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  • #72,101
  • May 22, 2014 7:43pm May 22, 2014 7:43pm
Quoting Gupito1508
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate. On a good day, I’m okay… On a bad day, I’m...
Thank you for sharing your experience !
  • #72,102
  • May 22, 2014 8:02pm May 22, 2014 8:02pm
Quoting cigarguy
TAH, (Technical Question, Non Sonic Related ) Beginning on 5/19, I started getting these volume bars. I have not seen any post by anyone else with this issue? I guess is a broker feed problem. I have not made any changes to any of these indicators that have been loaded and working fine since my initial install and showing the same on 3 computers. Your good with MT4 stuff, any suggestions? MT4 Ver 4.00, Build 646 (I will delete this post after your reply not to clutter) Regards, Cigarguy {image}
The volume bars appear too consistent in height. The colors do match the candlestick colors. My guess is it is the data in the feed. Why it is now different than before, where probably there was more variation in bar heights, I do not know. This is something to call your broker about.
  • #72,103
  • Edited 9:03pm May 22, 2014 8:50pm | Edited 9:03pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The volume bars appear too consistent in height. The colors do match the candlestick colors. My guess is it is the data in the feed. Why it is now different than before, where probably there was more variation in bar heights, I do not know. This is something to call your broker about.

TAH,

Thanks, figured as much but thought I would ask

Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #72,104
  • Edited 9:28pm May 22, 2014 9:09pm | Edited 9:28pm
10 reasons why this thread is making money randomly

1) It has no edge. Classic or not, PVRSA or not, it is still 50-50 which means no edge (over the years..quite a long period of time)
2) Almost everyone who posted from beginning (that traded real accounts) had blowed up their account. For those that posted from page 2400 onwards, please read again and see who is left..Just see those evangelist, click on their profile and see their last few comments.
3) Real traders do not divulge the way to create the golden goose.
4) Those that cant trade, they try to teach
5) Example from TAH's trades are not to be followed unless you are trading microlots or you are already a millionaire (but then again why would one be here if they are already so rich). Check his lot numbers, drawdowns held, and question yourself, how much margin in real life would it require. Put in a little common sense. If he is still trading demo after all these years, you'll know that this doenst work.
6) An EDGE is defined as, a way to enter and exit trades which over a long period of time will yield a positive skew. The way to enter and exit will have little discretion and just needs to be followed religiously. This is not what is happening in this thread. There is no consensus, there is no sure way of entry and exit and everyone can say what they want about PVRSA.
7) Remember when averaging down, you can win 99 trades and 1 trade can kill you. So averaging down has no value.
8) Money management is not about getting an edge, it is about risk of ruins. Best Money management = risk only 1% of capital in each trade. Meaning your stop loss pips should be 1% of capital. Meaning you have 100 chances. If you still blow 100 chances, you are not cut-out/ or have any edge in the way you are trading.
9) Reward/Risk Ratio. 2:1 Period. Win 1 trades = losing 2 trades. If you still cant win this way, then your system is wrong.
10) For those that still doubt, ask yourself, question yourself. Is there any free lunch in this world? NO. Why are people doing this ? ( This is hard to answer as everyone has their own motives. It will be hard to decipher but remember again rule #10, There is no FREE LUNCH) All I can say is, Sonic personally has used this thread marketing to manage money for people. ( i say good luck to those people given most likely money will be lost within 2 years). The purpose of this thread is to market it saying it has XX number of views. 13 million by now i believe. wonder how many forexfactory accounts they own as well. Just use your brains, google some and see it for yourself. Sonicdeejay, Kyaw trader, Singapore, Burmese, Traders Round Table, GOMAX. Again best piece of advise, always think from the other person's perspective and see what they stand to gain/lose from their actions. Cheers.


P/s: btw if you really think PVRSA has any value, well you might be right. In the opposite direction though. Remember when you BUY, the broker has to automatically SELL to you. Meaning he is SHORT when you are LONG. The broker, at that moment, has to either 1) hedge the risk or 2) keep the risk if he thinks it is going to reverse. How can any other person guess this other than the man himself? Think about it.

Im ready to get banned because TAH controls Sonicdeejay's account.

Student number 100,394,239 to get banned from this thread.... NOT.
I leave, as there are too many ignorant ppl around. (or maybe fake accounts) Because I just cant believe how simple some replies are. May your spirit of wanting to believe something/someone lead you all to a better place where there will be free lunches around. HOPE is never a bad thing.

