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  • #72,741
  • Jun 3, 2014 9:35am Jun 3, 2014 9:35am
gu classic short trade set up
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  • #72,742
  • Jun 3, 2014 9:45am Jun 3, 2014 9:45am
UJ - closed for 4600 pips gain

It started with classic wave, classic failed and this is result of scouts.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #72,743
  • Edited 10:15am Jun 3, 2014 9:58am | Edited 10:15am
EURUSD Comment:

This continues to range. The range keeps the price mostly above the whole number (PVSRA). The established down trend is still valid. Today, the MMs succeeded in resetting the price towards the range top. Just my opinion, but based on what I see on this chart this pair continues to be bearish and the MMs continue to take every opportunity to punch price upwards to favor their short building.

Think about. It is speculative, but it gets to the heart of how the price controlling MMs work. With a 400+ pips bear swing seemingly complete now, it is natural - even compelling - traders will be thinking that a bull retrace is coming. And with a 400+ pips bear swing, a bull retrace should be good, maybe 200+ pips back up. This bullish bias might be just what the MMs are taking advantage of, getting lots of liquidity for shorting each time the MMs start manipulating the price upwards!

-tah
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  • #72,744
  • Jun 3, 2014 10:07am Jun 3, 2014 10:07am
Quoting loeil
UJ - closed for 4600 pips gain It started with classic wave, classic failed and this is result of scouts. {image}
Excellent, loeil!
I want to ask you, why do you prefer instruments like EURUSD, USDJPY, because of low margin?
  • #72,745
  • Jun 3, 2014 10:17am Jun 3, 2014 10:17am
kiwi dollar classic short
  • #72,746
  • Edited 10:40am Jun 3, 2014 10:23am | Edited 10:40am
Quoting bolehbah69
kiwi dollar classic short
Prove it with a chart! I don't think so! It is irresponsible of you to post such a statement without so much as a chart to support it!

While you are at it, you might take a close PVSRA look on M1! There is no catalyst for the move down other than the several USD high impact releases coming tomorrow. The MMs do not react to releases. They scheme in advance of them. So, why down now so much ahead of the releases. The MMs could be bulls and want the price lower so they can build longs before the releases come. From the M1 chart, it sure looks like the MMs are now taking more advantage of these lows than they did of the higher prices all day.

If you think it is a Classic short, then why did you not trade it as you should, and post your trade chart as you should?

BTW, you are racking up a lot of posts without pics. - a clear violation of Sonic's #1 rule.

-tah
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  • #72,747
  • Jun 3, 2014 10:23am Jun 3, 2014 10:23am
Quoting feinan
{quote} long be careful, Price below dragon
Hi,

Hope you have better result today, am watching GBPUSD all the day (having position with EU, EJ both short and holding), learning more of Sonic R System.

Classic sell setup?
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  • #72,748
  • Jun 3, 2014 10:25am Jun 3, 2014 10:25am
Quoting altamar
{quote} Excellent, loeil! I want to ask you, why do you prefer instruments like EURUSD, USDJPY, because of low margin?
I actually not prefer any pairs but I just trade with most traded pairs like EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, EURJPY, GBPJY, USDCAD, USDCHF.

Margin is mostly the same (except gold and silver of course), so it doesn't matter at all.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #72,749
  • Edited 10:41am Jun 3, 2014 10:28am | Edited 10:41am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Prove it with a chart! I don't think so! While you are at it, you might take a close PVSRA look on M1! There is no catalyst for the move down other than the several USD high impact releases coming tomorrow. The MMs do not react to releases. They scheme in advance of them. So, why down now if the releases are going to be bad? If that is to be the case, then the MMs should be supporting the price while building more shorts before the releases. Instead, they have very quickly dropped the price. Looks more like the MMs are bulls and want the...
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Sorry the chart is here..
  • #72,750
  • Jun 3, 2014 10:39am Jun 3, 2014 10:39am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Prove it with a chart! I don't think so! It is irresponsible of you to post such a statement without so much as a chart to support it! While you are at it, you might take a close PVSRA look on M1! There is no catalyst for the move down other than the several USD high impact releases coming tomorrow. The MMs do not react to releases. They scheme in advance of them. So, why down now so much ahead of the releases. The MMs could be bulls and want the price lower so they can build longs before the releases come. If you think it is a Classic...
Prof Tah, i did not enter the trade, because the volume does not look right or legit.. and no news or big event happen during that time.. so this is a false classic to lure more seller to short..
  • #72,751
  • Edited 10:52am Jun 3, 2014 10:39am | Edited 10:52am
Quoting bolehbah69
kiwi dollar classic short
This might be the one that you're mentioning.
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However, the price current halt at previous structure level.
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IMO, with USD high impact news release on coming Wednesday & Friday, MMs "whip n' whack" the price downwards to suck in seller & obtain liquidity to build their long position ahead of news release. They clearly manipulating the price currently during NY session to kill off weak bull and suck in retail bear for their own liquidity to go long.
This is what they capable of manipulating the market to suck in wrong side retail traders.
We cannot know how the price will move in the future, obey the Sonic R System rules & follow the instructions.
Dragon is currently pointing down & slightly below Trend. Is now best to watch like a hawk, and attack like a spartan when a classic long appears during Wednesday LO / Friday LO.
Trade safe.

