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  • #74,021
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:16am Jul 4, 2014 9:16am
Quoting smallshark
hiii tah, can you give me your opinion about usdcad? i am crazy with mms. this is my homework. h1 wave not active, {image} h4 mms buy below half and quarter number {image} d1, i see support zone {image}
USDCAD:

Trend still down. MMs still whacking the shit out of those trying to build long. Still looking bearish, but next week is a new week. Things can change.
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  • #74,022
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:19am Jul 4, 2014 9:19am
thanks you tah, nice weekend
  • #74,023
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:21am Jul 4, 2014 9:21am
Thanks fot the BATMAN and your magic line feinan... 54 pips close for the weekend.
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  • #74,024
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:41am Jul 4, 2014 9:41am
Quoting bubblo
{quote} Hi tah, happy holiday to you too, may I have your analysis on EU, many thanks Good weekend, {image}
EURUSD:

Been in a channel. Just broke out to the down side. Head Fake? We cannot know how price will move next, but quick moves like this just had are often moves made by the MMs solely for the purpose of taking profits at better price levels for building for the next moves. So, it does have a bullish "feel" to it, but while the MMs might have taken profits on their shorts - which would account for all that high volume on the spikes down - we have yet to see enough high activity at lows to suggest they are seriously rebuilding long now. Maybe next week will give us more clues. That the price has now been whacked below the whole number does suggest the MMs are now bulls, but we need to see more. And even after they might start showing high activity at lows, let us be mindful of the possibility that Stop Hunts might follow before any serious move back to the upside.

Here too, best to wait for London sessions, Stop Hunts, then Classics. The attached picture assumes bull MMs. This could turn out as bear MMs driving it even lower. We need more time, more clues.

-tah
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  • #74,025
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:57am Jul 4, 2014 9:57am
NZDJPY:

Look how the MMs whipped the price above the quarter number, traded with more activity, and continued to do so which just caused the price to quickly fall lower again. This 62% retrace of their earlier move down today is a very clear PVSRA indication the MMs are bears that are accumulating short orders. Based on this, I would expect next week the price will continue lower. As always, LS - Stop Hunts - Classics.

-tah
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  • #74,026
  • Jul 4, 2014 9:59am Jul 4, 2014 9:59am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURUSD: Been in a channel. Just broke out to the down side. Head Fake? We cannot know how price will move next, but quick moves like this just had are often moves made by the MMs solely for the purpose of taking profits at better price levels for building for the next moves. So, it does have a bullish "feel" to it, but while the MMs might have taken profits on their shorts - which would account for all that high volume on the spikes down - we have yet to see enough high activity at lows to suggest they are seriously rebuilding long now....
Got it very clear, thanks
Where do the Robber Bank MMs to placing their own bets on
  • #74,027
  • Jul 4, 2014 10:07am Jul 4, 2014 10:07am
Quoting traderathome
Market Comment: It looks like the MMs made their profit runs already early in the LS, have closed for profits and the weekend, and now have their computers set to retrace prices - soaking up liquidity for new positions (see GU example attached). Next week most likely will start off with more of the same. It could mean that setups we were looking at early today, will repeat next week. But, let us remember that we really cannot know how price will move next, and therefore it is best to simply wait for the London sessions, look for the Stop Hunts and...
How can you be so sure that the MM are Bearish??
  • #74,028
  • Edited 10:30am Jul 4, 2014 10:14am | Edited 10:30am
Quoting traderathome
Market Comment: It looks like the MMs made their profit runs already early in the LS, have closed for profits and the weekend, and now have their computers set to retrace prices - soaking up liquidity for new positions (see GU example attached). Next week most likely will start off with more of the same. It could mean that setups we were looking at early today, will repeat next week. But, let us remember that we really cannot know how price will move next, and therefore it is best to simply wait for the London sessions, look for the Stop Hunts and the Classics, and be prepared. Happy 4th of July, 2014 Sonicers, no matter where you live! -tah {image}
Quoting Lavanda
{quote} How can you be so sure that the MM are Bearish??
Lavanda,

The market comment you referenced said nothing about the MMs being bullish or bearish. That would depend on the individual pairs. In the case of GU, the PA shoe fits the Market Comment, imho, because now we see that when the MMs put the price back above the half number their activity increased (PVSRA bears). Of course next week is a new week. As I always say, we cannot know how price will move next. Therefore, - LS - Stop Hunts - Classics.

