As much as I understand the rules, if price has broken all MA-s then confirmation from all ADX is not needed. Just we must not take a short trade when one of ADX boxes is still lime. So, it was a valid entry, I guess.
Agreed. IF price has broken all MAs. But in case you didn't notice, Price was still ABOVE the 60ma in the entry candle marked!
Also not supported by CSM readings at the moment.
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  • #1,768
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:08am Jul 17, 2014 10:08am
a little bit twisting, i think acceptable, and allien's system also welcome here.
Every man who thinks ahead of his time is sure to be misunderstood.
  • #1,769
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:08am Jul 17, 2014 10:08am
Quoting forexvegan
{quote} Please do not post your own charts on here and take risky trades. This will confuse everyone. If you think you have a good system that does not involve as much risk, you can ask Nihilist to post your version of the system. Please show respect to Nihilist, your fellow traders, and the thread. ADX still says sell and Ultra Trend still says sell. You are more than welcome to take your own trades at your own risk, but all we ask is to do so privately. Thank you.
Every man who thinks ahead of his time is sure to be misunderstood.
  • #1,770
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:09am Jul 17, 2014 10:09am
Quoting TyLamai
{quote} Just an addendum: Going LONG on GA whether on the H4 or on the M30 is plain WRONG based on the NHG - so please DON'T get me wrong. Am SHORT. Regards, Ty
Sigh...further (pictorial) clarifications:

Short Entries on GA M30 & H4

Regards,

Ty
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  • #1,771
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:10am Jul 17, 2014 10:10am
Quoting LITEchild
{quote} Agreed. IF price has broken all MAs. But in case you didn't notice, Price was still ABOVE the 60ma in the entry candle marked! {image}
Yes, my mistake, I did not notice that on the posted chart, besides on my chart there was a clean break of all MAs due to different broker timing.
  • #1,772
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:11am Jul 17, 2014 10:11am
we are now running on developing mode, a related twisting may help us.
but I request not to use any unnecessary indicator.
Every man who thinks ahead of his time is sure to be misunderstood.
  • #1,773
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:13am Jul 17, 2014 10:13am
Quoting forexvegan
{quote} Please do not post your own charts on here and take risky trades. This will confuse everyone. If you think you have a good system that does not involve as much risk, you can ask Nihilist to post your version of the system. Please show respect to Nihilist, your fellow traders, and the thread. ADX still says sell and Ultra Trend still says sell. You are more than welcome to take your own trades at your own risk, but all we ask is to do so privately. Thank you.
Cammon, forexvegan, dont be too tight on people.

As far as i know you were one of the 1st to post screen shots not entirely based on Nihilist Indis.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...mentid=1450472

Thank you.
  • #1,774
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:15am Jul 17, 2014 10:15am
Quoting Nihilist
we are now running on developing mode, a related twisting may help us. but I request not to use any unnecessary indicator.
Nihilist. What were the MA's you were using again before you changed to kjun sen? 21, 60 and 89sma's?
  • #1,775
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:16am Jul 17, 2014 10:16am
Quoting Nihilist
we are now running on developing mode, a related twisting may help us. but I request not to use any unnecessary indicator.
Yes sir - I agree.

ALL I have added as a "twist", are:

- 5EMA shift 3, (yellow)
- Sweetspots
- and I only use: the NHG Indie, Nihilist's Ultra+Filter1 & 2.

That's it.

IMO, with this, my screen is even LESS cluttered.

Thank you again for an amazing system Nihilist.

Regards,

Ty
My job: I speculate and manage risk.
  • #1,776
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:16am Jul 17, 2014 10:16am
Quoting forexvegan
I think the euro has bottomed out or very close to it. I think we will see it rise in the next few days. Look at CSM daily, will wait to see it pointing up. Now looking to see when indicators agree to pull trigger.
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euro rise , i'll B in trouble 4sure = hopefully i can get rid of these trades with Profits$ by tmw 5PM [NY time]
  • #1,777
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:21am Jul 17, 2014 10:21am
I may be wrong, but I do believe this is strictly a trend following system? What is the definition of 'trend' with respect to this system? MAs, Kiju sen? The Holy Grail indicator? CSM readings? What about contradicting readings? Are we encouraged to take 'risky' trades? Are we encouraged to take only 'proper' grade A trades?. What is a 'proper grade A trade?. This thread is developing logically to the point where these things need to be well articulated. There are going to be many differing interpretations and opinions. It would be nice if the consensus could be well laid out to avoid confusion. Just my thoughts.
  • #1,778
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:24am Jul 17, 2014 10:24am
Quoting Helee
{quote} Cammon, forexvegan, dont be too tight on people. As far as i know you were one of the 1st to post screen shots not entirely based on Nihilist Indis. http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...mentid=1450472 Thank you.
Thanks for your post. I was learning the system and trying to develop strategies but found that Nihilist's method is simple and good enough.

I am just trying to keep the thread clean. How will it look if everyone if posting there version of the system with many other indicators in here? Ask Nihilist if you want to post your own system / indicators on here please. Thanks for understanding my friend.
Faith ends where worry begins, and worry ends where faith begins.
  • #1,779
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:25am Jul 17, 2014 10:25am
Quoting pips777
{quote} ======= euro rise , i'll B in trouble 4sure = hopefully i can get rid of these trades with Profits$ by tmw 5PM [NY time]
This is just an observation so please take it with caution.
Faith ends where worry begins, and worry ends where faith begins.
  • #1,780
  • Jul 17, 2014 10:28am Jul 17, 2014 10:28am
Quoting MKFXTrader
{quote} Nihilist. What were the MA's you were using again before you changed to kjun sen? 21, 60 and 89sma's?
21, 34,60 and TCCI
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