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  • #72,081
  • May 22, 2014 9:41am May 22, 2014 9:41am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} We do not pick tops and bottoms here. We do not believe that by the time we see the proper information (Classic setup) it is too late. Do you bother to think about anything here? Just look at the EU Classic trade I just posted. It is a perfect Classic. I entered and was quickly in profit. Price went down and then retraced - at which point I added a Scout - and I now have four entries all high enough for what is to come to be very profitable. What you say is not true. Scouts are not preferred except by those not understanding and not fully...
Thank you TAH for your help!

I see your EU classic entries, but on the higher timeframes (H4, D1) I don't see any hummer, doji or engulfing patterns ... so can we ignore it? I mean candle patterns. Thanks a lot.
  • #72,082
  • May 22, 2014 9:46am May 22, 2014 9:46am
Quoting Alehandro
{quote} Thank you TAH for your help! I see your EU classic entries, but on the higher timeframes (H4, D1) I don't see any hummer, doji or engulfing patterns ... so can we ignore it? I mean candle patterns. Thanks a lot.
Stuff like this was already answered in a response post of mine earlier today. I shouldn't even have to waste thread space making this response. You should, like responsible Sonicers do, keep up with your thread reading so such questions and their answers do not have to be repeated!

-tah
  • #72,083
  • May 22, 2014 10:00am May 22, 2014 10:00am
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate.



On a good day, I’m okay…
On a bad day, I’m okay too…
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  • #72,084
  • May 22, 2014 10:08am May 22, 2014 10:08am
Quoting FXRobert
GBPUSD clasic M15 long. I know about news therefore SL. TP not. SL set. {image}
it looked good.
Hit SL
After several minutes it was it is known that it was badly.
I should close, but the hope.
On the market it does not hope.

Dyekid217 goods the quick decision


Quoting Dyekid217
GU update: Only got out at BE but now I am short! It's very important to cover your trade before big news!
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  • #72,085
  • May 22, 2014 10:21am May 22, 2014 10:21am
Quoting john.xgg
{quote} I agree with you. And we(not only me) had different opinion on GJ yesterday. TAH short GJ yesterday but the price went up unfortunately. I wonder weather TAH still keep it or stop loss already.
GBPJPY:

Based on PVSRA, I still am bearish. Today's PA involves a high volume push above the half number and back down, which is bearish. My short trade is still running and I have earlier added Scouts. to it.
  • #72,086
  • May 22, 2014 10:24am May 22, 2014 10:24am
UJ, long scout entered after waiting for pullback from 23.6% retrace and bounce from the half number with dragon above EMA heading up. Quick scalp +7.5 standard. Closed after hitting target @ supply/resistance zone. May still run up to DR1 and above, but good for me got other things to do!

Regards,
Cigarguy
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  • #72,087
  • May 22, 2014 10:28am May 22, 2014 10:28am
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - more bullish than yesterday. M1 - price came exactly to the same support area for third time now, volume increasing. My longs are placed, now just waiting up move {image} {image}
Now is very interesing.
More volume at low and nice reaction bullish (green candle at my chart) - for me not signal but I watch for re-entry long.
Below half numer again.


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  • #72,088
  • May 22, 2014 10:37am May 22, 2014 10:37am
Quoting Gupito1508
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate. On a good day, I’m okay… On a bad day, I’m...
Gupito150,

For all Sonicers, I thank you for your pdf., "Sonic Experience Trading Journal". You selflessly gave your time to put this together to share with all of us in the hope it would encourage and help.

It is a great contribution to the thread. The only thing I wish you had also done was to explain in some detail Exhaustion gaps and Breakaway gaps, due to their importance and the possibility some readers will not be familiar with them,....and to show an example of each on charts included in your pdf. so readers can actually see what they might look like. If you ever revise this for re-posting, I do hope you will add this so that everything important mentioned in your pdf. is fully defined, explained and illustrated for the reader.