Lavanda, I answer you out of courtesy. By your profile you are not a Sonicer, but frequent other threads instead. Since coming to FF May 21, 2014 you have posted here just eight times, while posting elsewhere dozens and dozens of times. In the future, please return the courtesy and do our Post #1 homework instead of asking questions about how we do things here.

-tah
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  • #74,029
  • Jul 4, 2014 10:29am Jul 4, 2014 10:29am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Lavanda, The market comment you referenced said nothing about the MMs being bullish or bearish. That would depend on the individual pairs. In the case of GU, the PA shoe fits the Market Comment, imho, because now we see that when the MMs put the price back above the half number their activity increased (PVSRA bears). Of course next week is a new week. As I always say, we cannot know how price will move next. Therefore, - LS - Stop Hunts - Classics. Lavanda, I answer you out of courtesy. By your profile you are not a Sonicer,...
I'm just only learning. I was speaking about GU. The problem is that I've got one system, my system indicates me Bull (althought overbought). So, I was trying to understand things...I hope you do not mind if I lurk in your thread..
  • #74,030
  • Edited 11:20am Jul 4, 2014 10:44am | Edited 11:20am
Quoting Lavanda
{quote} I'm just only learning. I was speaking about GU. The problem is that I've got one system, my system indicates me Bull (althought overbought). So, I was trying to understand things...I hope you do not mind if I lurk in your thread..
Lavanda,

We Sonicers have no problems with others lurking. That is what the members of a lot of other threads do because where they are there is only a bunch of talk, and few charts. If there are some charts, they are totally not uniform, so readers have a devil of a time learning from these other threads. So, they come here for their signals and post elsewhere. We know this.

I am simply asking you to resolve your questions about what we do here by doing our Post #1 homework. I would be asking any Sonicer to do the same. If they did not, and continued with such questions, they would be banned. We are traders here. We have provided complete instruction, which starts with Post #1. We do not have time nor patience to explain to all who have not done this homework, when the homework has been designed to relieve us of that burden.

BTW, regarding GU, here is another PVSRA indication,......bear MMs running the price up into the LS close to capture any remaining liquidity for shorting.

-tah
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  • #74,031
  • Jul 4, 2014 11:01am Jul 4, 2014 11:01am
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Short Trade Opened: Entered with Scout yesterday, but obviously too soon. Added a Scout earlier this Asian session. Seems to be moving down nicely now and maybe because the US Robber Bank MMs are taking a day off from stealing, and the other MMs figure now is the time to knock this down a peg or two. {image}
USDJPY Short Trade Closed:

Closed for loss of 8.4 pips average, 167 pips total. Not my favorite pair. I mostly lose when I trade this. I think I will boycott it henceforth.

-tah
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  • #74,032
  • Jul 4, 2014 11:05am Jul 4, 2014 11:05am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} NZDJPY Short Trade Update: Added short Scout on retrace. I expect this to drop below the lower whole number and hit some target the MMs have down there, but not until next week. Still no TP at this time. Will reassess next week, which might or might not involve a further retrace early in the week (always a possibility). {image}
NZDJPY Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 6.4 pips average, 12.9 pips total. Decided to close and reassess next week.
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  • #74,033
  • Jul 4, 2014 11:05am Jul 4, 2014 11:05am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Lavanda, We Sonicers have no problems with others lurking. That is what the members of a lot of other threads do because where they are there is only a bunch of talk, and few charts. If there are some charts, they are totally not uniform, so readers have a devil of a time learning from these other threads. So, they come here for their signals and post elsewhere. We know this. I am simply asking you to resolve your questions about what we do here by doing our Post #1 homework. I would be asking any Sonicer to do the same. If they did not,...
Astonishingly movement during 4th of July, American market closed. From now on, I will try to ad value if I post. Thanks cause your kindness.
  • #74,034
  • Jul 4, 2014 11:19am Jul 4, 2014 11:19am
Quoting gigicualex
Just entered the below classic long on USDCHF {image}
Decided to close my USDCHF long trade for -3.3 pip lost.
Waited all day long but PA is not making HH. Also I noticed bearish activity on the PVSRA indicator, plus I'm not willing to go into the weekend with this opened position. Maybe MMs are pushing lower for a buy at the beginning of next week...time will tell
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  • #74,035
  • Edited 12:18pm Jul 4, 2014 11:40am | Edited 12:18pm
Quoting Lavanda
{quote} Astonishingly movement during 4th of July, American market closed. From now on, I will try to ad value if I post. Thanks cause your kindness.
GBPUSD: Greedy, Deceiving and Thieving Robber Bank Bastards Building Short!