Cheerio
  • #72,105
  • May 22, 2014 9:35pm May 22, 2014 9:35pm
Quoting Kuat
10 reasons why this thread is making money randomly ...
Well, you are challenging ignore list.
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #72,106
  • Edited 11:01pm May 22, 2014 9:40pm | Edited 11:01pm
Quoting Kuat
10 reasons why this thread is making money randomly 1) It has no edge. Classic or not, PVRSA or not, it is still 50-50 which means no edge (over the years..quite a long period of time) 2) Almost everyone who posted from beginning (that traded real accounts) had blowed up their account. For those that posted from page 2400 onwards, please read again and see who is left..Just see those evagelist that defended TAH, click on their profile and see their last few comments. 3) Real traders do not divulge the way to create the golden goose. 4) Those that...
"3) Real traders do not divulge the way to create the golden goose." - kuat

This is an example of haughty arrogance embedded with implied validation of greed, kuat. This is your kind of thinking and therefore what you are, selfish and greedy. You seem just like some others that have attacked this thread, frantically lashing out at what is helping others become better, while you are not making a dime off of it! You have only been at Forex Factory less than two months. You are totally without credentials. You have never even posted a real-time trade. Not one! And yet, you presume to attack the best thread on Forex Factory, the only thread on FF where the explicit posting of real-time trades by members is a daily routine. Well, you just made my day. I need a good laugh now and then.

If I could make myself believe you were a recent plant from one of those Robber Banks, then I'd really get a good laugh!

You are attempting to detract from the good works this thread is accomplishing. You give no credit where credit is due: for the thousands of man hours Sonicers have put into nurturing and strengthening this thread, providing free templates, indicators, assistance, and years of ongoing real-time trades posted daily by Sonicers. I can go on, but Sonicers understand a brash, wet behind the ears, negative person like you going up against a positive and productive thread like this. You are calling us Sonicers ignorant when you are the one that just got off the boat! You have contributed nothing to others and do not subscribe to the basis of this thread, "....sharing is caring...." Even as you were posting your conscience was telling you, you do not deserve to be here.

I will tell you a secret that you might not know. We do not send out invitations for folks to come here. Those that come here, do so of their free will. We do not force anyone to stay here. Those that stay, do so of their free will. Those that leave, failed. The are just like "F" students at a University. They left because they didn't do work prescribed, and failed. Well over 90% of retail traders lose their money. We do not have anywhere near 90% of Sonicers failing and leaving. In fact, we help more traders become more successful than any other thread on FF, as evidenced by the unsolicited proclamations posted on FF by these traders themselves.

Finally, let me comment on your P/S, which was....

"P/s: btw if you really think PVRSA has any value, well you might be right. In the opposite direction though. Remember when you BUY, the broker has to automatically SELL to you. Meaning he is SHORT when you are LONG. The broker, at that moment, has to either 1) hedge the risk or 2) keep the risk if he thinks it is going to reverse. How can any other person guess this other than the man himself? Think about it."

What you are implying is that the broker has the other side of the trade, and the broker knows what will happen and won't lose, so the trader will lose. Gee, I guess it follows that your recommendation is that we should all fold up shop and get out of the market. Well, with that display of superlative insight on your part, you can consider your work done here. I am sure all Sonicers agree that it is interesting you saved your attack on PVSRA for last, so it would stand out. Well, we Sonicers already know the value of PVSRA, and why others wish it was never presented to Sonicers.

-tah
  • #72,107
  • May 22, 2014 9:56pm May 22, 2014 9:56pm
Quoting Kuat
10 reasons why this thread is making money randomly 1) It has no edge. Classic or not, PVRSA or not, it is still 50-50 which means no edge (over the years..quite a long period of time) 2) Almost everyone who posted from beginning (that traded real accounts) had blowed up their account. For those that posted from page 2400 onwards, please read again and see who is left..Just see those evangelist, click on their profile and see their last few comments. 3) Real traders do not divulge the way to create the golden goose. 4) Those that cant trade, they...
Why are you mentioning "Traders Round Table" here in this context?