Thank You,
-tah
  • #72,089
  • May 22, 2014 10:38am May 22, 2014 10:38am
EUR/GBP: Classic setup

- Closed H4 candle engulfs previous 5 bars
- Entered at the break of the dragon by wave 3
- SL under swing low
- TP not defined
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  • #72,090
  • May 22, 2014 10:41am May 22, 2014 10:41am
Quoting Gupito1508
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate. On a good day, I’m okay… On a bad day, I’m...
Awesome. thank you!!
  • #72,091
  • May 22, 2014 10:44am May 22, 2014 10:44am
Quoting Gupito1508
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate. On a good day, I’m okay… On a bad day, I’m...
Gupito1508,

Good Job and thanks for the effort!

Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #72,092
  • May 22, 2014 10:45am May 22, 2014 10:45am
Quoting Gupito1508
Spirit of true Sonicers is share. Just because of that, I share one of my personal experience with sonic and PVSRA, with some example. Example that I learn from real-time market price. If, there are some words that not appropriated, I apologized, because English is not my native language. I decided to write my experience in pdf format mode, and tried to compress it with some graphical compromise, so it will easier to download, re – read, and learn from it again and again. Hope it helps mate. On a good day, I’m okay… On a bad day, I’m...
Well done, effort always pays
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
  • #72,093
  • May 22, 2014 11:03am May 22, 2014 11:03am
Quoting MosesNMY
Dear all in the reading, please comment on my trade, volume increasing at the low and buy interest coming in... let see.... {image}
EURUSD:

Well, we have Sonicers in both camps on this, some bullish, some bearish.

I am bearish. "Let the Dragon and PA show the way." Of course, PVSRA should support this. H4 is a down trend. H1 is a down trend. M15 is a down trend. Everything current enough to be relative is in a down trend. The kicker is this half number area, clearly visible on all these time frames as significant SR. I think the fact that PA is being kept above it is a PVSRA clue the MMs are building shorts. Until they are ready to whack the price, they are supporting it while ranging the price to create liquidity for them to amass short positions. At this time it is how I see it, anyway.

There is yet another USD high impact release tomorrow. It could be the MMs are biding their time and accumulating short orders until then. Or, maybe until next week. This is the part of trading we just cannot know. This is where patience serves better than knowledge.
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  • #72,094
  • May 22, 2014 11:35am May 22, 2014 11:35am
Comment On Robber Bank MMs.

What I am about to say is is not universally reliable. Much depends on the situation, involving PA, day of week, a variety of things. Keep this in mind.

There are times when in off hours trading (less activity = less competition for any created liquidity) the market corrupting Robber Bank MMs will manipulate prices to advantage their position building. If they are bulls they will seek liquidity for longs by drifting the price lower. If they are bears they will seek liquidity for shorts by drifting the price higher.

At the close of the LS EU was drifted higher, back above the half number. UCad was drifted lower, back below the whole number. Pricing does not have to remain there for those moves to have significance. Once liquidity is exhausted, price would naturally reverse, at least for awhile. This smells like USD strength is the bias of these Robber Bank MMs. So, they might be biding their time until the USD high impact release tomorrow, accumulating more to add to their positions until then. If so, EU will be whacked and UCad will be whipped, tomorrow or maybe next week.