Yep, another Stop Hunt for shorts by the Robber Bank MMs! Every time they do this, the evidence grows that they are not stealing shorts just for the fun of it, or just because thievery is in their blood line and they can't help themselves. They are greedy, deceiving and thieving bastards building short, by stealing from others, for a good move lower.

Do you know what your Robber Bank MMs are doing when they are supposed to be on a holiday?......
..........the Shadow knows!
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  • #74,036
  • Edited 1:45pm Jul 4, 2014 12:47pm | Edited 1:45pm
USDCAD:

My gosh! Just look at this perfect LS Sonic R. Classic long trade setup and follow-thru.

MMs have taken the price right back above the half number from whence they last launched a whip & whack, the purpose still not clear. This is still in a down trend. And above key SR is where MMs prefer to build short. And price is now back above key SR, where it will probably be as the next week opens.

Anyway, this Classic is a perfect example of what a setup should look like. Never mind that the run was puny, it is Friday, the "trade" ran into after hours, and it is a US bank holiday (4th of July Independence Day). It was just the MMs whipping price up higher, where they want it to start off next week, imho. We will see then, how things continue. More PA and clues are needed, and best if they are fresh next week.

There is a remarkable thing going on with this pair, however. It is more than two hours since the LS closed. All other pairs have "dead" PA, no PA at all, or practically none! But not with USDCAD! The PA for this pair is still very active! I cannot imagine such activity continuing just to get price 25 pips higher so shorting can resume next week. They could easily do this next week. So why is this pair so active when all the others are "dead"?

My guess (and that is all it is) is that the MMs are now building long, preparing for a bull run for profits. And it might be a in the form of a sneak attack move, a move up, fast and furious,.....and maybe starting in the first Asian session next week. Or, maybe a gap up next week? And maybe the MMs moved the price now to above the half number because that was where pending short orders have been placed by others. Maybe that is the only place remaining, and triggering those pending short orders the only method remaining, for the MMs to get liquidity for adding more longs before something dramatic happens. As I say, this is just a guess, and based only on the continuing activity of this pair - now late in Friday - when every other pair is "sleeping". I really have no idea, but this is suspicious.