-AdrianC.
  • #72,752
  • Edited 11:30am Jun 3, 2014 11:18am | Edited 11:30am
EURNZD Short Trade Opened:

M1 Classic short, based on EUR to get weaker and NZD to get stronger. Both events could unfold over remainder of week, so will just see how it goes from here. The sudden price pump is typical MM price manipulation when they want to create liquidity. In this case, by triggering longs and stopping out shorts they create liquidity for short building. And it leaves the price higher, which is good for deceiving traders into thinking things are bullish, which is also good for on-going short building.
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  • #72,753
  • Jun 3, 2014 11:27am Jun 3, 2014 11:27am
Quoting traderathome
EURNZD Short Trade Opened: M1 Classis short, based on EUR to get weaker and NZD to get stronger. Both events could unfold over remainder of week, so will just see how it goes from here. The sudden price pump is typical MM price manipulation when they want to create liquidity, in this case by triggering longs and stopping out shorts. {image}
Tah,
If you dont mind would you take a look at Gbp/Nzd. I have been following this pair for a week and it seems to me that they have been selling heavy over 1.9800 for days. Now this big run up for no reason makes me doubt my conclusion of bears. I respect your opinion and would like you input

Thanks
Bill

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  • #72,754
  • Jun 3, 2014 11:50am Jun 3, 2014 11:50am
Quoting billko1977
{quote} Tah, If you dont mind would you take a look at Gbp/Nzd. I have been following this pair for a week and it seems to me that they have been selling heavy over 1.9800 for days. Now this big run up for no reason makes me doubt my conclusion of bears. I respect your opinion and would like you input Thanks Bill {image}
Kiwi (NZD):

It is very clear the MMs attacked this one today. They did so in quick and dirty fashion on related pairs. This move was without any catalyst, save for the upcoming USD high impact releases this week, and possibly the three NZD high impact releases next Wednesday. The MMs do not react to releases. They scheme in advance of them. The conclusion is that the Deceiving & Thieving Robber Bank MMs have decided to stock up on NZD across the board, but not without first manipulating the market so they would have better prices at which to do so.

Only my opinion,
-tah
  • #72,755
  • Jun 3, 2014 2:20pm Jun 3, 2014 2:20pm
Quoting wizz2014
EJ - Another possible pre LO classic. Not 100% sure, but it looked a good trade to take. Thoughts welcome! {image}
EJ - Had to close this for now for 513 pips. I didnt have time to build like I would want to and the general sentiment is that there may be weakness in the background.
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  • #72,756
  • Jun 3, 2014 3:20pm Jun 3, 2014 3:20pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Kiwi (NZD): It is very clear the MMs attacked this one today. They did so in quick and dirty fashion on related pairs. This move was without any catalyst, save for the upcoming USD high impact releases this week, and possibly the three NZD high impact releases next Wednesday. The MMs do not react to releases. They scheme in advance of them. The conclusion is that the Deceiving & Thieving Robber Bank MMs have decided to stock up on NZD across the board, but not without first manipulating the market so they would have better prices at which...
I thought it was something with the price of milk. And NZ being a large milk producer for asia...
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  • #72,757
  • Jun 3, 2014 3:34pm Jun 3, 2014 3:34pm
Quoting wizz2014
{quote} EJ - Had to close this for now for 513 pips. I didnt have time to build like I would want to and the general sentiment is that there may be weakness in the background. {image}
Well done

But I see that you took late entries. There were 2 nice classics before your entries too .
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  • #72,758
  • Jun 3, 2014 4:00pm Jun 3, 2014 4:00pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} Well done But I see that you took late entries. There were 2 nice classics before your entries too . {image}
Thanks Master Loeil. And yes I could have entered earlier. Still learning and like Prof Tah advises - Have patience like a hunter!
  • #72,759
  • Jun 3, 2014 4:57pm Jun 3, 2014 4:57pm
Just want to say Great Job! you guys. This thread is a hidden treasure. A Goldmine indeed for people who knows the value.

Please I would like to know if you guys will have a thread where members place newly emerging trading signals for various currencies, futures, indices and stocks. Or do you guys just focus on currencies?
  • #72,760
  • Jun 3, 2014 5:19pm Jun 3, 2014 5:19pm
TAH,

Your PM's please. I think lemons have been made into lemonade

Regards,
Cigarguy
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