Edit: On UCad now, the MMs are truely whacking the price - in off hours and with volume increasing as the price drops! With all this happening below the whole number we have a good PVSRA indication now that these market corrupting Robber Bank MMs are bulls on UCad. They are manipulating the price lower to create liquidity for longing, by triggering pending short orders, by sucking in live shorters, and by hitting stops on longs. And they are doing this now because they get the lion's share of whatever liquidity there is for filling long orders, since few traders other than themselves are still active.
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  • #72,095
  • Edited 12:21pm May 22, 2014 11:41am | Edited 12:21pm
Some days ago I was talking to an experimented trader (by email) who I met in another forum about how manipulated the market is. He told me that he have access to weekly reports in which we can see trades opened by professional traders (longs and shorts), that is, Market Makers (MMs). It appears that these entities write down their actions. I sent him a message asking if he can share these reports with me, but I haven't recieved an answer yet. The point is that MMs (CitiBank, DeustchBank, etc.) are not as discrete as we thought. We have to investigate and find out where we can get these reports. Anyway, I'm not very sure I'll have an answer from him; maybe he doesn't want to share this kind of information, which may be understandable. That's why we have to find them.
  • #72,096
  • May 22, 2014 11:42am May 22, 2014 11:42am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Gupito150, For all Sonicers, I thank you for your pdf., "Sonic Experience Trading Journal". You selflessly gave your time to put this together to share with all of us in the hope it would encourage and help. It is a great contribution to the thread. The only thing I wish you had also done was to explain in some detail Exhaustion gaps and Breakaway gaps, due to their importance and the possibility some readers will not be familiar with them,....and to show an example of each on charts included in your pdf. so readers can actually...
Yes, maybe I got to explain about exhaustion and breakaway. I’ll revise it later. Actually, many struggle with the same problem sir. Just because of it, I share, to make their life in dog eat dog market easier. Scout is okay without classic form at first (on my opinion), as far as they see weakness (exhaustion) and know where is the risk and limitation of their account, scout is okay. If not, then proper classic. Classic without see exhaustion or weakness? It’s the same with betting. Then PVSRA in deeper understanding is needed. While other indicator and analysis fall, PVSRA not. I often heard it from my mentor on my office, Trade with the tick, not against it, don’t be a hero. PVSRA based on tick count, so, it complies and fulfills this wise advice from my mentor. That’s why I share.
Anyway, thank you sir, and for sonic deejay to share this beautiful Sonic system.

regards,
Gupito Poernawan

On a good day, I'm okay...
On a bad day, I'm okay too...
It's all started from page one
  • #72,097
  • May 22, 2014 2:52pm May 22, 2014 2:52pm
I remember a month or two ago allison came on here and posted a wonderfull message saying they had made peace with TAH and were now understanding and fully learning this system, so what happened? you give up and run that easy? good luck #scumbagpeople
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  • #72,098
  • May 22, 2014 3:46pm May 22, 2014 3:46pm
Quoting traderathome
They are manipulating the price lower to create liquidity for longing, by triggering pending short orders, by sucking in live shorters, and by hitting stops on longs. And they are doing this now because they get the lion's share of whatever liquidity there is for filling long orders, since few traders other than themselves are still active. {image}
Tah, thank you for the insight, im not sure if stop hunting would occur in such a small price area, it looks significant on m5 but on h1 price is barely breaking yesterdays lows. The results from news events around that time im sure play a part in where mm's and traders place their positions. Im trying to think along your rationale, so as you said for eurusd, the mm's are accumulating short positions, i dont know how to comprehend this, as there is always equal buyers and sellers, fx price for a pair is relative to its worth based on various fundamentals and then of course supply demand. What im having a hard time understanding is at the current eurusd price level, how can more sellers be accumulating shorts, there would need to be a would be buyer and if not price will fall lower until buyers present a strong enough bid volume to equal sellers.
  • #72,099
  • May 22, 2014 4:00pm May 22, 2014 4:00pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} It could be the MMs are biding their time and accumulating short orders until then. Or, maybe until next week. This is the part of trading we just cannot know. This is where patience serves better than knowledge. {image}
'they are supporting it while ranging the price to create liquidity for them to amass short positions.'

Okay thats a neat statement, so mm's keen on driving the price down will allow traders such as myself to start buying, so they will take the other end, big question is how do they whack the price down? by offering to sell large volumes at lower levels? and then continue this onslaught until the bulls give in and then bam the stops start getting hit and then we have a price drop / spike
  • #72,100
  • May 22, 2014 6:28pm May 22, 2014 6:28pm
Quoting Verve
{quote} 'they are supporting it while ranging the price to create liquidity for them to amass short positions.' Okay thats a neat statement, so mm's keen on driving the price down will allow traders such as myself to start buying, so they will take the other end, big question is how do they whack the price down? by offering to sell large volumes at lower levels? and then continue this onslaught until the bulls give in and then bam the stops start getting hit and then we have a price drop / spike
maybe hit and run? Spike to top then going down
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