-tah
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  • #74,037
  • Jul 4, 2014 1:46pm Jul 4, 2014 1:46pm
Quoting traderathome
GBPUSD Short Trade Opened: Classic entry on retrace back up to Dragon. {image}
Classic, scout, Stop - Hunt, PVSRA
Great topic recently about that... Let me say some about this, "TAH commonly said that we never know when / where the price will move next." Even Sonic system is basically a method to reduce the risk. A perfect executed classic formation do not guarantee that it will turn green ASAP. Why? MM and Robberbank never give their money as easy as possible. Then how to know when to Fold? Below all the perfect example about risk;
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TAH first executed the short entry with classic formation occur... Few hours after, I put my self into battle, when stop hunt occured... I know it risky, but I take the risk...
Quoting Gupito1508
GBPUSD Short scout throw into battle Bull weakness appear... Throw a scout as an opportunity that market offered to me... -GP- {image}
Then, mistakenly, I admit this is a wrong choice, the hunt for stop from MM keep continue... I responded this with a careless act, instead of fold (why fold? Later), I add...
Quoting Gupito1508
{quote} GBPUSD update 2nd scout goes into battle... 3rd short waiting at 1.7150... -GP- PS : WARNING This position is risky... don't try this without proper knowledge into SONIC R system first.... {image}
Followed from all suffered equity, I add more for reinforce, which is premature;
Quoting Gupito1508
Trade UPDATE GBPUSD Short add at 1.7150... Bull weakened... Reversal? Maybe... still going higher? Maybe... Time will tell... -GP- PS : Don't try this into your daily basis Trade before you already gained experience with much blowed account... Trully... {image} {image}
This, maybe a series of bad example from myself... I put this into trading journal that should be learn and carefully remember when the same situation occur... I should have fold this at the first time the hunt continuation... Below is PVSRA read that I missed to learn, and because I missed this, I trapped into long battle with this pair;
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The perfect classic and scout entry is from Denmas;
Quoting denmas
Thanks fot the BATMAN and your magic line feinan... 54 pips close for the weekend. {image}
Nicely timed, and perfect exit... Some maybe asked, then, how about this loosing position? Will you fold? or hold? Basically, before enter into market, I always count the risk, and have a number to fold... Right now, I still hold... But if MM keeping up, I prefer to fold, look for better price to jump. That's it... Like Feinan did on every trade, I also assume, all my position is wrong. Because of that, I always have a risk count and already setup, where, and when to fold, in case MM keep the stop hunt run. That's it... Trade before stop hunt done or after it done is up to you. Count the risk well. Talk about count the risk, you will get the sense how to count the risk by experience with the market. Jump, and taste the fire. By that, each trade you take, you'll get a lesson from it. Do not, I repeat DO NOT affraid to loss. Feel it, chew it, and took a lesson from it.
Regards,
-GP-
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  • #74,038
  • Edited 2:43pm Jul 4, 2014 2:09pm | Edited 2:43pm
Quoting Gupito1508
{quote} Classic, scout, Stop - Hunt, PVSRA Great topic recently about that... Let me say some about this, "TAH commonly said that we never know when / where the price will move next." Even Sonic system is basically a method to reduce the risk. A perfect executed classic formation do not guarantee that it will turn green ASAP. Why? MM and Robberbank never give their money as easy as possible. Then how to know when to Fold? Below all the perfect example about risk; {image} TAH first executed the short entry with classic formation occur... Few hours...
Gupito,

I have slightly modified part of your last lines to express my feelings, similar to yours.....

"....Trade before stop hunt done or after it done, is up to you. Count the risk well, because you can easily turn out to have guessed wrong. The "done" Stop Hunt might not be done! You will get the sense how to count the risk by experience with the market. Jump, and taste the fire. By that, each trade you take, you'll get a lesson from it...."

The market demands some flexibility on the part of the trader. That does not mean throwing out the rules. It can mean not jumping when everything looks just perfect according to the rules, or it could mean to jump when everything does not meet the rules. The Robber Bank MMs are not rigid. They are flexible. We need to be somewhat flexible also. This is not something that can be "book learned". Learn the application of the Sonic R. System very well. That is "book learning". But the real growth of the trader comes from experience.

Knowledge comes in three forms: (1) knowledge - the knowledge "bank" out there that anyone can investigate, (2) knowledge learned - what you are taught from it by others, or what you teach yourself from it by your own study, and (3) knowledge experienced - what you absorb from actually doing. Experiential knowledge is superior. The biblical koine greek language has three words for these states of knowledge: nos (knowledge), nosis (knowledge learned), and epinosis (knowledge experienced, 'absorbed truth') I might not have the spellings correct, but you get the point. Until one actually trades, takes measured risks and wins or loses without over emoting, one cannot grow as a trader. Experiential knowledge is superior. It is the only way each trader can achieve absorption of the truth about the forex market, and trading it successfully.

-tah
  • #74,039
  • Jul 4, 2014 2:13pm Jul 4, 2014 2:13pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Gupito, I have slightly modified part of your last lines to express my feelings, similar to yours..... "....Trade before stop hunt done or after it done, is up to you. Count the risk well, because you can easily turn out to have guessed wrong. The "done" Stop Hunt might not be over! You will get the sense how to count the risk by experience with the market. Jump, and taste the fire. By that, each trade you take, you'll get a lesson from it...." The market demands some flexibility on the part of the trader. That does not mean throwing out...
That's it TAH... Flexibility... and experience...
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  • #74,040
  • Edited 3:48pm Jul 4, 2014 2:37pm | Edited 3:48pm
NZDUSD:

Suddenly, so late in the last day too, this is getting serious activity. and looks bearish when viewed on lower TFs. Here, we can see the bear activity is now increasing, while the latest bull activity is very small! Bears have the ball!
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