What are your experiences with them?
  • #72,108
  • May 22, 2014 10:46pm May 22, 2014 10:46pm
I have question I need explain for SonicR PVA indicator please
thank you all
  • #72,109
  • May 22, 2014 10:48pm May 22, 2014 10:48pm
[quote=Kuat;7487496]10 reasons why this thread is making money randomly .
It's best threat ! Don't be so aggresive !You can learn a lot here. the main thing is patience and strict follow to rules .
  • #72,110
  • May 22, 2014 10:58pm May 22, 2014 10:58pm
Quoting firas1980
I have question I need explain for SonicR PVA indicator please thank you all
you have all info at 1st post
  • #72,111
  • May 22, 2014 11:44pm May 22, 2014 11:44pm
To Kuat and other non-believers - this is my statement - the big jump up is a deposit I made, the move after that is thanks to ME trying to apply PVSRA and Sonic R that are a result of all the great guys developing the system. You can see it is a calm, continuous trend with no major swings up or down. And I've doubled my deposit
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  • #72,112
  • May 23, 2014 12:00am May 23, 2014 12:00am
Dear Sonikers/not,

I don't care I was banned, ignored, or neglected. Though TAH never appreciates my homework, I DON'T CARE. I like the philosophy of this system, SHARING IS CARING.
  • #72,113
  • May 23, 2014 12:12am May 23, 2014 12:12am
Hi. Could someone help me with this entry?

If the bars bouncing back up I can open a long when the price cross out of the dragon?
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  • #72,114
  • May 23, 2014 12:19am May 23, 2014 12:19am
GBPUSD ? I watching FO i LO.
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  • #72,115
  • May 23, 2014 12:33am May 23, 2014 12:33am
Quoting Elhemano1
Hi. Could someone help me with this entry? If the bars bouncing back up I can open a long when the price cross out of the dragon? {image}

Take a look at the weekly sentiment. big doji last week, following a bear to the downside. i'd say it's still bearish until we get bull confirmation
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Trading is Easy.. Controlling your emotions is the hard part.
  • #72,116
  • May 23, 2014 12:36am May 23, 2014 12:36am
Quoting FXRobert
GBPUSD ? I watching FO i LO. {image}

we found support at the lows of 68500 with no heavy orders ( weak volume). big doji on the weekly after the drop down to the support area. i think we are still bullish. whatever drop it had was a corrective wave 2 based on the 4h TF analysis
Trading is Easy.. Controlling your emotions is the hard part.
  • #72,117
  • May 23, 2014 12:58am May 23, 2014 12:58am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY: Based on PVSRA, I still am bearish. Today's PA involves a high volume push above the half number and back down, which is bearish. My short trade is still running and I have earlier added Scouts. to it.
I'm also now following those grizzlies.
  • #72,118
  • Edited 1:14am May 23, 2014 1:03am | Edited 1:14am
Quoting Elhemano1
Hi. Could someone help me with this entry? If the bars bouncing back up I can open a long when the price cross out of the dragon? {image}
NzdUsd

IMO,
H4 shows the price currently goes ranging after the "Run the Profit" phase started.
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H1 Trend & Dragon still down.
SO if you go long is more likely countering the trend.
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M15 Trend Flat, Dragon too close to trend like ranging and is still Asia Session.
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And notice that Price keeps creating "High" rather than "Low", comparing to theory "Buy Low, Sell High".
And quote from Tah
"There are times when in off hours trading (less activity = less competition for any created liquidity) the market corrupting Robber Bank MMs will manipulate prices to advantage their position building. If they are bulls they will seek liquidity for longs by drifting the price lower. If they are bears they will seek liquidity for shorts by drifting the price higher."

No one know's how price will move next. Time will tell.
Trade safe.
-AdrianC.
  • #72,119
  • May 23, 2014 1:07am May 23, 2014 1:07am
Quoting MManipulator
{quote} we found support at the lows of 68500 with no heavy orders ( weak volume). big doji on the weekly after the drop down to the support area. i think we are still bullish. whatever drop it had was a corrective wave 2 based on the 4h TF analysis
My scenario is still possible (big 5?)
Therefore I wait on FO and LO

Quoting FXRobert
{quote} loeil I think GBPUSD Begin nice move up. I keep my orders with SL. Tah and Sonic sorry for elliott wave {image}
  • #72,120
  • May 23, 2014 1:08am May 23, 2014 1:08am
Quoting AdrianC
{quote} NzdUsd IMO, H4 shows the price currently goes ranging after the "Run the Profit" phase started. {image} H1 Trend & Dragon still down. SO if you go long is more likely countering the trend. {image} {image} M15 Trend Flat, Dragon too close to trend and is still Asia Open. {image} And notice that Price keeps creating "High" rather than "Low", comparing to theory "Buy Low, Sell High". And quote from Tah "There are times when in off hours trading (less activity = less...

Thank you so much. I'm new to trading this system, but you just made me "smart" in your post. Thanks alot!
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